hobz Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Why is the British Foreign Office not getting more involved in this? Why is the Government just letting events pass by day after day without stamping on the police who by every measure are not performing and the stench of corruption is overpowering? Where are morals and professionalism? Where is JUSTICE!!!!!!! You're under the assumption that there's a chain of responsibility somewhere...wrong.. if this goes to shit just as it looks like it will.. then nobody will be held responsible.. maybe a patsy or two.. but none of the people that should be held responsible... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimamey Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 They had enough evidence on the 23 September so what's the problem now? http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/762739-southern-police-chief-enough-evidence-in-british-tourists-murder-case-to-make-arrest-now/ My guess is it's the usual problem that is seen here by politicians and officials. Make a statement, any statement, so long as it sounds good. Don't worry if it's not true. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimamey Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Why is the British Foreign Office not getting more involved in this? Why is the Government just letting events pass by day after day without stamping on the police who by every measure are not performing and the stench of corruption is overpowering? Where are morals and professionalism? Where is JUSTICE!!!!!!! I don't understand that either. Why don't these large countries demand legit investigations in these cases? I don't think they're in a position to demand anything. I expect that there is pressure being applied behind the scenes however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunsetT Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Thus giving the suspect 3 days to abscond or raise sufficient tea money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimamey Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 I heard that FBI and Scotland Yard were doing their own investigations undercover and know exactly what the Thai Police are doing. Charge the wrong people for this and the entire Thai Police force will have to be sacked in front of the world....now that's a BIG loss of face.....karma. I was going to mention this earlier on in the investigation but decided to let them run with this entire disgusting excuse of an investigation. Also, I'd imagine that human right groups will be called in to save the poor sucker fitted up for this. FBI has NO jurasdiction in Thaialnd as neither victim was a US citizen, so it's all a load of bovine scatology. Only Thailand has jurisdiction in Thailand regardless of the nationality of the victims so the UK police and government can't make them do their jobs properly. There have been offers of foreign help and I would imagine there is a lot of diplomatic pressure being applied as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Local Drunk Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 I heard that FBI and Scotland Yard were doing their own investigations undercover and know exactly what the Thai Police are doing. Charge the wrong people for this and the entire Thai Police force will have to be sacked in front of the world....now that's a BIG loss of face.....karma. I was going to mention this earlier on in the investigation but decided to let them run with this entire disgusting excuse of an investigation. Also, I'd imagine that human right groups will be called in to save the poor sucker fitted up for this. FBI has NO jurasdiction in Thaialnd as neither victim was a US citizen, so it's all a load of bovine scatology. Only Thailand has jurisdiction in Thailand regardless of the nationality of the victims so the UK police and government can't make them do their jobs properly. There have been offers of foreign help and I would imagine there is a lot of diplomatic pressure being applied as well. Are you somehow insinuating that the RTA is incompetent? Surely you meant incontinent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostinisaan Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 I heard that FBI and Scotland Yard were doing their own investigations undercover and know exactly what the Thai Police are doing. Charge the wrong people for this and the entire Thai Police force will have to be sacked in front of the world....now that's a BIG loss of face.....karma. I was going to mention this earlier on in the investigation but decided to let them run with this entire disgusting excuse of an investigation. Also, I'd imagine that human right groups will be called in to save the poor sucker fitted up for this. No offence mate but do you really believe that? And the entire Thai police force sacked in front of the world?? Im hoping yours is a piss take post and that you dont actually believe what you have posted. No it's not a piss take post, some of us hope for once folk with cash get sent down if they committed the crime. If anybody sends me only 500 K on my bank account, I might remember that I saw trans at the scene.... But it could take three days.....( until the money's on my account..) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozza Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Too bad CNN, FOX, BBC news did not follow this story closely! I think they would love this type of story, following the Thai Keystone Cops! They will now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozza Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 A police source told the Bangkok Post that detectives were looking for three men who shopped at a convenience store near Sairee Beach where the pair were killed. Captured on security cameras, the trio bought one item later found discarded. The source said DNA recovered from that package matched that found at the crime scene. Condom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmacken306 Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 What the H#^^, he could leave the country or just to the north and not worry! In the USA the UVA girl, they had the suspect, let him leave to see where he went, but one day later, to bad for him, arrested by FBI. because of new charges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mataleo Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 (edited) Koh Tao. Reports coming from island that three migrant workers detained in past 24 hours in connection with the inquiry. http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/Police-detain-three-migrant-workers-on-Koh-Tao-for-30244607.html Edited October 2, 2014 by mataleo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mango66 Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Police confident to arrest suspects in Koh Tao murder in 2 days BANGKOK: -- Police are confident that they will be able to issue warrant for the arrest of or arrest the suspects in the September 15 murder of two British bakcpackers on Koh Tao in a few days, said Pol Lt-Gen Panya Mamen, acting assistant national police chief, said today. He disclosed that police had narrowed down the number of suspects to about ten who are to be requestioned. These ten suspects who include Thais, foreigners and Myanmar migrant workers were at the AC Bar on Koh Tao on the night of September 15 between midnight to 4.40 am of the following day. Pol Lt-Gen Panya said that although these group of suspects were not held in custody after they were once questioned they are being closely watched by plainclothes policemen to prevent them from escaping. He explained that these suspects were to be questioned again because police had obtained some evidences which he declined to disclose but which are linked to the forensic evidences. He said that police could not rush to conclude the case and had to pursue the case carefully to make sure that the real culprit or culprits are apprehended. Pol Lt-Gen Panya also dismissed as groundless an allegation made by one suspect, Pornprasit Sukdam, that he was tortured by police to implicate others of being the suspects in the murder. (Photo : ThaiPBS file) Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/police-confident-arrest-suspects-koh-tao-murder-2-days/ -- Thai PBS 2014-10-02 maybee police watch them now and expect the culptries will try to flee the iland - ( or they want to make them nervous, maybee they can scan their phonecalls now ? or to get a cigarett stump for an avoided DNA test ? ) so that would be than another evidence to catch the right ones in flagantry! lets give the chance to proof this theorie ; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mataleo Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 British ambassador follows up Ko Tao murder investigation http://www.mcot.net/site/content?id=542d03c6be0470a0d38b45c5#.VC0Yr4GM7qC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mataleo Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Entrance fee to Koh Tao http://www.nationmultimedia.com/breakingnews/Tourists-may-be-required-to-pay-entrance-fee-for-v-30244592.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mango66 Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Why is the British Foreign Office not getting more involved in this? Why is the Government just letting events pass by day after day without stamping on the police who by every measure are not performing and the stench of corruption is overpowering? Where are morals and professionalism? Where is JUSTICE!!!!!!! I am not a british, but I suppose most of our countrys politican just thinking: stay in home and it would not happen to you ! are they right ? do we pay any extra money for this, that when we travell abroad, that our GVT also should be responsible for us in any other country ? Isn't it same with your health insurance ( exident insurance ? ) You have to pay extra for this service ! Hidden many times, but most times you have to pay extra for any service, so why in principle our Gvts should be responsible for policeinvestigation or what ever for a service outside of your home country if you not pay for it ? Need documents from your embassy, any consular service - you have to pay; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mango66 Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 I do find it strange that the friend's that were with both victims on the fateful night have made no public statements on their arrival back in the UK. Maybe they are waiting until after the funerals are held or maybe be the British police are involved. If there were problems in the AC bar that night they would be aware and they could also identify other suspects/ witnesses i.e. the student allegedly studying hard in Bangkok. you are right ! Where are all this foreign wittnesses ? Do they feel guilty in some way ? And they just thin king close the eyes and ears and you not been there ? What really happened there in ACB this evening ? I guess they know more and fear to be a part of ..... Where is their civil character and curage ? Where is Sean McAnna ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim walker Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 police patrolling the area 24 hours a day as a surveillance measure to ensure the safety of tourists. What a relief that will be to the tourists to know once you have been murdered these crack police officers will be right there to walk and trample all over the crime scene and give any suspects plenty notice so they can pop over to Singapore for a final holiday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upsidedown Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 I just got an idea for a new TV hit show. CSI Thailand. Wow what a story line. Would make the US series look like such a farce. We can get all the story lines out of Thai newspapers. Even filming the pilot would be so much fun we could hire real cops and real crims they are such great script writers. The endings are going to be tough though .....to be continued next week. Checkout CSI LA on Facebook these guys ask some real good probing questions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fabphil Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 and so it goes on & on & on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucaswallachia Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 I do find it strange that the friend's that were with both victims on the fateful night have made no public statements on their arrival back in the UK. Maybe they are waiting until after the funerals are held or maybe be the British police are involved. If there were problems in the AC bar that night they would be aware and they could also identify other suspects/ witnesses i.e. the student allegedly studying hard in Bangkok. you are right ! Where are all this foreign wittnesses ? Do they feel guilty in some way ? And they just thin king close the eyes and ears and you not been there ? What really happened there in ACB this evening ? I guess they know more and fear to be a part of ..... Where is their civil character and curage ? Where is Sean McAnna ?? Sean deleted his Facebook, and the last video he posted to his Google+ / YouTube account was 3 weeks ago, on the 7th September, so i'm guessing if after a couple of months there is no new updates and no one can find any news about him then there probably should be concern that it might be his body that was found off of Koh Samet. https://plus.google.com/101768055405292405319/videos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slygeeza Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Why are there no farang witnesses who were in AC Bar at the time ? maybe there were, do you really think they should post on thaivisa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPB65 Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Why are there no farang witnesses who were in AC Bar at the time ? maybe there were, do you really think they should post on thaivisa? It was a rhetorical question, but in answer to yours which I assume isn't then no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DISKO Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 A police source told the Bangkok Post that detectives were looking for three men who shopped at a convenience store near Sairee Beach where the pair were killed. Captured on security cameras, the trio bought one item later found discarded. The source said DNA recovered from that package matched that found at the crime scene. Condom It was a milk carton they found at the scene with matching dna, it was purchased at the convenience store on sairee with cctv ( 3 people) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOZMO Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Fingers crossed they mean it this time and have the right people. One can only hope Wrong guess!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambum Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 "Arrest warrant for Koh Tao murder suspect to be Issued in 3 days""Police confident to arrest suspects in Koh Tao murder in 2 days" (Both items copied and pasted from today's Thai Visa News Page) Why bother waiting for 3 days to issue an arrest warrant, when the the Police have "confidently" arrested the suspects the day before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mataleo Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 They detai.ed 3 migrant workers "Important evidence" includes 1 suspect buying same brand of cigarette as ciggy butt at crime scene & 1 dyed his hair from blond to black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mataleo Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 http://www.matichon.co.th/news_detail.php?newsid=1412243500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckamuck Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 So they caught the guys because one of them threw out a milk container? Did the cops test the DNA on all the litter that day or just this one milk carton?. Did they they wait at least 48 hours to get a proper DNA result before arresting the litterers? Seems quite extraordinary Makes no difference now though, they got their confession. I sure hope Britain insists on DNA samples of all the Patsys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smotherb Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Why are there no farang witnesses who were in AC Bar at the time ? You know damn well the farangs are biased; they will always blame the Thais. Maybe it's because farangs understand the concept of justice and that scares the hell out of people here. I should have stated that my question was actually rhetorical. And mine was facetious, should I have stated that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slipperx Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 Why is the British Foreign Office not getting more involved in this? Why is the Government just letting events pass by day after day without stamping on the police who by every measure are not performing and the stench of corruption is overpowering? Where are morals and professionalism? Where is JUSTICE!!!!!!! I am not a british,but I suppose most of our countrys politican just thinking: stay in home and it would not happen to you ! are they right ? do we pay any extra money for this, that when we travell abroad, that our GVT also should be responsible for us in any other country ? Isn't it same with your health insurance ( exident insurance ? ) You have to pay extra for this service ! Hidden many times, but most times you have to pay extra for any service, so why in principle our Gvts should be responsible for policeinvestigation or what ever for a service outside of your home country if you not pay for it ? Need documents from your embassy, any consular service - you have to pay; That would be because governments are distinct from businesses - justice is a universal concept divorced from money - except in Thailand of course where the governments are the main money brokers - maybe because in corrupt countries the worse corrupt people are the people at the top - it is a symptom of corruption if you take 20 seconds to think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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