In love with thai girl married to thai man

belg · April 25, 2014

the thai guy thinks he invested a lot of time & money of this girl and wants compensation to take over the LEASE he tought he had for life when he paid sin son

he is not entitled to anything, but hey, this is thailand, so he just askes some compensation in return for the privilage of getting the cow, that gave him the milk

belg · April 25, 2014

Mate from one Aussie to another. Here is one reality about Thailand that isn't aimed at successful relationships but is applicable to yours.

Thai woman will stay with farang men for money. How else does a 60 year old man have a girlfriend 20-30 years his junior? In the western world and especially OZ, we call then Gold Diggers. Truly if it wasn't for this fact, they would stay with Thai men and live happily ever after. On your visits to Thailand, do you ever see local Thai men hanging around in the same bars where farang are drinking and socialising with them? Easy answer. NO. Why? They don't have the money. Many bar girls have Thai partners already whilst they sit holding your hand, and being attentive. Many will have two or three farang boyfriends who will never meet each other. Why? One comes to Thailand in January, the other in June and the last in October and all of them are oblivious to each other but all think there the only one whilst financially sending money to her thinking he is making her life better. They are making hers ultimately better and her Thai partners if she has one. It's a scam that when your new to Thailand is easily achievable by a girl who has had a hardened life here. Be sweet and nice and create the allusion that somehow their better partners than western woman.

Think about it. If you were a bar girl and the only way to make money was to literally go with 100's of different men and sell your body, wouldn't you become hardened? Don't forget, Thailand attracts some of the worse sexual predators known to man because sex here is so readily available and cheap and they don't do criminal record checks when you arrive at the airport and pass customs. You can't honestly expect that all these men have been respectful and treated them nicely. Some may welcome the release from this work by finding a "Good Man" but the reality is that some will plot revenge with a developed hatred for men of all nationalities. Thus the scams.

Finally. There are a lot of Thai men who motivate their Thai partners into such scams. Here is one reason why. Right now the Aussie dollar commands 30 Baht to the dollar. So you can sit in a bar, restaurant etc, eat and drink, bar fine a girl and then pay her for a short or long time. This could cost you on a good night if your on holiday may be something like 3000 Baht. More for some or less but here's the point. Most Thai guys earn between 2500-4000 Baht a month. Your spending their months salary in one night. That's why there is Thai woman in the bars and not men. That's why the girls hang around and they don't. The harsh reality is, a lot of Thai men tolerate us, not welcome us. Thai men are known for not wanting to loose face. Don't you think you are out showing them by flashing your cash and having sex with there woman? Here we are having sex every night if we want and he hasn't had any in months because he's got no money. Thailand is a sex haven for foreigners. Not the Thai men. Please. Do the math.

Thailand is not a place to wear rose coloured glasses. Read the other posts, stop and think. It can be a great place with some knowledge or a dangerous place without. Thailand is nothing like Australia and to confuse the two will bring you undone.

Sorry to be so blunt but get to know the lay of the land before you start diving into something that you could ultimately regret.

Good luck.

how long are you in thailand?

thai men get to get these girls when they are really young, promise them the world... they fuck them, impregnate them, leave them, over & done

thai men do not take responsability for getting a girl pregnant or not

they move to the next

these girls, leave their baby with their mother and go find work... as what you think .... as the hookers you find in the bars, as she has no education or no future ...

so thai men screw those girls first and what you get is the trash ...

broken girls, ready to take revenge, ready to take your money, promise you the world, tell you so handsome man, same same as the thai men did with them

if lucky, they make your head spin, you marry them, let them build houses, buy cars ... mission complete... time for you to go and time for the next farang with too much cash to spend

tekNique · April 25, 2014

[6:23:45 PM] me: hello
[6:27:42 PM] her: ka
[6:27:57 PM] me: is it safe to chat?
[6:28:34 PM] her: ka
[6:29:28 PM] me: I sent the 20,000 baht yesterday I checked my account today and it has been sent, so you will get on 3-5 days not sure how long it will take
[6:30:04 PM] her: ka thank you mak na
[6:30:44 PM] me: you will use to rent aparment? If you do I can send you money every 2 weeks or something for rent food and living.
[6:30:55 PM] her: NAME ought do visa now mai
[6:31:15 PM] me: I think passport first

[6:33:07 PM] her: now I have money 13000 he refund
[6:33:33 PM] me: do you have the broken iphone? it maybe able to be repaired
[6:34:48 PM] her: yes I have but it broken mak
[6:34:57 PM] me: okay keep it
[6:35:25 PM] me: I miss you alot
[6:35:37 PM] me: I was very happy when we were together
[6:35:54 PM] her: her name fear mak paul
[6:36:01 PM] me: what you fear
[6:36:03 PM] me: tell me
[6:36:10 PM] her: he like crazy
[6:36:30 PM] me: he angry you or me
[6:36:53 PM] me: I take care of okay
[6:37:00 PM] me: care of you okay
[6:37:14 PM] me: I only want you happy
[6:37:15 PM] her: you but her name Not do as he wants
[6:38:05 PM] me: I can help as I can
[6:38:11 PM] me: and as you ask
[6:38:31 PM] her: you can help me ?
[6:38:35 PM] her: like?
[6:38:39 PM] me: I orry deeply for you
[6:38:43 PM] me: worry*
[6:38:46 PM] her: you are Aus
[6:39:37 PM] me: well I can pay apartment and give you money for live till we togther, as I said I help as much as I can and as you ask.
[6:39:55 PM] me: I try my best but is hard for both of us.
[6:41:16 PM] her: I sorry for everything , I am all problem
[6:41:55 PM] me: I love you and for this you are no problem to me only someone I care deeply about.
[6:42:24 PM] me: But these were my fears when I left thailand
[6:42:35 PM] me: I fear I will never see you again
[6:43:09 PM] me: because it will become to hard for you
[6:43:50 PM] me: I promised that I would never give up on you and I will not unless you request I do.....it is my honour.
[6:44:52 PM] me:
[6:45:54 PM] me: you okay?
[6:46:03 PM] her: I confused
[6:46:12 PM] her: no know will do?
[6:46:37 PM] her: like Alone
[6:46:56 PM] me: Do you still love your ex?
[6:47:11 PM] her: no ka
[6:47:19 PM] her: but her name fear
[6:47:53 PM] her: her name must do must bear
[6:48:38 PM] her: because family her name dont have hlep me
[6:48:50 PM] me: I would always be there for you till we are together but I understand your fears
[6:49:00 PM] me: I would always help till day we together
[6:49:29 PM] me: I confused as well and hurt
[6:50:09 PM] her: hurt?
[6:50:20 PM] me: I hurt for your pain
[6:50:40 PM] her: ka
[6:51:55 PM] her: her name will wait but no know will can do did like think or no
[6:52:08 PM] me: If you want to have life with me I will do everything to protect and take care of you because I want life with you
[6:52:31 PM] me: [6:51 PM] her:

<<< her name will wait but no know will can do did like think or noIn what way?
[6:53:38 PM] her: no know will explain? you will understand
[6:53:48 PM] me: yes
[6:54:28 PM] her: her name will learn English language more
[6:54:41 PM] her: her name want say with you
[6:54:53 PM] me: its okay we talked good when together
[6:55:11 PM] me: I want to ask serious question
[6:55:31 PM] me: Do you want life with me or do you fear it is to hard?
[6:56:02 PM] me: because I will walk the hard road to be with you
[6:58:10 PM] her: I want you but no understand you say " I will walk the hard road to be"
[6:58:32 PM] Me: it mean I will do what it takes to be with you as I love you
[6:58:36 PM] her: I want life with you
[6:58:44 PM] me: and I will do anything that is needed
[6:58:56 PM] me: I want life with you
[7:00:07 PM] me: I want you to know if you get the aparment I will be to support you and provide everything as needed
[7:00:11 PM] me: money ect
[7:00:17 PM] me: till get visa
[7:01:07 PM] me: I want you to know that you can trust and depend on me because I will never give up on you as I promised
[7:01:43 PM] me: I fear that you will feel it is too hard and give up
[7:01:53 PM] me: and stay home
[7:04:50 PM] her: it hard mak ka paul because if her name out from home her name will
nobody
[7:05:16 PM] her: but her name will do
[7:05:42 PM] her: because her name trusting you
[7:05:49 PM] me: it wont be long nobody I will be with you soon, you will have friends still as well
[7:06:07 PM] me: but I know you you fear, but you can trust in me %100
[7:06:52 PM] me: I would not pursue us be together if I did not love you
[7:07:02 PM] me: I dont think you happy to stay home either
[7:07:33 PM] me: I can get lawyer to contest divorce I have been reading thai marriage laws regarding grounds for divorce
[7:08:19 PM] me: I pay for lawyers to serve your ex divorce papers and give you rights to your children rather than give syrian money
[7:10:20 PM] me: An uncontested divorce cost nothing more than a few hundred baht if done at the amphur and is done in 20 minutes. So your ex's claim of 30,000 Us dollar is outrageous and nothing more than a blackmail.
[7:11:20 PM] me: Can I ask how much sin sot he put up when you married?
[7:11:42 PM] her: and you will can Tech care baby me?
[7:11:49 PM] me: yes
[7:12:22 PM] me: how much sin sot did he put up when marry do you know
[7:12:34 PM] me: I know thai marriage more than some may think
[7:13:04 PM] her: [7:12 PM] me:

<<< how much sin sot did he put up when marry do you know
[7:13:11 PM] her: her name no understand
[7:13:59 PM] me: sinsod
[7:14:02 PM] me: you know
[7:14:34 PM] her: yes
[7:14:40 PM] me: money put up by your husband that went to your mum when marry
[7:16:01 PM] her: money 2000000 and gold 10 baht
[7:16:58 PM] me: 60,000 us dollars?
[7:17:45 PM] me: 2 million baht
[7:18:14 PM] me: 2 million baht?
[7:19:06 PM] me: That is a very high sinsod from what I have seen
[7:19:45 PM] me: ?>
[7:19:59 PM] me: gold 10 baht went to you yes?
[7:21:30 PM] her: KA
[7:21:57 PM] me: did your mum keep all or was most for show/face
[7:22:17 PM] me: is okay I know of this tradition
[7:23:38 PM] her: mum me did all ka
[7:24:00 PM] me: well no wonder she dosent want you to divorce with your ex
[7:24:27 PM] her: yes ka
[7:24:55 PM] me: 2 million baht is a large amout of money, and now I understand why your ex wants me to pay him
[7:25:03 PM] her: her name tired and no know will tell you?
[7:25:09 PM] me: I was going to suggest to pay him sinsod back
[7:25:25 PM] me: tell me what
[7:26:20 PM] her: he no want money but want her name
[7:27:12 PM] me: well this is choice for you I want you too, and I will take care of you.
[7:27:34 PM] me: I said I will and I only care your happiness, you must choose what makes you happy
[7:28:33 PM] me: can we video I want to see you?
[7:30:03 PM] me: I only talk serious because we must, I try to understand everything that is nessecery
[7:30:18 PM] her: I Choose You

[7:30:35 PM] me: kup
[7:30:40 PM] her:
[7:30:41 PM] me: and I will provide
[7:30:53 PM] her: But he will not stop

[7:32:37 PM] her: he break phone and buy new phoen he break money and give money he for me
[7:33:14 PM] her: but he tell that if you love me you will must have more he
[7:33:44 PM] me: He is wealthy
does he earn more than 2 million baht a year beacuse that is about what I make in Asutralian dollar a year
[7:34:08 PM] her: which I understand you and no want you pay for me
[7:34:22 PM] me: I am about 2 million baht a year in austrlian dollar
[7:34:46 PM] me: maybe I cant compete with his money iam unsure how much he have
[7:34:47 PM] her: but we can go Aus her name not divorce dai mai
[7:34:54 PM] me: chi
[7:36:30 PM] me: who at your work now?
[7:36:56 PM] me: Your husband owns business kup yes?
[7:37:33 PM] her: here he open for me
[7:37:46 PM] me: he own many?
[7:38:09 PM] her: yes
[7:38:23 PM] her: I dont want you know
[7:38:28 PM] her: why you ask
[7:38:50 PM] her: just you know that love you
[7:39:14 PM] her: I dont want you worry about money
[7:40:22 PM] me: because I need to know and I understand that I may not be as wealthy as him but I would provide better for you
[7:41:05 PM] me: sorry I went toilet
[7:41:14 PM] me: know that I love you too
[7:41:31 PM] me: and that I work harder to grow more now I back home
[7:43:56 PM] me: yoy okay I just need to know, I not give up on you I love you mak. I want to hug you again
[7:46:20 PM] me: busy mai?
[7:47:46 PM] her: ok
[7:49:46 PM] me: Im sorry I had to ask serious question, but iam serious about us have life toghether so needed to know. I know you do not want to talk about but is nessecery
[7:49:54 PM] me: I hope you not upset
[7:50:15 PM] me: kup
[7:51:09 PM] her: her name understand
[7:51:15 PM] her: but her name care you
[7:51:58 PM] her: her name never say that he have money mak
[7:51:58 PM] me: I know and I care you so much but I needed to know how I up against. and know that I give you a better life
[7:52:10 PM] her: her name never want
[7:53:01 PM] her: but he tell her name if you pay he will release her name go
[7:53:51 PM] her: but now her name no want her name know we are can Aus by no need
divorce
[7:54:25 PM] me: chi yes we can dont need divorce
[7:54:57 PM] me: but I want to marry you in future so maybe I have to talk with him direct and negociate some payment.
[7:55:18 PM] me: negotiate*
[7:56:06 PM] her: but if her name go if hard will come back again
[7:56:39 PM] me: never hard I will always take care of you I promise, you are my heart
[7:56:51 PM] her: I work one moment
[7:56:53 PM] her: sorry
[7:56:54 PM] me: I will always provide
[8:05:29 PM] her: ka
[8:05:46 PM] me: hello
[8:05:59 PM] her: you don't say with he now na
[8:06:08 PM] me: yes you work you said
[8:06:23 PM] me: YOu have to go?
[8:06:36 PM] her: he not listen you I think
[8:07:14 PM] me: well at some point in the future I may nave to talk with him.
[8:07:18 PM] me: you think?
[8:08:04 PM] me: have*
[8:08:09 PM] her: I think he will listen to everything.

[8:08:30 PM] her: Because he try committed suicide

[8:08:44 PM] her: When I

[8:09:02 PM] her: I knew he would not be simple.

[8:09:23 PM] me: but he okay now yes?
[8:09:35 PM] me: I know man
[8:10:02 PM] me: he do to get attention from you if really wanted he would not live
[8:10:18 PM] me: if what I say make sense
[8:10:49 PM] me: Iam man and know same feelings
[8:13:29 PM] me: her name
[8:13:37 PM] her: ka
[8:13:39 PM] me: can I video you I want to see you
[8:13:46 PM] me: is safe to do?
[8:13:54 PM] me: if not I understand
[8:14:27 PM] her: like yesterday ok
[8:14:35 PM] me: no see me?
[8:14:40 PM] her: yes
[8:14:48 PM] her: mum see me
[8:14:57 PM] her: I want see you na
[8:15:01 PM] her: miss you mak
[8:15:02 PM] me: okay I send you video of me in email tomorrow okay
[8:15:24 PM] her: ka
[8:15:37 PM] her: I happy will see you
[8:15:48 PM] me: okay i call you I unplug webacam one moment
[8:16:11 PM] *** Call to her, no answer. ***
[8:17:24 PM] me: mai dee?
[8:17:39 PM] me: I dont want to get you in trouble I understand
[8:21:13 PM] me: sorry if I cause problem
[8:21:26 PM] me: I understand is okay
[8:21:36 PM] her: sorry wifi I have problem
[8:21:50 PM] her: now ok
[8:21:54 PM] me: okay I will call you with my webcam off okay?
[8:22:04 PM] her: I want you see me
[8:22:13 PM] me: you hide skype box when need i underdtand
[8:22:23 PM] *** Call to her ***

Video chat most fluff and being happy.

[10:28:43 PM] me: [10:27 PM] her:

<<< but I worry just I dont want who

dead because her name

[10:28:53 PM] her: no you

[10:28:53 PM] me: who dead?

[10:29:06 PM] me: I think no

[10:29:14 PM] me: he money to much to dead

[10:29:29 PM] her: but I see

[10:29:35 PM] me: he not stupid like this

[10:29:43 PM] me: otherwise would already happen

[10:29:51 PM] me: only attention

[10:29:59 PM] me: seek

[10:30:14 PM] me: I know you worry

[10:30:17 PM] her: he eat Paracetamol 23

[10:30:38 PM] me: I know you worry

[10:30:57 PM] me: why he eat? to make you love him?

[10:31:39 PM] me: is the way for man to make woman love? I think treat well and good life is way

[10:32:38 PM] her: ka I hope but now I see

[10:32:51 PM] me: okay I know is not easy'

[10:32:54 PM] her: he do real

[10:33:38 PM] me: all i ask is if you choose him you must tell me okay, so i can continue life...I not try and kill myself.

[10:33:41 PM] her: her name love you and dont go back with he

[10:34:43 PM] me: I sorry for he as well as I have heart, but im sure he can find new love. A loveless marriage is not a happy one kup

[10:34:58 PM] me: if I make sense

[10:35:49 PM] me: people sometime no longer love and we have accept this is part of life

[10:36:08 PM] me: threating suicide is not a solution

[10:36:14 PM] me: kup

[10:36:24 PM] me: I am wise to this

[10:36:28 PM] me: I have lived

[10:37:04 PM] me: you still love your kids mak and I know this

[10:37:31 PM] me: okay I understand everything

[10:37:56 PM] me: please I dont want you hurt

[10:38:15 PM] me: I know this is tough

[10:38:17 PM] me: mak

[10:38:44 PM] her: I no have happy with he Longer but her name no know will do?

[10:39:20 PM] me: I take care of you and you come austrlia, and we have future this is what i want.

[10:39:41 PM] me: I know you worry

[10:39:50 PM] me: I only care your happiness

[10:40:19 PM] me: if you choose not I understand as I only care you

[10:40:37 PM] me: Iam grown man and now lifes ups and downs

[10:41:11 PM] me: we talk more but as I said Iam here to support you 100%

[10:41:54 PM] me: okay what ever your choice I support, I want to be with you and give you good happy life is my dream

[10:42:28 PM] me: I like it more when we happy and laughing but I know we must be serious sometimes

[10:42:45 PM] her: ok

[10:42:47 PM] her: sorry

[10:42:57 PM] me: no sorry this life and I know

[10:43:12 PM] her: I stop sad now

[10:43:16 PM] her: I happy

[10:43:20 PM] me: is okay I understand

[10:43:47 PM] me: just know that I am the one who will help you as you wish to make happy life okay

[10:44:57 PM] her: We live together 7 year I dont want break intolerable

[10:45:31 PM] her: but I cant us life with he because I love you

[10:45:43 PM] her: I have new love with you

[10:46:24 PM] me: you are my love too, and I feel it is detiny to know you as I have said before

[10:46:51 PM] me: its is hard for a young marriage to last a life time rare even

[10:46:57 PM] me: destiny*

[10:47:43 PM] me: all I ask is if you feel you must stay with ex you tell me so I can repair heart and move on.

[10:48:17 PM] me: but I want life with you and I promise we can have happy life, but will take time

[10:48:24 PM] me: as not easy for us

[10:48:33 PM] me: kup

[10:48:48 PM] her: ka

[10:48:59 PM] her: you okey

[10:49:35 PM] me: im good Im sad too nit noi as is hard for us, but I not give up

[10:49:55 PM] her: if I will must go no chi because love you but because something

[10:50:09 PM] her: I wont you know I love you

[10:50:21 PM] me: all I ask is honesty nothing else

[10:50:34 PM] her: and I will love not forget

[10:50:46 PM] me: I think I know you will not leave him

[10:50:59 PM] me: I think I know you want to but fear to much

[10:51:26 PM] me: I will love you forever too

[10:52:19 PM] her: I think I will do for we

The best

[10:52:32 PM] her: see you tomorrow

[10:52:38 PM] her: I must go now

[10:52:43 PM] her: I love you

[10:52:44 PM] me: you think more okay

[10:53:00 PM] me: follow your heart

[10:53:30 PM] me: just be true to me how you feel because Iam true to you in what I promise

[10:53:31 PM] her: heart her name is you

[10:53:43 PM] me: I know you fear

[10:53:58 PM] me: is okay we talk another time okay goodnight love you

[10:54:20 PM] her: bye ka

[10:54:33 PM] her: good night

[10:54:41 PM] me: okay bye

[10:54:43 PM] me: kiss

[10:54:47 PM] her: kiss

[10:54:49 PM] *** Call ended, duration 2:32:26 ***

[10:55:00 PM] me: sweet dreams

[10:55:08 PM] her: sweet dreams

[10:55:12 PM] her: kiss kiss

[10:55:16 PM] me: love you

Ive translated some thai and didn't post the video section, this last night chat. Ive also change parts where as thai people do they type "there name instead of I, I changed this to (her name)"

This morning she email me saying her husband wants to talk with me. To be honest this is starting to get to stressful for me scam or no scam and after thinking last night I was going to suggest to her that she stay home for a month and we'll revaluate after. even if I do get an apartment for he rshe would probably be denied a visa to come to Aus anyway cause her work is tied in with her husband, so she wouldn't fit the requirments for "something to return to" I grow tired of this but do love her but it all seems to hard now after thinking for a few days. I do feel bad for being with a married woman but she shouldn't of presented herself on a dating website.

Edited April 25, 2014 by tekNique

brewsterbudgen · April 25, 2014

Don't send any money to the "husband". If you're serious about her, get yourself over to Thailand. Otherwise it's just a game.

tekNique · April 25, 2014

I just came back from Thailand on Tuesday morning, I cant head back for awhile I have responsibilities here. To be honest all the advice and stress makes me just want to get out of this. I don't want to break her heart though and my promises but it has become more than I can handle. If there is a next time I look on a dating site single or divorced is the only ones I pursue.

brewsterbudgen · April 25, 2014

I just came back from Thailand on Tuesday morning, I cant head back for awhile I have responsibilities here. To be honest all the advice and stress makes me just want to get out of this. I don't want to break her heart though and my promises but it has become more than I can handle. If there is a next time I look on a dating site single or divorced is the only ones I pursue.

I think that would be wise. It's unfair to give her false expectations.

belg · April 25, 2014

so now that girl suddenly has CHILDREN ???

i guess this is another guy writing a book, like the precious big page troller we had a few weeks ago

tekNique · April 25, 2014

Not suddenly always did, 2 kids.

TheRascal · April 25, 2014

Not suddenly always did, 2 kids.

Think for a second this isn't a scam. You're seriously considering taking on a woman with 2 kids by this guy... you'll never be rid of him, he will ALWAYS be part of her life. My guess is that even if it's not a scam you will spend a load and push come to shove she won't leave him due to family pressure. Family here is more important than anything to most of these girls.

H1w4yR1da · April 25, 2014

wow, he really still does not get it

I think this is a symptom of a condition known as "pussy-whipped"!

I had a similar word in mind. Starts with a 'c' and ends with 'struck'.

[6:29:28 PM] me: I sent the 20,000 baht yesterday I checked my account today and it has been sent, so you will get on 3-5 days not sure how long it will take

So, after all the advice you got here, you went ahead and sent her the money.

To be honest this is starting to get to stressful for me scam or no scam

What are you talking about? Of course it's a scam.

Seriously, you've got to be one of the most incredibly *censored* ever to post on TV. And that's saying something.

Edited April 25, 2014 by H1w4yR1da

tekNique · April 25, 2014

I sent her money to move into an apartment 20k baht, not 30k US dollars for divorce. Ill be asking to see photo of lease agreement. If I never see her or the 20k baht again not the end of the world and one could say its a payment for services rendered

belg · April 25, 2014

she always appeared to have 2 kids, but in all the posts, only after posting your skype conversation, made that clear to me

how nuts can you be ?

breaking up a marriage, for a no education woman, ok, you might have had the best sex of your life, this is how they trap you ...

if i was the husband and had some dark friends, well, you would get a message that you would never be save to live in thailand ...

and overhere, crazy bastards enough that love stab & shoot for less than that...

TheRascal · April 25, 2014

I sent her money to move into an apartment 20k baht, not 30k US dollars for divorce. Ill be asking to see photo of lease agreement. If I never see her or the 20k baht again not the end of the world and one could say its a payment for services rendered

Lease would likely be in Thai, mine is with just an english translation for me as a westerner. If she is moving in to an apartment 20k is reasonable for the first month - likely 2 months deposit and one month upfront (say 15k total and 5 left over for buying stuff for the room), but surely if she moves out she can't work anymore?!

ve741 · April 25, 2014

AND she had 2 kids? dude... are you seriously mental??

Actually some girl who was just recently divorced contacted me a while ago.. she has 2 kids.. she divorced because the husband was hitting her....

Real nice looking girl in her low 30's.. makes yours look like road kill. I don't do kids.. actually I don't do much of anything that requires too much responsible...... but if kids don't bother you... I'll give you her info..

http://s29.postimg.org/ygfjrs9xj/tyu.jpg

Edited April 25, 2014 by ve741

Tony125 · April 25, 2014

This morning she email me saying her husband wants to talk with me. To be honest this is starting to get to stressful for me scam or no scam and after thinking last night I was going to suggest to her that she stay home for a month and we'll revaluate after. even if I do get an apartment for he rshe would probably be denied a visa to come to Aus anyway cause her work is tied in with her husband, so she wouldn't fit the requirments for "something to return to" I grow tired of this but do love her but it all seems to hard now after thinking for a few days. I do feel bad for being with a married woman but she shouldn't of presented herself on a dating website.

I just came back from Thailand on Tuesday morning, I cant head back for awhile I have responsibilities here. To be honest all the advice and stress makes me just want to get out of this. I don't want to break her heart though and my promises but it has become more than I can handle. If there is a next time I look on a dating site single or divorced is the only ones I pursue.

You NEVER mentioned in all your posts untill posted Skype message that she had 2 kids, why? Afraid of getting even more negative comments?

And you are correct if you have her move out to an apartment somwhere she won't be able to still work at job/business he owns so you would have to support her with rent , food ,ect every month and probably the kids too. She also woiuld not be able to get a tourist visa and if he doesn't give her a divorice she can't get a fiancee or marriage visa to move to Aus.

Next others may not agree with me but stay off dating sites---you never know who your writing /talking to is really telling the truth. Could be single, married, older younger, went to University-never graduated high school they can lie. But hey you don't think its a scam so I guess you can afford say 30,000 Thai Baht a month to put her up and support her and then visit her every 5--6 months to spend time with your soul mate. ( The other time she will be with her husband and family.)

dannyshin · April 25, 2014

This morning she email me saying her husband wants to talk with me. To be honest this is starting to get to stressful for me scam or no scam and after thinking last night I was going to suggest to her that she stay home for a month and we'll revaluate after. even if I do get an apartment for he rshe would probably be denied a visa to come to Aus anyway cause her work is tied in with her husband, so she wouldn't fit the requirments for "something to return to" I grow tired of this but do love her but it all seems to hard now after thinking for a few days. I do feel bad for being with a married woman but she shouldn't of presented herself on a dating website.

I just came back from Thailand on Tuesday morning, I cant head back for awhile I have responsibilities here. To be honest all the advice and stress makes me just want to get out of this. I don't want to break her heart though and my promises but it has become more than I can handle. If there is a next time I look on a dating site single or divorced is the only ones I pursue.
You NEVER mentioned in all your posts untill posted Skype message that she had 2 kids, why? Afraid of getting even more negative comments?
And you are correct if you have her move out to an apartment somwhere she won't be able to still work at job/business he owns so you would have to support her with rent , food ,ect every month and probably the kids too. She also woiuld not be able to get a tourist visa and if he doesn't give her a divorice she can't get a fiancee or marriage visa to move to Aus.
Next others may not agree with me but stay off dating sites---you never know who your writing /talking to is really telling the truth. Could be single, married, older younger, went to University-never graduated high school they can lie. But hey you don't think its a scam so I guess you can afford say 30,000 Thai Baht a month to put her up and support her and then visit her every 5--6 months to spend time with your soul mate. ( The other time she will be with her husband and family.)

Hi. It is not negative for having kids if woman is honest. But I feel this story is taking different rout. I wonder if he is writing some novel.

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H1w4yR1da · April 25, 2014

I sent her money to move into an apartment 20k baht, not 30k US dollars for divorce. Ill be asking to see photo of lease agreement.

Sigh!
You really are clueless, aren't you?
Ever heard of Photoshop?
Un-friggin'-believable!!

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ve741 · April 25, 2014

You shame Men everywhere!

Rob180 · April 25, 2014

I sent her money to move into an apartment 20k baht, not 30k US dollars for divorce. Ill be asking to see photo of lease agreement. If I never see her or the 20k baht again not the end of the world and one could say its a payment for services rendered

You cannot be serious..................why did you send her 20,000 baht for an apartment when good 2 bedroomed houses can be rented for about 10,000 up? For 20,000 she could get one with enough rooms big enough for her family and umpteeen of their cousins as well as a few buffaloes lol. Are you completely crazy? Also why did you not allow the poster who said he would contact her on Skype to go ahead? That would have got you the answer in a few minutes? Why have you not checked if she is on other dating sites etc.............all you need to do as I told you already is join SPOKEO. Did you even bother sending the money by a method where the collection location can be accurately identified? I suspect not, you probably sent it direct to her bank account!!

I'm beginning to think this is just another troll thread now.

ve741 · April 25, 2014

you people all disgust me!!

Mudcrab · April 25, 2014

Ok first off, I HAVE seen this occur before and it's usually a scam. The "trapped" thing is very suspicious, but everybody else has already told you that and you're convincing yourself your dreams have come true, so let me focus on your side of it.

You're clearly smitten, so at least do some due dillegence and just get the relationship wheels moving. There is NO excuse for any of the following to be too much trouble for her if she cares half as much as you think. If it is a scam, you'll get excuses and probably be in the too hard basket before you get to step 3 (with your money in the bank).

1. Don't pay the money. If she can see friends, she can escape, but you may need to give her a place to escape too. If there's violence threatened, then one of her friends can go get her with the police (not you - police will not help you).

2. You can have a marriage annulled if you can prove the relationship is disfunctional for over 2 years (it's a neglection cause that's a pain in the butt, but it can be done). That means no shared living with him or shared bed with him for that period of time. Then he doesn't have to agree to get a divorce. So work on getting her somewhere safe and with you and start bulding up the 2 years.

3. If she does love you, then she will actually work to be with you. Scams like this exist in australia too, but the line here is wide and very very grey. Remember, even bar girls dream of a good boyfriend here, but they'll happily suck the ones they don't like dry in the meantime (why not? Run round australia offering the equivalent of a six figure salary to make you feel special and I know a bunch of aussie chicks who'd convince any man they loved him for that - so lets not judge)

4. To test this (and you MUST test this), give her a way out without spending money. If she loves you, she will take it.

5. Get together all the paperwork for a tourist visa (evidence of relationship, chat transcripts and all the photos of you together you can find). You'll also need to prove a reason to return on her part (job property or family). Even find a way to live here for a month or 2 to make it happen. Beurocracy will test any thai girl's resolve and most scammers move on the minute they have to fill in a 5 page form and wait in line at the embassy.

6. Aussie immigration don't give a crap if they're seperated, but still married, so partner tourist visas are fine as long as you can prove the relationship is real (I've done 2 with my wife before she was my wife).

7. Take her to Aus, forget expensive resturants, throwing money around and wining and dining. Just look after her and enjoy the time together doing chilled stuff. Even plan to spend another few months here when it runs out (she WILL get homesick - never heard of a thai girl who doesn't).

8. Ignore all cash to friend/family requests for that time (anything over $100 sets a bad precendent - school shoes for a brother, fine, somebody who's about to die to a loan shark if you don't send them 100,000baht - forget it). If she's legit, it will be the last thing on her mind and won't taint the relationship, but it will come up. Regular, small deposits to her when she's with you are cool and a record of real relationship. Get both names on bills if you can.

9. After 12months you can get a defacto visa from Aus. Our immigration does not require a divorce certificate (although there will be questions without one) if you've been living together for over a year.. get past that 12months and her ex can eat it.

If you get through the above tests, then you are right. If all you get is excuses excuses excuses and the complete run around. Then, please, for the self respect of all aussies, forget her and move on.

The line between scam and "fun" here is soooooooo different mate. I'm assuming you're not an idiot and that your vibe of her affection was actually real. The fun she had was real. She probably even likes you. BUT! Family is thick here and in a hardup thai family, the assumption is you've got money coming out of every orifice.. and why shouldn't they have some for all that fun you had with her?

There can be happy endings (I had a similar story without the money demands and 6 years later - happily married with a great relationship with the family), but 1 thing is true - pay up and you'll either be completely ripped off or at the very least become the dumb ugly farang cliche those in her family are making you out to be by putting this pressure on.

Fight for it if you want, but you will 100% lose if you hand over a single dollar, scam or no scam.

Utter rubbish.

We are in the final stages of getting the prospective spouse visa for my girlfriend to come to Oz to marry.

We had to provide the marriage certificate from her (and my) previous marriage and the divorce certificate from her (and my) previous marriage.

The Aust Embassy BKK have also requested a certificate or evidence that she is single and is able to be married. We submitted this to the Embassy on Thursday, yesterday.

One of the biggest issues Oz immigration has (had) is already married women coming to Oz to marry Australians. The process is very, very thorough.

We also had to get details from her primary school, high school, university and work history on top of the medical and police clearance all to prove that she is who she says she is.

There is also the house book to show the family members and sign off by the local Gumnun (excuse the spelling) and statements from friends and family (both in Oz and Thailand) that attest the relationship is genuine.

So far it has taken 7 months since the application was submitted.and is likely to be another 2 or 3 until finalised.

If you think you can just bring a lady here and wait 12 months then you are very much mistaken. She won't get a 12 month visitor visa anyway. Maybe 6 months if you are lucky, most likely three and even time at that. I.e 3 months in Oz and 3 months out, or 6 months in Oz and six months out.

This applies to Thailand and the Philippines as they are the two countries that have historically proven to be the most problematic in the area of already married women coming to OZ.

Edited April 25, 2014 by Mudcrab

dannyshin · April 25, 2014

I sent her money to move into an apartment 20k baht, not 30k US dollars for divorce. Ill be asking to see photo of lease agreement. If I never see her or the 20k baht again not the end of the world and one could say its a payment for services rendered
You cannot be serious..................why did you send her 20,000 baht for an apartment when good 2 bedroomed houses can be rented for about 10,000 up? For 20,000 she could get one with enough rooms big enough for her family and umpteeen of their cousins as well as a few buffaloes lol. Are you completely crazy? Also why did you not allow the poster who said he would contact her on Skype to go ahead? That would have got you the answer in a few minutes? Why have you not checked if she is on other dating sites etc.............all you need to do as I told you already is join SPOKEO. Did you even bother sending the money by a method where the collection location can be accurately identified? I suspect not, you probably sent it direct to her bank account!!

I'm beginning to think this is just another troll thread now.

It is waste of time to advice this man. He may be fiction writer not a real guy. Then why bothering to give Skype I'd?

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dannyshin · April 25, 2014

Ok first off, I HAVE seen this occur before and it's usually a scam. The "trapped" thing is very suspicious, but everybody else has already told you that and you're convincing yourself your dreams have come true, so let me focus on your side of it.

You're clearly smitten, so at least do some due dillegence and just get the relationship wheels moving. There is NO excuse for any of the following to be too much trouble for her if she cares half as much as you think. If it is a scam, you'll get excuses and probably be in the too hard basket before you get to step 3 (with your money in the bank).

1. Don't pay the money. If she can see friends, she can escape, but you may need to give her a place to escape too. If there's violence threatened, then one of her friends can go get her with the police (not you - police will not help you).

2. You can have a marriage annulled if you can prove the relationship is disfunctional for over 2 years (it's a neglection cause that's a pain in the butt, but it can be done). That means no shared living with him or shared bed with him for that period of time. Then he doesn't have to agree to get a divorce. So work on getting her somewhere safe and with you and start bulding up the 2 years.

3. If she does love you, then she will actually work to be with you. Scams like this exist in australia too, but the line here is wide and very very grey. Remember, even bar girls dream of a good boyfriend here, but they'll happily suck the ones they don't like dry in the meantime (why not? Run round australia offering the equivalent of a six figure salary to make you feel special and I know a bunch of aussie chicks who'd convince any man they loved him for that - so lets not judge)

4. To test this (and you MUST test this), give her a way out without spending money. If she loves you, she will take it.

5. Get together all the paperwork for a tourist visa (evidence of relationship, chat transcripts and all the photos of you together you can find). You'll also need to prove a reason to return on her part (job property or family). Even find a way to live here for a month or 2 to make it happen. Beurocracy will test any thai girl's resolve and most scammers move on the minute they have to fill in a 5 page form and wait in line at the embassy.

6. Aussie immigration don't give a crap if they're seperated, but still married, so partner tourist visas are fine as long as you can prove the relationship is real (I've done 2 with my wife before she was my wife).

7. Take her to Aus, forget expensive resturants, throwing money around and wining and dining. Just look after her and enjoy the time together doing chilled stuff. Even plan to spend another few months here when it runs out (she WILL get homesick - never heard of a thai girl who doesn't).

8. Ignore all cash to friend/family requests for that time (anything over $100 sets a bad precendent - school shoes for a brother, fine, somebody who's about to die to a loan shark if you don't send them 100,000baht - forget it). If she's legit, it will be the last thing on her mind and won't taint the relationship, but it will come up. Regular, small deposits to her when she's with you are cool and a record of real relationship. Get both names on bills if you can.

9. After 12months you can get a defacto visa from Aus. Our immigration does not require a divorce certificate (although there will be questions without one) if you've been living together for over a year.. get past that 12months and her ex can eat it.

If you get through the above tests, then you are right. If all you get is excuses excuses excuses and the complete run around. Then, please, for the self respect of all aussies, forget her and move on.

The line between scam and "fun" here is soooooooo different mate. I'm assuming you're not an idiot and that your vibe of her affection was actually real. The fun she had was real. She probably even likes you. BUT! Family is thick here and in a hardup thai family, the assumption is you've got money coming out of every orifice.. and why shouldn't they have some for all that fun you had with her?

There can be happy endings (I had a similar story without the money demands and 6 years later - happily married with a great relationship with the family), but 1 thing is true - pay up and you'll either be completely ripped off or at the very least become the dumb ugly farang cliche those in her family are making you out to be by putting this pressure on.

Fight for it if you want, but you will 100% lose if you hand over a single dollar, scam or no scam.

Utter rubbish.

We are in the final stages of getting the prospective spouse visa for my girlfriend to come to Oz to marry.

We had to provide the marriage certificate from her (and my) previous marriage and the divorce certificate from her (and my) previous marriage.

The Aust Embassy BKK have also requested a certificate or evidence that she is single and is able to be married. We submitted this to the Embassy on Thursday, yesterday.

One of the biggest issues Oz immigration has (had) is already married women coming to Oz to marry Australians. The process is very, very thorough.

We also had to get details from her primary school, high school, university and work history on top of the medical and police clearance all to prove that she is who she says she is.

There is also the house book to show the family members and sign off by the local Gumnun (excuse the spelling) and statements from friends and family (both in Oz and Thailand) that attest the relationship is genuine.

So far it has taken 7 months since the application was submitted.and is likely to be another 2 or 3 until finalised.

If you think you can just bring a lady here and wait 12 months then you are very much mistaken. She won't get a 12 month visitor visa anyway. Maybe 6 months if you are lucky, most likely three and even time at that. I.e 3 months in Oz and 3 months out, or 6 months in Oz and six months out.

This applies to Thailand and the Philippines as they are the two countries that have historically proven to be the most problematic in the area of already married women coming to OZ.

And these women should pass basic English test as lots of immigrants cause problems in western countries

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ve741 · April 25, 2014

This applies to Thailand and the Philippines as they are the two countries that have historically proven to be the most problematic in the area of already married women coming to OZ.

gee I wonder why lol

Edited April 25, 2014 by ve741

ve741 · April 25, 2014

this is what you need to do... go to Thailand for 2 weeks.... find a good looking chic to stay with you... how her a good time.. treat her good...... bang the hell out of her...... then go back home... that is the only way to do things in Thailand...

unless you can actually live there somehow...

dginoob · April 25, 2014

Just read through your transcript. God that was painful reading. Assuming this isn't a huge troll (if it is you've spent a lot of time and effort on it), then I advise you to get a grip of yourself. Seriously. You are the same age as me but you are acting like a lovestruck 15 year old. Your pidgin tinglish communication with her is laughable. I am embarrassed FOR you.

It's not clear from your posts how many times you have visited Thailand or how much interaction you have had with Thai women. I am guessing it is very little, and likely that she is the first Thai girl you have spent time with. My advice, though I know you will not heed any of it, is as follows:

Grow the f*#k up. Stop acting like someone who should still be living with their mummy.
DO NOT send any more money.
Reread number 2 again.
Reread your transcript with this girl objectively and ask yourself, is this the conversation of a normal relationship? Is this normal for a 35yo guy to be talking like this?
I think you have self esteem issues. You should deal with these before considering any serious relationship, especially with a younger Thai girl.
Reread number 2 again.

Ok I know you won't take any of my advice so I hope you come out the other end of this without too much financial, mental and physical damage.

Good luck. You most certainly are going to need it.

Best,

D

Edited April 25, 2014 by dginoob

TheRascal · April 25, 2014

And these women should pass basic English test as lots of immigrants cause problems in western countries

Bit of casual racism on a Friday afternoon. Thought I was on the daily mail website for a second.

A lot of us immigrants cause problems in these eastern countries

Tony125 · April 25, 2014

dannyshin

Hi. It is not negative for having kids if woman is honest. But I feel this story is taking different rout. I wonder if he is writing some novel.

***** I never said it was negative having kids just told him now all of a sudden we hear she has 2 kids, seems the story keeps changing and he neglected to mention kids before because he did'nt want negative comments about going aftr a married women with kids, would make him the housebreaker even if she was on web site---or they don't exsit and just adjusting story.

ve741 · April 25, 2014

I once had a Thai girl tell me... "Don't worry I will show you what you need to do for me to love you"......

I didn't hang around to find out what that might be..

oh and she also mentioned.. about not hanging around if things got hard.... because she was "woman" and woman not want hard.......

these thai girls are just as bad or even worse than Western girls if you think about it...

Edited April 25, 2014 by ve741

TheRascal · April 25, 2014

Hi. It is not negative for having kids if woman is honest. But I feel this story is taking different rout. I wonder if he is writing some novel.

It's called Private W*nker

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