Thai govt calls emergency meeting to respond to martial law

[soalbundy]

Oh look !! the government has responded to something.

[love1012]

" ... entering the residences of a number of Cabinet members, including Labour Minister Chalerm Yoobamrung "

​This is will be a curious story to follow. In the meantime, one would have loved to have seen Chalerm's expression captured by Khaosod for posterity.

" The army has also shut down a number of politicized TV stations, including Asia Update and Blue Sky TV. "

Good old Khaosod. They fail to mention the highly politicized UDD networks that were also shut down. Likely an oversight. They tend to be so fastidious about these things.

the expression on his face was nothing compared to the load he dropped in his underpants when he saw the army coming through the front gate armed to the teeth

Perhaps you could give us all an update on sutheps whereabouts. He's got the cojones to face up to the army hasn't he?

Miaow! A tad sensitive?

Or perhaps you believe Dr. Pol. Capt Chalerm to be a politician and statesman of high ability, ethics and morals? Someone fit to be in a leading government position?

Well, do you?

awwww boohoo fab4 has the army had to spank you and put you back in your place again!! Wouldnt want you bringing criminals back into the country would we?

[love1012]

The following comment was posted in Thailand news thread

" Suthep, using Facebook webpage, urges Senate to propose name of interim PM; PDRC protesters stay at rally site, stage opens 24 hours /MCOT "

As the General has confirmed the caretaker government should remain in place , the Senate would no longer be able to claim it has the power to propose an interim PM without the military prior approval? So this in theory should shut up Suthep and the group of senators? Is that correct?

No.

I think it is right. and lining up against the Army already today were Time, NYT, Reuters, AlJazz, BBC, US State Dept. and next up EU who are convening emergency meeting on it.

Won't happen as it can't last. Appointing anybody without elections will make it much worse.

Army ain't seen nothing yet. Once they install themselves, they'll find themselves on the back foot for the entire period they manage to cling onto power for.

Same as always, they don't have the nubmer

Jenny dear - what do you mean by "they dont have the nubmer" please can you go back and edit your garbage so we can read it and then move on!! Remember - "The U.N is not Thailands Father"

[Piichai]

The following comment was posted in Thailand news thread

" Suthep, using Facebook webpage, urges Senate to propose name of interim PM; PDRC protesters stay at rally site, stage opens 24 hours /MCOT "

As the General has confirmed the caretaker government should remain in place , the Senate would no longer be able to claim it has the power to propose an interim PM without the military prior approval? So this in theory should shut up Suthep and the group of senators? Is that correct?

No.

why ? The general has only talked about the caretaker government. He hasnt mentioned anything about the Senators having power over him ?

If your premise is wrong, all that follows is wrong.

The fact that Prayuth asserts this is martial law and not a coup, gives the Acting Caretaker PM no legitimacy. Don't forget, even the EC is concerned about Boomer's legitimacy, which is one of the reasons they're dragging their feet on the election draft.

Without regard to what the Acting Caretaker PM wants, Prayuth has dissolved CAPO. That should speak volumes to you.

Edited May 20, 2014 by Piichai

[Piichai]

" ... entering the residences of a number of Cabinet members, including Labour Minister Chalerm Yoobamrung "

​This is will be a curious story to follow. In the meantime, one would have loved to have seen Chalerm's expression captured by Khaosod for posterity.

" The army has also shut down a number of politicized TV stations, including Asia Update and Blue Sky TV. "

Good old Khaosod. They fail to mention the highly politicized UDD networks that were also shut down. Likely an oversight. They tend to be so fastidious about these things.

the expression on his face was nothing compared to the load he dropped in his underpants when he saw the army coming through the front gate armed to the teeth

Perhaps you could give us all an update on sutheps whereabouts. He's got the cojones to face up to the army hasn't he?

Suthep is holding a meeting at Government House. Should be making a statement shortly.

[pkspeaker]

'Proping up' the Senate is the same thing as the army installing itself, that's the appointed vs the elected option, so that will be considered a military regime by the world.

The following comment was posted in Thailand news thread


" Suthep, using Facebook webpage, urges Senate to propose name of interim PM; PDRC protesters stay at rally site, stage opens 24 hours /MCOT "


As the General has confirmed the caretaker government should remain in place , the Senate would no longer be able to claim it has the power to propose an interim PM without the military prior approval? So this in theory should shut up Suthep and the group of senators? Is that correct?

No.

I think it is right. and lining up against the Army already today were Time, NYT, Reuters, AlJazz, BBC, US State Dept. and next up EU who are convening emergency meeting on it.

Won't happen as it can't last. Appointing anybody without elections will make it much worse.

Army ain't seen nothing yet. Once they install themselves, they'll find themselves on the back foot for the entire period they manage to cling onto power for.

Same as always, they don't have the nubmer

The odds are low the military will install themselves. More likely they'll prop up the Senate, if PTP doesn't resign first.

Re-read what the US State Department said. I don't think it's as damning as you would have us believe.

[Piichai]

Not really.

Prayuth is giving the Senate a chance to find a way out.

'Proping up' the Senate is the same thing as the army installing itself, that's the appointed vs the elected option, so that will be considered a military regime by the world.

The following comment was posted in Thailand news thread

" Suthep, using Facebook webpage, urges Senate to propose name of interim PM; PDRC protesters stay at rally site, stage opens 24 hours /MCOT "

As the General has confirmed the caretaker government should remain in place , the Senate would no longer be able to claim it has the power to propose an interim PM without the military prior approval? So this in theory should shut up Suthep and the group of senators? Is that correct?

No.

I think it is right. and lining up against the Army already today were Time, NYT, Reuters, AlJazz, BBC, US State Dept. and next up EU who are convening emergency meeting on it.

Won't happen as it can't last. Appointing anybody without elections will make it much worse.

Army ain't seen nothing yet. Once they install themselves, they'll find themselves on the back foot for the entire period they manage to cling onto power for.

Same as always, they don't have the nubmer

The odds are low the military will install themselves. More likely they'll prop up the Senate, if PTP doesn't resign first.

Re-read what the US State Department said. I don't think it's as damning as you would have us believe.

[Mentors]

In 2014 its easy for the world to watching what the Thai Army is doing...

[Piichai]

'Proping up' the Senate is the same thing as the army installing itself, that's the appointed vs the elected option, so that will be considered a military regime by the world.

The following comment was posted in Thailand news thread

" Suthep, using Facebook webpage, urges Senate to propose name of interim PM; PDRC protesters stay at rally site, stage opens 24 hours /MCOT "

As the General has confirmed the caretaker government should remain in place , the Senate would no longer be able to claim it has the power to propose an interim PM without the military prior approval? So this in theory should shut up Suthep and the group of senators? Is that correct?

No.

I think it is right. and lining up against the Army already today were Time, NYT, Reuters, AlJazz, BBC, US State Dept. and next up EU who are convening emergency meeting on it.

Won't happen as it can't last. Appointing anybody without elections will make it much worse.

Army ain't seen nothing yet. Once they install themselves, they'll find themselves on the back foot for the entire period they manage to cling onto power for.

Same as always, they don't have the nubmer

The odds are low the military will install themselves. More likely they'll prop up the Senate, if PTP doesn't resign first.

Re-read what the US State Department said. I don't think it's as damning as you would have us believe.

Do you you post in this manner to screw up threads on purpose?

Why not use a big silly font too?

[myluckythai]

if there is martial law withoput the government being the one calling it. How ist this different from a coup?

[Robby nz]

'Proping up' the Senate is the same thing as the army installing itself, that's the appointed vs the elected option, so that will be considered a military regime by the world.

The Senate is a legally constituted body under the constitution of this country.

It is at present the only legal part of the Thai Government.

So it is correct that the army should recognize the senate as a legitimate part of government and support it.

The 26 appointed acting caretaker cabinet ministers on the other hand have never been elected to any job they were all appointed at one time or another to the job of cabinet ministers as some sort of a reward for services rendered.

Some indeed flew to various parts of the world to beg to, lobby Thaksin for their jobs.

Those that did that successfully were appointed to the job of cabinet minister on the say so of a convicted criminal on the run who had no right under the law to have anything to do with governing the country.

[diehard60]

Seems even handed so far, although some tvfers relied on blue sky for the latest updates from Suthep. Must have been a relief to the anti government supporters to be relieved of their guarding of government house. Now they can go back to Surat Thani and phuket and extort the farangs and make up for their lost earnings

the shyster has a new topic.

Maybe so but i have to agree with him and not with you.

[Kan Win]

gabruce, on 20 May 2014 - 15:14, said:

and if the army calms things down and organizes elections (or at least moves things along so the EC gets the elections organized) in a reasonably expeditious timeframe, then I think thailand will mostly be very happy. Time to wait and see.

And together with the "reform package" which "Southern Mob" side has not detailed AT ALL.

Dems were in power and did nothing about these, close kept secrets about "reform package" are they then?

Come on all of you Dems and tell us the "reform package" and then lets put it to a VOTE, then, Thailand as the poster that I quoted said

Quote

will mostly be very happy

Win

Edited May 20, 2014 by Kan Win

[diehard60]

'Proping up' the Senate is the same thing as the army installing itself, that's the appointed vs the elected option, so that will be considered a military regime by the world.

The Senate is a legally constituted body under the constitution of this country.

It is at present the only legal part of the Thai Government.

So it is correct that the army should recognize the senate as a legitimate part of government and support it.

The 26 appointed acting caretaker cabinet ministers on the other hand have never been elected to any job they were all appointed at one time or another to the job of cabinet ministers as some sort of a reward for services rendered.

Some indeed flew to various parts of the world to beg to, lobby Thaksin for their jobs.

Those that did that successfully were appointed to the job of cabinet minister on the say so of a convicted criminal on the run who had no right under the law to have anything to do with governing the country.

Yo! dude the senate is NOT the legal government just yet. The caretaker PM has not resigned yet. Wake up please.

[diehard60]

The following comment was posted in Thailand news thread

" Suthep, using Facebook webpage, urges Senate to propose name of interim PM; PDRC protesters stay at rally site, stage opens 24 hours /MCOT "

As the General has confirmed the caretaker government should remain in place , the Senate would no longer be able to claim it has the power to propose an interim PM without the military prior approval? So this in theory should shut up Suthep and the group of senators? Is that correct?

No.

Yes. I think you shoulr go back to school and learn to read.

[soalbundy]

if there is martial law withoput the government being the one calling it. How ist this different from a coup?

What government?

[HOOD Robin]

"including Labour Minister Chalerm Yoobamrung"

he was removed from office.....

Ex-caretaker labour Minister Chalerm Yoobamrung.

Now he is Earmedicine Minister.

curious what the drunken sailor in disguise is gonna do now.... More killings on INNOCENT people on market places ??

[casualbiker]

'Proping up' the Senate is the same thing as the army installing itself, that's the appointed vs the elected option, so that will be considered a military regime by the world.

The Senate is a legally constituted body under the constitution of this country.

It is at present the only legal part of the Thai Government.

So it is correct that the army should recognize the senate as a legitimate part of government and support it.

The 26 appointed acting caretaker cabinet ministers on the other hand have never been elected to any job they were all appointed at one time or another to the job of cabinet ministers as some sort of a reward for services rendered.

Some indeed flew to various parts of the world to beg to, lobby Thaksin for their jobs.

Those that did that successfully were appointed to the job of cabinet minister on the say so of a convicted criminal on the run who had no right under the law to have anything to do with governing the country.

Yo! dude the senate is NOT the legal government just yet. The caretaker PM has not resigned yet. Wake up please.

What caretaker PM? Don't you mean the acting caretaker PM?

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[citizen33]

if there is martial law withoput the government being the one calling it. How ist this different from a coup?

What government?

The new power in the land seems to be thinking the same way.

Jonathan Head @pakhead

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When asked about the status of the give Thai army commander Prayuth said "where is the government?" Sounding more like a coup now.

9:41 AM - 20 May 2014

[fab4]

the expression on his face was nothing compared to the load he dropped in his underpants when he saw the army coming through the front gate armed to the teeth

Perhaps you could give us all an update on sutheps whereabouts. He's got the cojones to face up to the army hasn't he?

Miaow! A tad sensitive?

Or perhaps you believe Dr. Pol. Capt Chalerm to be a politician and statesman of high ability, ethics and morals? Someone fit to be in a leading government position?

Well, do you?

Not at all. I just find it amusing that all the usual suspects who erroneously claim that Jatuporn was not on stage to the end in 2010 are curiously absent in their comments on the fact that suthep was off like a robbers dog at 11.30 am and hasn't been seen since I believe.

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

This is the way I understand things as present:

--The military, by declaring martial law, has taken over all security related functions from the civilian government, including the Cabinet (whether anyone believes they're legitimately in power or not).

--AFAIK, the military has done nothing as yet to impact the current civilian government and the Cabinet, and their role in non-security matters (like paying debts to rice farmers, etc etc.)

--Presumably, the fate of the current civilian government and Cabinet will remain in the hands of the Election Commission and the Thai courts, in terms of the cases against Yingluck and the broader rice scandal cases involving other officials.

--If the military were to extend their control beyond security related issues, including removing the acting caretaker Prime Mininster and his sundry lackies, then that would be what would be defined as a coup.

[soalbundy]

if there is martial law withoput the government being the one calling it. How ist this different from a coup?

What government?

The new power in the land seems to be thinking the same way.

Jonathan Head @pakhead

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When asked about the status of the give Thai army commander Prayuth said "where is the government?" Sounding more like a coup now.

9:41 AM - 20 May 2014

Maybe,but he's right,where is it? Someone has to lead the way out of the dark wood,the military is the only one left,rather them than either the reds or the yellows

[Asiantravel]

gabruce, on 20 May 2014 - 15:14, said:

and if the army calms things down and organizes elections (or at least moves things along so the EC gets the elections organized) in a reasonably expeditious timeframe, then I think thailand will mostly be very happy. Time to wait and see.

And together with the "reform package" which "Southern Mob" side has not detailed AT ALL.

Dems were in power and did nothing about these, close kept secrets about "reform package" are they then?

Come on all of you Dems and tell us the "reform package" and then lets put it to a VOTE, then, Thailand as the poster that I quoted said

Quote

will mostly be very happy

Win

” And together with the "reform package" which "Southern Mob" side has not detailed AT ALL”.

I have wondered about this a lot.

Unless these reforms will include some mechanism to somehow try to” dilute “ the power and numbers of the rural voters (which they or the rest of the world wouldn't accept as being democracy) I can't think of any other way that they can postpone the inevitable?. They have to go to an election some time and I would say this time around they will get an even bigger number as a sympathy vote

Edited May 20, 2014 by Asiantravel

[soalbundy]

gabruce, on 20 May 2014 - 15:14, said:

and if the army calms things down and organizes elections (or at least moves things along so the EC gets the elections organized) in a reasonably expeditious timeframe, then I think thailand will mostly be very happy. Time to wait and see.

And together with the "reform package" which "Southern Mob" side has not detailed AT ALL.

Dems were in power and did nothing about these, close kept secrets about "reform package" are they then?

Come on all of you Dems and tell us the "reform package" and then lets put it to a VOTE, then, Thailand as the poster that I quoted said

Quote

will mostly be very happy

Win

” And together with the "reform package" which "Southern Mob" side has not detailed AT ALL”.

I have wondered about this a lot.

Unless these reforms will include some mechanism to somehow try to” dilute “ the power and numbers of the rural voters (which they or the rest of the world wouldn't accept as being democracy) I can't think of any other way that they can postpone the inevitable?. They have to go to an election some time and I would say this time around they will get an even bigger number as a sympathy vote

May the best mob win

[inzman]

Maybe he can force this circus to a conclusion?

[Ace of Pop]

The start time of any Thai Emergency Meeting is determined by Caterers and Florist....

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

Jonathan Head @pakhead

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When asked about the status of the give Thai army commander Prayuth said "where is the government?" Sounding more like a coup now.

9:41 AM - 20 May 2014

Leaving aside the political bias of Head's tweet, I would assume the General's comment was made in the context of...

The supposed Cabinet was supposedly meeting today, but they weren't telling anyone where they were or what they were doing.

So not exactly surprising that a lot of people today might be asking: WHERE is the government?

Edited May 20, 2014 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[Tony125]

TIT In USA Martial Law could be declared by Government either State or Federal but here in Thailand the Military step in when they decide Martial law should be inforced. And even though the military has enacted martial law I have been informed that "only" a Royal Decree can end it. Before when the "Yellow Shirts" took over the airport and blocked ingoing or outgoing flites military was asked to step in by Gov but refused .

[wolf5370]

TIT In USA Martial Law could be declared by Government either State or Federal but here in Thailand the Military step in when they decide Martial law should be inforced. And even though the military has enacted martial law I have been informed that "only" a Royal Decree can end it. Before when the "Yellow Shirts" took over the airport and blocked ingoing or outgoing flites military was asked to step in by Gov but refused .

Erm yes. And? Your point is that the USA has different laws, and that the Army steps in when it is necessary with such measures and not on a whim when the police are able to act instead - I.e. Not as now

[Piichai]

The following comment was posted in Thailand news thread

" Suthep, using Facebook webpage, urges Senate to propose name of interim PM; PDRC protesters stay at rally site, stage opens 24 hours /MCOT "

As the General has confirmed the caretaker government should remain in place , the Senate would no longer be able to claim it has the power to propose an interim PM without the military prior approval? So this in theory should shut up Suthep and the group of senators? Is that correct?

No.

Yes. I think you shoulr go back to school and learn to read.

That's all you got?