Koh Tao murder suspects tell rights commission they were beaten

[kiwikeith]

How many weeks have passed now since they claim to have been beaten?

How long does anyone think a bruise will show?

My guess is their claims of torture will be a waste of time since no proof will be obtained due to the length of time it took to get anyone to try to verify it.

I did think I read that the Myannmar lawyer who first talked to them and got their statement of abuse took and took pictures of their bruises though. Yet I had only read it once and have not seen or read about those pics anymore? Lost in translation?

I read that as well a few weeks ago, Hasn't that lawyer been removed from the case.

How stupid is the eyes of the world, the suspects were out of circulation for about three weeks b4 the confessing.

So bruise go away and they not get beating.

[peecee]

'The police chief of Pha Ngan insisted there were no beatings and that the suspects had been represented by lawyers in accordance with Criminal Procedural Law"

So is he saying that there were lawyers present during the interrogation, because the National Police Chief said a while back that they didn't have lawyers at the interrogation because they never asked for lawyers. So once again conflicting qoutes from different police chiefs. You would think by now that these idiots could at least agree on some part of the lies they are telling.

Any defence barrister worth his salt must be licking their lips for this one! Oh sorry; I forgot this is Thailand, it's the needle for these poor boys!!

[joebrown]

So anybody think this could be more like the truth?

A massage from Koh Tao Burmese community

First of all, Thanks a million to CSI LA and fellow Thai friends for standing up for the Justice.

Some Burmese people in Koh Tao whispered that the murder was not happened on the beach, it was happened in the guest house where British couple were staying.

According to them, Nomsod and his fellow gangsters have harassed and molested the British girl in AC Bar and got fight with the girl, when the British girl has gone back to the guest house after fight, they followed and killed the boyfriend, raped the girl and killed her too. Altogether 5 people, Nomsod and 4 Thai Gangsters (one of them was rumored as a Thai policeman) who worked for his father were involved in the murder. After the murder, they carried the bodies to the beach which is 50 meters away from the guest house, staged as a couple were having sex on the beach and killed on the beach.

Two Burmese boys accused were also workers of one of Nomsod's father's businesses on the island, and they were playing a guitar on the beach when Nomsod and his gangsters carrying bodies, and Burmese workers were also asked to helped them carry the bodies too. Two Burmese have to do it because they scared of Nomsod and his gang and his father too. Which mean their DNA can be found on the bodies too. Which make them a perfect scapegoats.

The whole Koh Tao community knows about what really happened that night but everybody were scared of Nomsod's family and their gangsters and also the police thus nobody dare to speak out, Koh Tao Burmese were saying its not a secret that Nomsod family is making millions of bath for Thai police every month from many different illegal businesses on the island, and this case too, there was also a rumor that every Thai policeman involved in this case were already bribed handsomely by the Nomsod family.

The whole point of a message is to inform the Scotland Yard Police to focus on Nomsad and his thugs, AC Bar, Guest House, Sperm DNA inside the British Girl's womb and find a match. Not to trust on the 'murdered on the beach' fairy tale and tempered evidences and CCTVs on the whole island that are under the Nomsod's family influence.

This explanation of the events on Koh Tao 100% confirms why the local police never requested the attendance of forensic pathologists to carry out a thorough examination of the murder scene. Had they have done so they would have been placing nooses round their own necks!!

[ToddinChonburi]

Put a plastic bag over someones head and there is no marks. Terrifying feeling when you get no air, they would have confessed to anything to stop this barbaric act. Maybe the corrupt assh....le should have water boarded the two young lads. What a complete scam.

[Thaddeus]

Its interesting to me that NOT ONE THAI PERSON I HAVE TALKED TO BELIEVE THESE BOYS DID THE MURDER AND I LIVE HERE 36 YEARS .

Also all the foreigners feel the same way that this boys are fall guys for in competent police work.

Police are good people, and don't tell lie.

Rapist & Murderers are bad people, and I am not surprise that they willing to tell lie.

But what about when a policeman is the murderer?

You may need to think about that for a while, thinking may be a new experience for you, enjoy it.

[NativeSon360]

Those two Burmese boys have the lethargic faces of two kids resigned to that fact, that they're fated to get royally screwed, no matter what. We should all say some prayers of redemption for them. A real tragedy for their family's, in Burma .

Edited October 22, 2014 by NativeSon360

[NativeSon360]

Put a plastic bag over someones head and there is no marks. Terrifying feeling when you get no air, they would have confessed to anything to stop this barbaric act. Maybe the corrupt assh....le should have water boarded the two young lads. What a complete scam.

Those same "a--holes" also monitor this website. Why not give them even more "torture method" ideas, while you're TALKING. Duh!

[Nickymaster]

"Tourism police, tour operators and community leaders on Koh Tao yesterday held a meeting over what to do to boost tourist safety and provide better services.

The proposals included encouraging tourists to dress properly when not swimming or sunbathing, ask them not to commit intimate acts in public, as well as regulate taxi services and publishing do's and don'ts about Thai |culture on leaflets and in other media."

Is Thailand new Saudi arabia??

Koh Tao 2015

Amazing that this stupid post gets so many likes. Could be written by one of those disgusting British tabloids.

[Pattaya46]

Why not give them even more "torture method" ideas, while you're TALKING. Duh!

They really don't need us for that.

Just look on TV or YouTube the many documentaries on methods used by USA in their prisons.

I am pretty sure Thai Police methods look very amateurish compared to methods used in the West by Our Polices.

Edited October 22, 2014 by Pattaya46

[joebrown]

"Tourism police, tour operators and community leaders on Koh Tao yesterday held a meeting over what to do to boost tourist safety and provide better services.

The proposals included encouraging tourists to dress properly when not swimming or sunbathing, ask them not to commit intimate acts in public, as well as regulate taxi services and publishing do's and don'ts about Thai |culture on leaflets and in other media."

Is Thailand new Saudi arabia??

Koh Tao 2015

Amazing that this stupid post gets so many likes. Could be written by one of those disgusting British tabloids.

New Leaflet for tourists to Thailand reads....Do's & Dont's when visiting the Kingdom.....IMPORTANT :- Do not under any circumstance cause a Thai national to lose 'face', as you might be putting yourself in grave danger!

[Nowisee]

Those two Burmese boys have the lethargic faces of two kids resigned to that fact, that they're fated to get royally screwed, no matter what. We should all say some prayers of redemption for them. A real tragedy for their family's, in Burma .

Prayers? Really?

Change is not effected by praying, it's effected by doing something about it.

It takes a lot of brave people to stand up to the thugs and bullies, to beat them down and stand together. Doing nothing and giving into their corruption is weakness and perpetuates the crime.

Edited October 22, 2014 by Nowisee

[Sirbergan]

Those two Burmese boys have the lethargic faces of two kids resigned to that fact, that they're fated to get royally screwed, no matter what. We should all say some prayers of redemption for them. A real tragedy for their family's, in Burma .

Prayers? Really?

Change is not effected by praying, it's effected by doing something about it.

It takes a lot of brave people to stand up to the thugs and bullies, to beat them down and stand together. Doing nothing and giving into their corruption is weakness and perpetuates the crime.

Prayers fed Africa, didn't you know? They're all eternally full now.

It will be interesting to see if this is a cover-up or not, I hope the real truth will come out at some point. One thing is for certain, though - we're living in a country where justice is a privilege preserved for the rich and well-connected.

Edited October 22, 2014 by Sirbergan

[boomerangutang]

The Thai authorities should allow the British to independently test the two supects DNA and see if it matches with the DNA found on the two victims. But they won't allow that..Why????? One doesn't need a high IQ to know why!

It's at the stage now where even the DNA evidence taken from the victim is questionable. People herein assume the Brits took DNA independently, but did they really? I'll try to remain hopeful (that justice will be done). but it's getting harder in lieu of the combined force of Thai officialdom which is pushing hard for a frame-up.

[bannork]

In relation to the poster saying he'd heard that David and Hannah were murdered in their rooms, I thought both shared rooms with travelling companions, or were both room mates still out at 3 or 4.00 am when the murders took place? Surely other guests would have heard the commotion and what about all the blood found on the sand? The room(s) would have been in a terrible state, blood everywhere and I thought it was proved David died by drowning.

So much speculation, let's hope the truth will out, whatever it is.

[NativeSon360]

"Tourism police, tour operators and community leaders on Koh Tao yesterday held a meeting over what to do to boost tourist safety and provide better services.

The proposals included encouraging tourists to dress properly when not swimming or sunbathing, ask them not to commit intimate acts in public, as well as regulate taxi services and publishing do's and don'ts about Thai |culture on leaflets and in other media."

Is Thailand new Saudi arabia??

Koh Tao 2015

Amazing that this stupid post gets so many likes. Could be written by one of those disgusting British tabloids.

Consider the source levels. One would expect that you'd have ceased to be amazed, by now. Many posters, on this forum, spend their daily LOS lives, posting to each, and every little thread, no matter what the topic may be. They were the same way at home,

Back to the topic, The tourist police proposals are ridiculous, considering that improper dress, in Thailand, would be akin to blatant public nudity. A "dress properly" suggestion in Muslim Malaysia, would be understandable, but Thailand? Huh? LOS really needs to get itself unconstipated, as do those expats who gave a "thumbs-up" to those proposals.

Edited October 24, 2014 by NativeSon360

[MJP]

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I'll just keep removing them and then start pulling posting rights . . . not something I want to do.

Thank you.

[T_Dog]

So anybody think this could be more like the truth?

A massage from Koh Tao Burmese community

First of all, Thanks a million to CSI LA and fellow Thai friends for standing up for the Justice.

Some Burmese people in Koh Tao whispered that the murder was not happened on the beach, it was happened in the guest house where British couple were staying.

According to them, Nomsod and his fellow gangsters have harassed and molested the British girl in AC Bar and got fight with the girl, when the British girl has gone back to the guest house after fight, they followed and killed the boyfriend, raped the girl and killed her too. Altogether 5 people, Nomsod and 4 Thai Gangsters (one of them was rumored as a Thai policeman) who worked for his father were involved in the murder. After the murder, they carried the bodies to the beach which is 50 meters away from the guest house, staged as a couple were having sex on the beach and killed on the beach.

Two Burmese boys accused were also workers of one of Nomsod's father's businesses on the island, and they were playing a guitar on the beach when Nomsod and his gangsters carrying bodies, and Burmese workers were also asked to helped them carry the bodies too. Two Burmese have to do it because they scared of Nomsod and his gang and his father too. Which mean their DNA can be found on the bodies too. Which make them a perfect scapegoats.

The whole Koh Tao community knows about what really happened that night but everybody were scared of Nomsod's family and their gangsters and also the police thus nobody dare to speak out, Koh Tao Burmese were saying its not a secret that Nomsod family is making millions of bath for Thai police every month from many different illegal businesses on the island, and this case too, there was also a rumor that every Thai policeman involved in this case were already bribed handsomely by the Nomsod family.

The whole point of a message is to inform the Scotland Yard Police to focus on Nomsad and his thugs, AC Bar, Guest House, Sperm DNA inside the British Girl's womb and find a match. Not to trust on the 'murdered on the beach' fairy tale and tempered evidences and CCTVs on the whole island that are under the Nomsod's family influence.

Where did this appear? Is there a link? Would be good to post that as the case moves toward trial. Thailand still has a chance to do the right thing.

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