longstebe Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 With all the unrest with the red shirts etc....if a coup were to happen could this have an effect on my savings accounts here in Thailand? What happened last time after Thaksin, did people lose any money? Or is it purely down to a financial crisis, something like we seen in the west a few years back? Sent from my GT-I9505 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredfish Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Thailand economy is about to crash Find safer pptions Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longstebe Posted April 17, 2014 Author Share Posted April 17, 2014 Thailand economy is about to crash Find safer pptions Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Are you suggesting I take all my money out in cash or transfer it overseas? Is there a safe limit of savings were one would not be effected if the economy were "to crash"? Sent from my GT-I9505 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 No. Nothing. No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soutpeel Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Thailand economy is about to crash Find safer pptions Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand And what are we basing this in depth analysis on ?...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ezzra Posted April 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 18, 2014 Non of the last 19 coupes effected saving before, so no reason the next one will... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiang mai Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 (edited) The OP need not worry about the safety of banks here. anyway, bank accounts are insured by the BOT up to THB 50 million per person. Edited April 18, 2014 by chiang mai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longstebe Posted April 18, 2014 Author Share Posted April 18, 2014 Thanks for the replies guys. Sent from my GT-I9505 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PattayaPhom Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 The OP need not worry about the safety of banks here. anyway, bank accounts are insured by the BOT up to THB 50 million per person. I thought it wasTHB1Million... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiang mai Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 The OP need not worry about the safety of banks here. anyway, bank accounts are insured by the BOT up to THB 50 million per person. I thought it wasTHB1Million... Coverage of insured deposits The Coverage of insured deposits according to The Royal Decree on an extension of deposit coverage, is as follows: Period Coverage 11 Aug 2012 – 10 Aug 2015 Baht 50 million 11 Aug 2015 – 10 Aug 2016 Baht 25 million 11 Aug 2016 – Onwards Baht 1 million 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longstebe Posted April 18, 2014 Author Share Posted April 18, 2014 By looking at them figures I can say I'm safe by a long a way :-) Does that include all thai banks or just the government ones? Sent from my GT-I9505 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiang mai Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 All banks holding a retail banking license in Thailand, including all foreign banks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longstebe Posted April 18, 2014 Author Share Posted April 18, 2014 All banks holding a retail banking license in Thailand, including all foreign banks. Ta matey. Sent from my GT-I9505 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triffid Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 The OP need not worry about the safety of banks here. anyway, bank accounts are insured by the BOT up to THB 50 million per person. I thought it wasTHB1Million... Coverage of insured deposits The Coverage of insured deposits according to The Royal Decree on an extension of deposit coverage, is as follows: Period Coverage 11 Aug 2012 – 10 Aug 2015 Baht 50 million 11 Aug 2015 – 10 Aug 2016 Baht 25 million 11 Aug 2016 – Onwards Baht 1 million Can you explain how the above time periods/limits work? Is tis to do with time deposits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiang mai Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 No, between August 2012 and 2015, every account holder, regardless of the type of savings/deposit account, is insured up to the value of their accounts or to a maximum of THB 50 mill,. Between 2015 and 2016 the insured amount of coverage is reduced to 25 million and so on. Nothing really to do with just time deposits, it's applies to all account types. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 (edited) It means the government's deposit protection insurance coverage amounts -- which only protect against the financial failure of a bank, not any other monkey business -- are slated to be gradually be lowered to the amounts specified above, on the dates listed. So the coverage amount is high right now, but it's going to get considerably lower in the coming couple years. Actually, the coverage amount had previously been set to fall to 1 million by now, but then the government pushed back the reduction timeline. Hard to say whether the same re-scheduling thing might happen again in the future. But ultimately, if they stick to their schedule this time, a 1 million baht cap starting in 2016 isn't much in the way of protection. Edited April 18, 2014 by TallGuyJohninBKK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tetleythedog Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Thailand economy is about to crashFind safer pptionsSent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand After Thaksin don't know ................DURING loads of people lost a lot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiang mai Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 My guess is that a 1 million Baht cap will provide coverage for 99% of accounts, a million baht in savings is a lot of money for most Thai people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiang mai Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 <script type='text/javascript'>window.mod_pagespeed_start = Number(new Date());</script> Thailand economy is about to crash Find safer pptions Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand After Thaksin don't know ................DURING loads of people lost a lot! Do enlighten us all please, give us some details! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suradit69 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 (edited) Probably better to worry about exogenous events that might affect your savings rather than what could effect them. http://blog.oxforddictionaries.com/2011/03/affect-versus-effect/ And presumably the main worry with a coup would be with regard to exchange rates and price inflation , neither of which would be covered by having deposit insurance, as opposed to theft of funds or collapse of banks, which would be covered by insurance. But in Thailand coups tend to be treated with yawns, at least domestically. Of course, on Thai Visa any event (whether real or, more often, imagined) can be cause for mass hysteria, Edited April 18, 2014 by Suradit69 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunPer Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 What may happen in the future is difficult to predict – financial bubble, military coup, meltdown… – however last time in 2006 nothing happened to ordinary peoples savings or funds. I am not worried about my savings in Thailand... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globeman Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 By looking at them figures I can say I'm safe by a long a way :-) Does that include all thai banks or just the government ones? Sent from my GT-I9505 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app Well yeah, but a "guarantee" is one thing, and getting the money is another. But it seems you are concerned that a military coup means they behave like the Khmer Rouge or something. Traditionally, they just take over as government - that's it. Life otherwise goes on as normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 And presumably the main worry with a coup would be with regard to exchange rates and price inflation , neither of which would be covered by having deposit insurance, as opposed to theft of funds or collapse of banks, which would be covered by insurance. Theft of funds, whether by criminals outside or inside a Thai bank, isn't covered by the government's deposit protection scheme. The deposit protection only covers if the bank itself entirely fails and basically goes out of business. So the theft issue wouldn't apply unless the theft was so massive that it caused the total failure of the bank, which would be pretty unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Globeman Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 My guess is that a 1 million Baht cap will provide coverage for 99% of accounts, a million baht in savings is a lot of money for most Thai people. And you reckon they've got that kind of cash lying around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post carter1882 Posted April 18, 2014 Popular Post Share Posted April 18, 2014 I would have thought that in the current situation a military coup would actually increase stability rather than the opposite. I wouldn't be in the least surprised to see, after a small dip when the worry mongers react, to seeing a slightly stronger baht. Confidence in the local economy will increase also as investors like to see someone in charge no matter who they are. Incidentally, while the baht has lost value vis a vis the dollar and pound over the last year that is due to strengthening and confidence in their much larger economies rather than weakness here. Whilst living in Thailand one is apt to think that this is the centre of the world it is just not the case. By way of comparison the situation in Ukraine could have a far greater impact on international monetary affairs. So far the general consensus is that the big powers just cannot afford to confront Russia in this matter. If that were to shift I would expect to see a rise in Asian currencies in general and the baht. However, the main impact on rising tensions in Europe could ultimately be the price of gold. So far the price of gold is still falling and could well get much lower (today at 19,800 baht per baht weight down from around 28,000 post 2008 economic meltdown) due to economic matters in faraway places like Cyprus. Big shifts in world security will see the price of gold rocket. In summary Thailand is a fairly safe place to have savings and the OP does not need to worry about a military coup. After all the biggest effect in recent years was certain people selling certain mortgages in the USA culminating in the financial crash of 2008. But as in all things, diversification of financial holdings is safest. So if the worst came to the worst and the civil unrest in Thailand developed into a civil war then it will be time to shift some cash holdings from banks into property as the property market here will drop like a stone and the investment opportunities will be extraordinary. Buy gold if things in Europe take a turn for the worse, buy property if things in Thailand get worse, keep money in the bank in Thailand at 3.5% fixed if you want to play reasonably safe! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAlanL1275 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Your money is safely kept with the rice pledging money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiang mai Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 My guess is that a 1 million Baht cap will provide coverage for 99% of accounts, a million baht in savings is a lot of money for most Thai people. And you reckon they've got that kind of cash lying around? Yes, plus their credit line is more than sound: http://www2.bot.or.th/statistics/BOTWEBSTAT.aspx?reportID=94&language=ENG But let's be clear, not all banks would fail at the same time, even in a worst case scenario. The above presumes that a single major bank failed, in which case the deposit protection scheme is more than capable. But perhaps you should look into the levels of capitalization of some of the banks in Thailand, it's very reassuring, which is why BOT can afford to extend the deposit protection scheme for 50 million per account, until 2015.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggt Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Only if the military sets up checkpoints to collet "tea money"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captspectre Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Thailand economy is about to crash Find safer pptions Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Thailand Are you suggesting I take all my money out in cash or transfer it overseas? Is there a safe limit of savings were one would not be effected if the economy were "to crash"? Sent from my GT-I9505 using Thaivisa Connect Thailand mobile app when you find out let me know. never keep more money in Thailand than you can afford to lose! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
how241 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Non of the last 19 coupes effected saving before, so no reason the next one will... +1...These coupes doesn't seem to involve the banking system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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