NACC may make decision on Yingluck's indictment Wednesday

[webfact]

NACC may make decision on Yingluck's indictment Wednesday

BANGKOK: -- The National Anti-Corruption Commission has finished reviewing facts and evidences in the rice-pledging case against caretaker Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra, a well-informed source said.

The source said the NACC would make a decision on her indictment Wednesday.


-- The Nation 2014-05-07

[Showbags]

May the shIt all hit the fan at once....

Edited May 7, 2014 by Showbags

[Piichai]

Great news.

When it rains, it pours...

[Thailand]

What a coincidence!

[Stradavarius37]

Any bets on how many crocodile tears are shed today?

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[Thait Spot]

What a coincidence!

So. Resign or double trouble.

Thaksin's way to the land of camels?

Or Yinglucks's retreat to Chiang Mai?

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[catterwell]

Today or Wednesday 14?

[Costas2008]

Great news.

When it rains, it pours...

Well, as it hasn't rained for a long time in Thailand, todays downfall will be most welcome by the Thai people.

[seajae]

as they say, stick the boot in while they are down and to be honest it couldnt happen to a more deserving person. With all the crap she is stating it will be great to see her stripped of her hautiness and made to look like everyone else and to suffer the same consequences. This is great news.

[rabas]

Yingluck said yesterday you can't revive a dead body and kill it a second time. Guess they took her seriously and decided to do it a third time. Reminds me of driving a stake through the heart of a Vampire.

[webfact]

NACC may make decision on Yingluck's indictment Thursday
May 7, 2014 9:04 am

BANGKOK: -- The National Anti-Corruption Commission has finished reviewing facts and evidences in the rice-pledging case against caretaker Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra, a well-informed source said.

The source said the NACC would make a decision on her indictment Thursday.

-- The Nation 2014-05-07

[slapout]

This decision has been too long in happening, it has come down to, a decision has to be made and made public, with names, penalities, etc, or then again, maybe not.

The Thai way seems to be, to leave some ''wiggle room'' for everyone involved. I hope this is not another repeat process. Get this show on the road, the chance to clean up a huge financial, corrupt mess that should never have been given the chance to pollute and infect the country, is being presented, lets see if they are up to the task that needs to be done.

[Tatsujin]

That door has just been opened a crack to leave her, Pheu Thai and Thaksin a way out . . . I'm betting they don't take it . . .

[Scamper]

The NACC ruling will be tomorrow. It will almost certainly involve a recommendation to conduct impeachment proceedings through the Senate, at which point Yingluck's defense would be transported to that venue. Such a recommendation would of course involve stepping down immediately. Today, that is likely to happen in any event from the ruling from the Constitutional Court. All eyes will be on the Constitutional Court today as they could affect one of a number of possibilities. One of the strongest possibilities could be the removal of Yingluck and her cabinet as a result of a guilty verdict, along with enabling the path to pursue the nomination of a prime minister through the Senate, which the constitution allows in lieu of a quorum-less parliament. If that were the case, there would be a rush to elect a Senate speaker and nominate a prime minister before the current Senate session ends on Saturday. So this could move very quickly. Of course, if this route were recommended, that would in effect mark the end of Thaksin's influence. It would affect a break from it. There would be no relatives to pool from - no confidants.

But the ruling - whatever it may be - will not be the end of the story, though of course it should be. We still do not know how the various participants in this drama will react - Yingluck and her administration, the UDD, Abhisit and the Democratic party, Suthep and the PDRC, Thaksin, and of course - the army. The army would likely only step in if the authority of the court were challenged. Everybody in this drama - regardless as to political stripe - realizes that, and that's a good thing, because all have respect for the power of the army. It has kept them all in check. Just that awareness alone has kept this crisis from spilling over. The first signs will come from Yingluck and her ministers. If they show even the slightest indications of balking or resisting the ruling, then the crisis will likely escalate, as all the other participants in this game of dominoes would react to that in kind - almost in a knee-jerk reaction. So the first step towards healing would be if Yingluck and her ministers were to unconditionally and gracefully accept the ruling. That is the best case scenario. But even if that were the case, there is the question of the UDD and all the others. With all those tensions and competing narratives at play the army may be the only hope of being peace and order to the crisis, starting with the protection of the courts and their rulings.

Edited May 7, 2014 by Scamper

[Old Man River]

The NACC ruling will be tomorrow. It will almost certainly involve a recommendation to conduct impeachment proceedings through the Senate, at which point Yingluck's defense would be transported to that venue. Such a recommendation would of course involve stepping down immediately. Today, that is likely to happen in any event from the ruling from the Constitutional Court. All eyes will be on the Constitutional Court today as they could affect one of a number of possibilities. One of the strongest possibilities could be the removal of Yingluck and her cabinet as a result of a guilty verdict, along with enabling the path to pursue the nomination of a prime minister through the Senate, which the constitution allows in lieu of a quorum-less parliament. If that were the case, there would be a rush to elect a Senate speaker and nominate a prime minister before the current Senate session ends on Saturday. So this could move very quickly. Of course, if this route were recommended, that would in effect mark the end of Thaksin's influence. It would affect a break from it. There would be no relatives to pool from - no confidants.

But the ruling - whatever it may be - will not be the end of the story, though of course it should be. We still do not know how the various participants in this drama will react - Yingluck and her administration, the UDD, Abhisit and the Democratic party, Suthep and the PDRC, Thaksin, and of course - the army. The army would likely only step in if the authority of the court were challenged. Everybody in this drama - regardless as to political stripe - realizes that, and that's a good thing, because all have respect for the power of the army. It has kept them all in check. Just that awareness alone has kept this crisis from spilling over. The first signs will come from Yingluck and her ministers. If they show even the slightest indications of balking or resisting the ruling, then the crisis will likely escalate, as all the other participants in this game of dominoes would react to that in kind - almost in a knee-jerk reaction. So the first step towards healing would be if Yingluck and her ministers were to unconditionally and gracefully accept the ruling. That is the best case scenario. But even if that were the case, there is the question of the UDD and all the others. With all those tensions and competing narratives at play the army may be the only hope of being peace and order to the crisis, starting with the protection of the courts and their rulings.

The unknown in all of this is the senate. The CC can install the senate if no PM or cabinet exists, as you so stated in your first paragraph. In addition, as of last night, the EC had not yet submitted the Royal Decree relating to the July 20th election for YL to sign. So if she is removed without signing this decree, then there is no July 20th election.

Commissions (unlike courts), need a 60% senate majority to ratify their indictments. A simple 51% majority doesn't cut it. Elected senators normally vote with existing governments, but how will they vote if they are the existing government? We have seen the majority of the unelected senators vote anti- government in the past, but not all. The big question as it relates to the NAAC's decisions, at present, is whether the senate can garner 60%. I am, of course, assuming that the normal rules applying to the senate would remain, regardless of any other powers it might pick up along the way.

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[Thaiisnotrequired]

I wonder if Royal Thai Airforce One is already taxiing around Don Muang?

[h90]

Any bets on how many crocodile tears are shed today?

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that will be worse than the 2011 floods

[ginjag]

I wonder if Royal Thai Airforce One is already taxiing around Don Muang?

Helicopter with NIGHT VISION this time, to Chiang Mai to collect all that's needed and leave from there.

Posters any odd aircraft waiting in the wings at CM airport, if so could be interesting.

[h90]

I wonder if Royal Thai Airforce One is already taxiing around Don Muang?

Helicopter with NIGHT VISION this time, to Chiang Mai to collect all that's needed and leave from there.

Posters any odd aircraft waiting in the wings at CM airport, if so could be interesting.

A while ago Thaksin children visit Thaksin with an enormous amount of luggage....So I guess must of the $$ are safe...

[gabruce]

The NACC ruling will be tomorrow. It will almost certainly involve a recommendation to conduct impeachment proceedings through the Senate, at which point Yingluck's defense would be transported to that venue. Such a recommendation would of course involve stepping down immediately. Today, that is likely to happen in any event from the ruling from the Constitutional Court. All eyes will be on the Constitutional Court today as they could affect one of a number of possibilities. One of the strongest possibilities could be the removal of Yingluck and her cabinet as a result of a guilty verdict, along with enabling the path to pursue the nomination of a prime minister through the Senate, which the constitution allows in lieu of a quorum-less parliament. If that were the case, there would be a rush to elect a Senate speaker and nominate a prime minister before the current Senate session ends on Saturday. So this could move very quickly. Of course, if this route were recommended, that would in effect mark the end of Thaksin's influence. It would affect a break from it. There would be no relatives to pool from - no confidants.

But the ruling - whatever it may be - will not be the end of the story, though of course it should be. We still do not know how the various participants in this drama will react - Yingluck and her administration, the UDD, Abhisit and the Democratic party, Suthep and the PDRC, Thaksin, and of course - the army. The army would likely only step in if the authority of the court were challenged. Everybody in this drama - regardless as to political stripe - realizes that, and that's a good thing, because all have respect for the power of the army. It has kept them all in check. Just that awareness alone has kept this crisis from spilling over. The first signs will come from Yingluck and her ministers. If they show even the slightest indications of balking or resisting the ruling, then the crisis will likely escalate, as all the other participants in this game of dominoes would react to that in kind - almost in a knee-jerk reaction. So the first step towards healing would be if Yingluck and her ministers were to unconditionally and gracefully accept the ruling. That is the best case scenario. But even if that were the case, there is the question of the UDD and all the others. With all those tensions and competing narratives at play the army may be the only hope of being peace and order to the crisis, starting with the protection of the courts and their rulings.

I don't think there will be a rush. Once they opened the Senate session and determined that there wasn't immediate agreement on the Speaker, they announced that the Speaker will be elected on Friday. As you imply, there will be pressure to keep to their plan. Your comment about there possibly being a rush to nominate a caretaker Prime Minister is likely.

[Smokemachine]

[Arkady]

The NACC ruling will be tomorrow. It will almost certainly involve a recommendation to conduct impeachment proceedings through the Senate, at which point Yingluck's defense would be transported to that venue. Such a recommendation would of course involve stepping down immediately. Today, that is likely to happen in any event from the ruling from the Constitutional Court. All eyes will be on the Constitutional Court today as they could affect one of a number of possibilities. One of the strongest possibilities could be the removal of Yingluck and her cabinet as a result of a guilty verdict, along with enabling the path to pursue the nomination of a prime minister through the Senate, which the constitution allows in lieu of a quorum-less parliament. If that were the case, there would be a rush to elect a Senate speaker and nominate a prime minister before the current Senate session ends on Saturday. So this could move very quickly. Of course, if this route were recommended, that would in effect mark the end of Thaksin's influence. It would affect a break from it. There would be no relatives to pool from - no confidants.

But the ruling - whatever it may be - will not be the end of the story, though of course it should be. We still do not know how the various participants in this drama will react - Yingluck and her administration, the UDD, Abhisit and the Democratic party, Suthep and the PDRC, Thaksin, and of course - the army. The army would likely only step in if the authority of the court were challenged. Everybody in this drama - regardless as to political stripe - realizes that, and that's a good thing, because all have respect for the power of the army. It has kept them all in check. Just that awareness alone has kept this crisis from spilling over. The first signs will come from Yingluck and her ministers. If they show even the slightest indications of balking or resisting the ruling, then the crisis will likely escalate, as all the other participants in this game of dominoes would react to that in kind - almost in a knee-jerk reaction. So the first step towards healing would be if Yingluck and her ministers were to unconditionally and gracefully accept the ruling. That is the best case scenario. But even if that were the case, there is the question of the UDD and all the others. With all those tensions and competing narratives at play the army may be the only hope of being peace and order to the crisis, starting with the protection of the courts and their rulings.

Impeachment is difficult due to need for a 60% vote in the Senate and nobody has ever been successfully impeached. Somchai and Suthep were both acquitted by the Senate. But don't forget that the NACC is also under a constitutional obligation to try to initiate criminal proceedings in the Supreme Court for Political Office Holders and has its own power of prosecution, if the attorney disagrees there is a case. Since the case is mainly under Section 157 of the Penal Code (dereliction of duty by a public official), the chances of a criminal conviction are quite good. The offence is punishable with a fine of up to B20k and/or up to 10 years in prison. A 10 year ban from politics would start at the completion of any prison term.