Thailand visa: Missing MH370 ‘behind visa run crackdown’. Fingerprints next?

[Scarpolo]

Because he's full of hate, jealousy and envy that people with little money are having a good time and that is not allowed in his tiny world.

Yes we are jealous of people with little money living in unairconditioned rooms and needing visa runs to be able to live somewhere, because they will never be able to get a visa at a consulate. Did I miss something? Sorry but you started to get personal

it is not hard to get a Visa at a consulate. It just requires the time and effort.

I am over 50, so will get the appropriate visa next time, as I too was caught up in trhe 30 day cycle, until I knew what i was doing

[paz]

Because he's full of hate, jealousy and envy that people with little money are having a good time and that is not allowed in his tiny world.

Yes we are jealous of people with little money living in unairconditioned rooms and needing visa runs to be able to live somewhere, because they will never be able to get a visa at a consulate. Did I miss something? Sorry but you started to get personal

Yes, you missed a good chance to stay quiet. Enjoy your A/C room now.

[paz]

When the USA makes it easy for Thai's to come to America, then the Thai's will likely reciprocate,

the US doesnt want Thai's here,

what do you think that tells the Thais?

It is not always linear like that. For example South Korea has a 90 days visa exemption bi-lateral agreement with Thailand, but now Thailand is cracking down on Koreans especially. Perhaps Korea did the same with Thais "abusing" the exemption, we just don't know.

So in a way the 30 days given by Thailand to USA, EU and Australia are already a good gesture, because they are not reciprocal.

Some other touristic countries don't do that, e.g Brazil requires a visa for Americans, while Argentina charges an additional entry fee.

Edited May 13, 2014 by paz

[Scarpolo]

When the USA makes it easy for Thai's to come to America, then the Thai's will likely reciprocate,

the US doesnt want Thai's here,

what do you think that tells the Thais?

It is not always linear as you say. For example South Korea has a 90 days visa exemption bi-lateral agreement with Thailand, but now Thailand ins cracking down on Koreans.Perhaps Korea did the same with Thais abusing the exemption, we just don't know.

So in a way the 30 days given by Thailand to USA, EU and Australia are already a good gesture, because they are not reciprocal.

Some other touristic countries don't do that, e.g Brazil requires a visa for Americans, while Argentina charges an additional entry fee.

There is surely something afoot,

we may never know the real reasons

for me,

Thailand has its attractions,

but also, many hassles

it may very well be that they no longer feel the "need" to be so generous to the rest of the world, ie.,they see foreigners mostly as drunken men who

come for their women, irrespective of age.

ask any TV poster in the bkk forums, and, thats mostly what you hear.

it isnt the reason I was there, nor the reason my friend is there, but, it is the reason many others are.

when you look at the problems of the bar prostitutes and associated crimes,

maybe they dont need it anymore, or want it,

as their industry develops and their tax base expands,

if it ever again does

Edited May 13, 2014 by Scarpolo

[Chillout101]

I am one of the oil & gas people (maybe) being hit by this, work/travel to europe for 17 days and spend 25 in thailand like clockwork. If it turns out I need a visa, lets say an ED visa, can I then re-enter on it 8 times a year?

Still have 3 years to hit 50 so that is a not an option

[ATF]

I am one of the oil & gas people (maybe) being hit by this, work/travel to europe for 17 days and spend 25 in thailand like clockwork. If it turns out I need a visa, lets say an ED visa, can I then re-enter on it 8 times a year?

Still have 3 years to hit 50 so that is a not an option

I believe the re-entry limit is 365 times 366 on leap years. If you have a family best to get a Family Support Visa. Both visas are around 25k plus about 3k for the multiple re-entry permit.

Edited May 13, 2014 by ATF

[MILT]

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So as with every crack down it will blow over in a matter of days

Normally you would be correct.

However this is not going to blow over as in the past.

[ATF]

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So as with every crack down it will blow over in a matter of days

Normally you would be correct.

However this is not going to blow over as in the past.

Crackdown means full strict enforcement just like the crackdowns on drugs, mobile phones in cars, speed limits, parking illegally, bars closing at certain hours, full naked dancing etc. Go figure.

[Gil]

I think anyone who thinks Farange money means anything to the Thai elite, I would say, you are wrong.

They are much more interested and worried about their industrial base and their commerce base,

there are millions of Thai's in the malls and on the streets, buying from vendors all day and night,

you barely see Farange, and as a % of the population, its less than drivel,

other than buying over priced alcohol, and bar girls no one in their right mind would touch if not plastered.

Farange's aren't wanted,

and it is beginning to show more and more

N x 70,000 ThB x 12 = Average gross income coming from abroad invested in the country every year. And it's close to one billion dollars!

N = the number of Farangs actually living in Thailand. I think that 400,000 out of a total population of 67,000,000 is not exaggerated.

A very naive calculation....also assuming that these foreigners don't use any on the government paid for facilities....like the national infrastructure, roads healthcare...beaches...etc etc...

Economics 101 :

Any amount of money brought into a country that stays in there (not plundered away in Dubai!) raises the level of Gross National Product (GNP).

Naïve but knowledged Pal !

[Keesters]

Perhaps if we weren't obliged to carry our (valuable) passports around with us all the time there would not be so many lost or stolen ones for people to use for illegal purposes. Surely some other ID could be acceptable to the police or they could escort us to wherever the passport is kept (hotel/home) to check it.

[Chillout101]

I am one of the oil & gas people (maybe) being hit by this, work/travel to europe for 17 days and spend 25 in thailand like clockwork. If it turns out I need a visa, lets say an ED visa, can I then re-enter on it 8 times a year?

Still have 3 years to hit 50 so that is a not an option

I believe the re-entry limit is 365 times 366 on leap years. If you have a family best to get a Family Support Visa. Both visas are around 25k plus about 3k for the multiple re-entry permit.

Sorry but I don't quite understand your answer, re-entry 365 times in a year? I enter and leave 8 times a year on average.

My wife is Burmese and she studies on an ED visa at university, so family visa is not an option.

[kurnell]

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So as with every crack down it will blow over in a matter of days

Normally you would be correct.

However this is not going to blow over as in the past.

Time will tell. Lazy is a lazy does

[Dogmatix]

I think anyone who thinks Farange money means anything to the Thai elite, I would say, you are wrong.

They are much more interested and worried about their industrial base and their commerce base,

there are millions of Thai's in the malls and on the streets, buying from vendors all day and night,

you barely see Farange, and as a % of the population, its less than drivel,

other than buying over priced alcohol, and bar girls no one in their right mind would touch if not plastered.

Farange's aren't wanted,

and it is beginning to show more and more

N x 70,000 ThB x 12 = Average gross income coming from abroad invested in the country every year. And it's close to one billion dollars!

N = the number of Farangs actually living in Thailand. I think that 400,000 out of a total population of 67,000,000 is not exaggerated.

A very naive calculation....also assuming that these foreigners don't use any on the government paid for facilities....like the national infrastructure, roads healthcare...beaches...etc etc...

Economics 101 :

Any amount of money brought into a country that stays in there (not plundered away in Dubai!) raises the level of Gross National Product (GNP).

Naïve but knowledged Pal !

That is only true if it is spent. GNP measures aggregate demand plus net exports of goods and services plus dividends and increase on Thai investments and deposites overseas. Money brought into to country and staying in deposits boosts the balance of payments but not GNP.

[Dogmatix]

I am surprised by all the posts suggesting that Thailand should accept foreigners living permanently in the country on transit visas on the basis that Thailand should be grateful for the net foreign inflows provided by these perpetual tourists. All countries have the right to determine their own visa policies and Thailand requires foreign living in the country to have long term visas under an appropriate category. Even they are probably in the minority there has been a certain percentage of foreigners abusing transit visas for the purpose of working illegally or conducting criminal activities. Authorities have the right and obligation to prevent this from happening by enforcing the existing laws. There is no reason why Thailand should feel grateful for modest per capita inflows from foreigners who don't respect the laws of Thailand.

The worst thing is that the abuse of transit visas will make life a bit more difficult for bona fide tourists on long trips who want to visit several neighbouring countries via Thailand overland. They will have to apply for multiple re-entry visas in advance.

The main problem seems to be the past laxness of Immigration in enforcing its own regulations in the past. They should also be faulted for not giving clear notice they would start enforcing them.

[ATF]

I am one of the oil & gas people (maybe) being hit by this, work/travel to europe for 17 days and spend 25 in thailand like clockwork. If it turns out I need a visa, lets say an ED visa, can I then re-enter on it 8 times a year?

Still have 3 years to hit 50 so that is a not an option

I believe the re-entry limit is 365 times 366 on leap years. If you have a family best to get a Family Support Visa. Both visas are around 25k plus about 3k for the multiple re-entry permit.

Sorry but I don't quite understand your answer, re-entry 365 times in a year? I enter and leave 8 times a year on average.

My wife is Burmese and she studies on an ED visa at university, so family visa is not an option.

Well you will probably only be eligible for an ED visa. You will need a multiple re-entry stamp which allows unlimited entries and exits throughout the duration of the visa.

[thaibeachlovers]

Because he's full of hate, jealousy and envy that people with little money are having a good time and that is not allowed in his tiny world.

Yes we are jealous of people with little money living in unairconditioned rooms and needing visa runs to be able to live somewhere, because they will never be able to get a visa at a consulate. Did I miss something? Sorry but you started to get personal

<people with little money living in unairconditioned rooms and needing visa runs to be able to live somewhere, because they will never be able to get a visa at a consulate.>

make that "didn't need to get a visa at a consulate" and that would have been me some years back.

Are you saying people with little money that stay in fan rooms are inferior to yourself?

[hawker9000]

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So as with every crack down it will blow over in a matter of days

Normally you would be correct.

However this is not going to blow over as in the past.

And you speak with such assurance why?

[brewsterbudgen]

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So as with every crack down it will blow over in a matter of days

Normally you would be correct.

However this is not going to blow over as in the past.

And you speak with such assurance why?

I seem to remember a similar crackdown about 8 years ago, after the Canadian 'squirly face' paedophile was discovered teaching in Thailand.

Hopefully, like then, it will be a case of being seen to 'do something' and then will return to normal.

[Gil]

That is only true if it is spent. GNP measures aggregate demand plus net exports of goods and services plus dividends and increase on Thai investments and deposites overseas. Money brought into to country and staying in deposits boosts the balance of payments but not GNP.

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Who can live in Thailand without spending money? 70,000 ThB is a very-likely-to-be-reached average amount of expenses. Falangs are not all winos. Many are here to spend a lot of cash and are probably not to be seen in the same places as most others.

Condos & properties bought to the wives' name, businesses, etc... Only one example:

Chiang Mai Maya mall : Japanese investments, +% of Falang customers. Do the maths.

This is spent money man!!!

Edited May 14, 2014 by Gil

[Scarpolo]

I am surprised by all the posts suggesting that Thailand should accept foreigners living permanently in the country on transit visas on the basis that Thailand should be grateful for the net foreign inflows provided by these perpetual tourists. All countries have the right to determine their own visa policies and Thailand requires foreign living in the country to have long term visas under an appropriate category. Even they are probably in the minority there has been a certain percentage of foreigners abusing transit visas for the purpose of working illegally or conducting criminal activities. Authorities have the right and obligation to prevent this from happening by enforcing the existing laws. There is no reason why Thailand should feel grateful for modest per capita inflows from foreigners who don't respect the laws of Thailand.

The worst thing is that the abuse of transit visas will make life a bit more difficult for bona fide tourists on long trips who want to visit several neighbouring countries via Thailand overland. They will have to apply for multiple re-entry visas in advance.

The main problem seems to be the past laxness of Immigration in enforcing its own regulations in the past. They should also be faulted for not giving clear notice they would start enforcing them.

There is no reason why Thailand should feel grateful for modest per capita inflows from foreigners who don't respect the laws of Thailand.

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sorry,

you lost me right there

[wow64]

Dont understand how the missing plane relates to lost passports and that relates to visa runs... Anyway just get the correct visa its easy enough.

Sent from my c64

Edited May 14, 2014 by wow64

[Scarpolo]

Because he's full of hate, jealousy and envy that people with little money are having a good time and that is not allowed in his tiny world.

Yes we are jealous of people with little money living in unairconditioned rooms and needing visa runs to be able to live somewhere, because they will never be able to get a visa at a consulate. Did I miss something? Sorry but you started to get personal

<people with little money living in unairconditioned rooms and needing visa runs to be able to live somewhere, because they will never be able to get a visa at a consulate.>

make that "didn't need to get a visa at a consulate" and that would have been me some years back.

Are you saying people with little money that stay in fan rooms are inferior to yourself?

I would imagine that in the northern part of the country, an a/c in the house is not needed,

bedroom maybe, I would surely want one in the bedroom,

but, the rest of the home, if shaded and in countryside, then air conditioning would be a crime against humanity

[DrTuner]

Dont understand how the missing plane relates to lost passports and that relates to visa runs...

The relation is immigration lost face due to the passports and had to do some arbitrary kneejerk in order to restore it. It's the bane of Asia.

[Linno]

I can confirm that a growing number of countries administer fingerprint and iris scanning. UK requires that Thais have their fingerprints taken for the visa application - and on multiple occasions. BKK takes your picture so I could believe the process being expanded to othrr points of entry.

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[Enjoyurlife]

Because he's full of hate, jealousy and envy that people with little money are having a good time and that is not allowed in his tiny world.

Yes we are jealous of people with little money living in unairconditioned rooms and needing visa runs to be able to live somewhere, because they will never be able to get a visa at a consulate. Did I miss something? Sorry but you started to get personal

make that "didn't need to get a visa at a consulate" and that would have been me some years back.

Are you saying people with little money that stay in fan rooms are inferior to yourself?

Haha I am not going there just because you feel inferior to me, you don't need to

[RickyJB]

I am one of the oil & gas people (maybe) being hit by this, work/travel to europe for 17 days and spend 25 in thailand like clockwork. If it turns out I need a visa, lets say an ED visa, can I then re-enter on it 8 times a year?

Still have 3 years to hit 50 so that is a not an option

I believe the re-entry limit is 365 times 366 on leap years. If you have a family best to get a Family Support Visa. Both visas are around 25k plus about 3k for the multiple re-entry permit.

Sorry but I don't quite understand your answer, re-entry 365 times in a year? I enter and leave 8 times a year on average.

My wife is Burmese and she studies on an ED visa at university, so family visa is not an option.

i would also like to know more about this, i am also in the oil and gas business, working 28-30 days away and come back to Thailand for just under 4 weeks... I am renting a place , for which myself and my girlfriend stay in Phuket, so would like to know how this would affect me.. Surely not exceeding 28 days and leaving the country for this length of time wont make any difference??? would like some genuine info so i can start to make visa plans

[ATF]

I am one of the oil & gas people (maybe) being hit by this, work/travel to europe for 17 days and spend 25 in thailand like clockwork. If it turns out I need a visa, lets say an ED visa, can I then re-enter on it 8 times a year?

Still have 3 years to hit 50 so that is a not an option

I believe the re-entry limit is 365 times 366 on leap years. If you have a family best to get a Family Support Visa. Both visas are around 25k plus about 3k for the multiple re-entry permit.

Sorry but I don't quite understand your answer, re-entry 365 times in a year? I enter and leave 8 times a year on average.

My wife is Burmese and she studies on an ED visa at university, so family visa is not an option.

i would also like to know more about this, i am also in the oil and gas business, working 28-30 days away and come back to Thailand for just under 4 weeks... I am renting a place , for which myself and my girlfriend stay in Phuket, so would like to know how this would affect me.. Surely not exceeding 28 days and leaving the country for this length of time wont make any difference??? would like some genuine info so i can start to make visa plans

ED Visa Multiple entry stamp. Come and go as you please but leave at least once every 90 days.

[Chillout101]

Thanks for reply.

Did I understand it correct that I will not have to go to immigration in BKK since the airport also counts as a "90 day" checkup on adress etc?

[ATF]

Thanks for reply.

Did I understand it correct that I will not have to go to immigration in BKK since the airport also counts as a "90 day" checkup on adress etc?

Please Google " visa consultant thailand " and " education visa thailand " all will be revealed!

[William C F Pierce]

What this long text means is you have to get you VISA by catching and return by air on another MH370?!

Edited May 15, 2014 by William C F Pierce