DNA results from Ko Tao village head’s son don't match traces on slain British tourists

[Lite Beer]

DNA results from Ko Tao village head’s son don't match traces on slain British tourists
By Digital Content

BANGKOK, Nov 1 -- The Royal Thai Police on Saturday said the DNA test results from the son of a Ko Tao village head released by four Bangkok hospitals did not match DNA traces on evidence obtained at the scene of the September murders of two British tourists, according to a police spokesman.


Spokesman Pol Lt Gen. Prawut Thavornsiri said DNA results taken from blood tests and mouth swabs of Warot Tuwichian, son of Woraphan, a Ko Tao village headman on the Gulf of Thailand resort island, did not match evidence and DNA of a cigarette stub collected from the island's beach and from Hannah Victoria Witheridge, one of the two British victims.

The bodies of Miss Witheridge, 23, and David William Miller, 24, were found on a Ko Tao beach on September 15. Both were murdered, and Miss Witheridge was also raped.

Pol Lt Gen Prawut said DNA tests was also conducted on Mr Woraphan, to make sure that he and Mr Warot are father and son and the results showed that they are.

DNA results from the four state hospitals in Bangkok -- Police General Hospital, Ramathibodi Hospital, Siriraj Hospital and Chulalongkorn Hospital -- now show that the two men are not involved with the murders and so it is unnecessary to forward the DNA results to the British government because it had no doubt about the investigation being conducted by the Thai police, said Pol Lt Gen Prawut.

Both men opted to take the DNA tests in a bid to dispel persisting rumours in the social media that the younger man was probably involved in the murders. (MCOT online news)

-- TNA 2014-11-01

[changnaam]

Interesting that they are so convinced the results are correct that they do not need UK to assist.

Wonder what the visiting police think about that?

[Metapod]

"so it is unnecessary to forward the DNA results to the British government"

so this basically confirms the tests were bullshit.

[Gunna]

"so it is unnecessary to forward the DNA results to the British government"

so this basically confirms the tests were bullshit.

Just need DNA tests without RTP involvement

[JOC]

"So it is unnecessary to forward the DNA results to the British government because it had no doubt about the investigation being conducted by the Thai police, said Pol Lt Gen Prawut."

Anyone still believing in any of this BS??

[Commerce]

This only proves 1 thing. The samples taken do not match with the master sample handed over by the BIB - WHICH nobody knows for sure where AND FROM WHOM it came from.

Thus, in effect, it proves NOTHING, ZERO, ZILCH, RIEN, NADA!

[JOC]

What about doing some actual police-work??

Since the dear innocent boy here is a gang-leader, what about testing his gang!!

Or are they included in the "amnesty" as well??

[Commerce]

"So it is unnecessary to forward the DNA results to the British government because it had no doubt about the investigation being conducted by the Thai police, said Pol Lt Gen Prawut."

Anyone still believing in any of this BS??

I'd hazard a guess, seeing as it only took 24 hours, that they were only completing a 'paternal' DNA test, as in-depth multiple screening and matching in a murder case, to get things deeply right, normally takes 3 to 4 days, at best. I also don't believe they have the capacity to complete such a thorough DNA test in Thailand, and thus no need to forward to British Police, because they'd tear the test to pieces. But we all knew this anyway.

[StealthEnergiser]

This is where the problem is and the police making statements like this thinking that they are talking to an uneducated audience.

The simple fact is Thailand police have a very bad record for being corrupt.

How the hell can the tests be verified without The uk confirming whose DNA is actually on the bodies or how was put on there .

and if it is DNA from the 2 burmese is it possible that dna was put on another way or forciblly.

What was a person that was accused doing on the crime scene ?

What was a general practioner doctor doing on the crime scene with gloves on what did he touch ?

To many questions because of one reason only Corruption and most people like my self want to be certain before these young boys are innocent or guilty before being jailed for life.

The uk must get involved and fully invesigate the DNA .

[bruceybonus]

This complicity must go right to the top! Outrageous really that a country can stick two fingers up to the international community & get away with it. Only sanctions from the UK, and a tourist blacklist will make these creatures take any notice

[ChrisY1]

There are so many people that believe this whole episode is a complete sham......including me.

The RTP appear overly enthusiastic to have these results in the media as soon as possible to "prove" there investigations.........and to have a press meeting, with the father and son at the table, indicates to me that they are desperate to convince all, that they are right.

[NongKhaiKid]

Yet again a claim made on behalf of an another govt ?

Thai officialdom are really into that these days and it will only get worse until diplomacy gets thrown out of the window and the countries involved start banging the table.

[falangjim]

His name is Worat Tuwichien aka Nomsod. That is the name of Ko Tao Headman's (whatever the hell that means) son. Nomsod was the person tested for DNA in the murder of two Britons back in September.

[KunMatt]

I've been to many countries with blatant in your face corruption but this case is really in another league. I'm ashamed to say I live here and I cannot wait to leave and take my wife and kids away from all of this.

[NongKhaiKid]

There are so many people that believe this whole episode is a complete sham......including me.

The RTP appear overly enthusiastic to have these results in the media as soon as possible to "prove" there investigations.........and to have a press meeting, with the father and son at the table, indicates to me that they are desperate to convince all, that they are right.

The BP website carried a picture of the son holding up the finger from which blood was taken and a doctor / medical technician displaying the paper used to collect the blood.

Pure theatre and childish but totally in keeping with the way things are done.

[draftvader]

Them saying it doesn't make people believe it. Wonder how that report is going to read?

Edited November 1, 2014 by draftvader

[bruceybonus]

Wouldn't it be amazing if in a few weeks/month the British govt suddenly play a trump card and blow the Thai faces out of the water. Slowly slowly catchee monkey!

Is there anyway that anybody can find out if we (UK) have DNA evidence from the victims?

Were they embalmed? Surely somebody must know this? If they were not embalmed then the Uk have forensics that can pick out alll sorts of DNA, including touch DNA

[hoyism]

"so it is unnecessary to forward the DNA results to the British government because 'it had no doubt' about the investigation being conducted by the Thai police, said Pol Lt Gen Prawut."

where is the press release from the British Government confirming this?

and if they 'have no doubt' then why have they sent officers all the way to Thailand to monitor the investigation?

[bruceybonus]

There are so many people that believe this whole episode is a complete sham......including me.

The RTP appear overly enthusiastic to have these results in the media as soon as possible to "prove" there investigations.........and to have a press meeting, with the father and son at the table, indicates to me that they are desperate to convince all, that they are right.

The BP website carried a picture of the son holding up the finger from which blood was taken and a doctor / medical technician displaying the paper used to collect the blood.

Pure theatre and childish but totally in keeping with the way things are done.

To be fair the whole society is based on childish behaviour etc. Just look at the tv, with all the boings and stuff. ALL thai channels are snowed out in my house. Unwatchable dirge imo

[timewilltell]

Sometimes I play a game with my kids - comparing two pictures and circling the differences, sometimes They complete and play a face off and see who finds all the differences first. Dad is the final word on any arguments.

The police 'advertisement' with the wonderful family from Koh Tao beside some of Thailand's finest drew a parallel. Where one child comes up with a single picture of all 8 differences and the other child cries foul.

The losing child then says but dad he only has the picture with his circles and not the comparison picture. When asked where the comparison picture is he replies 'I don't need it because Dad said I am a good boy.' Of course Dad said nothing of the sort and the losing son is smart enough to know a load of bull when he hears it. Dad suitably castigated the devious child. It is a shame the same morals do not apply to countries.

[bannork]

"So it is unnecessary to forward the DNA results to the British government because it had no doubt about the investigation being conducted by the Thai police, said Pol Lt Gen Prawut."

Anyone still believing in any of this BS??

It would be nice of them to forward the results to the UK authorities so the British can compare the DNA to any samples they managed to collect from Hannah's body.

[Local Drunk]

Them saying it doesn't make people believe it. Wonder how that report is going to read?

He didn't do it is how...

[Commerce]

This complicity must go right to the top! Outrageous really that a country can stick two fingers up to the international community & get away with it. Only sanctions from the UK, and a tourist blacklist will make these creatures take any notice

I'd prefer to see full international sanctions against Thailand for that matter. It would hardly affect us who live here, but it would certainly affect KTao and this pair of corrupt, ugly, lying bastards, and the son, for that matter.

[Fat Haggis]

How come the second set of DNA from the accused wasn't done as quickly as this one and the results released with the same enthusiasm ??

[Bluespunk]

You know, it could just be that he didn't do it.

However no matter what the BIB do, there is always a certain aroma, a bad feeling, attached to it.

The only way many people are going to accept DNA results is if they are not involved.

That is overseas.

Can't see it happening though.

Edited November 1, 2014 by Bluespunk

[templedog]

"so it is unnecessary to forward the DNA results to the British government"

so this basically confirms the tests were bullshit.

dude.....be careful....you very well may be arrested for speculating or criticizing this investigation under the Draconian Computer Crimes Act.....better known as the censorship and keep your effin mouth shut.....act

[templedog]

There are so many people that believe this whole episode is a complete sham......including me.

The RTP appear overly enthusiastic to have these results in the media as soon as possible to "prove" there investigations.........and to have a press meeting, with the father and son at the table, indicates to me that they are desperate to convince all, that they are right.

The BP website carried a picture of the son holding up the finger from which blood was taken and a doctor / medical technician displaying the paper used to collect the blood.

Pure theatre and childish but totally in keeping with the way things are done.

To be fair the whole society is based on childish behaviour etc. Just look at the tv, with all the boings and stuff. ALL thai channels are snowed out in my house. Unwatchable dirge imo

BOING!!!!!

[Bluespunk]

"DNA results from the four state hospitals in Bangkok -- Police General Hospital, Ramathibodi Hospital, Siriraj Hospital and Chulalongkorn Hospital -- now show that the two men are not involved with the murders and so it is unnecessary to forward the DNA results to the British government because it had no doubt about the investigation being conducted by the Thai police, said Pol Lt Gen Prawut."

Wanna bet?

The UK press will be all over this.

There's an election coming up.

One the Tories could very well lose and see their treacherous coalition partners destroyed as a political entity.

They will do whatever it takes to get favourable ratings.

And good press.

[bruceybonus]

"DNA results from the four state hospitals in Bangkok -- Police General Hospital, Ramathibodi Hospital, Siriraj Hospital and Chulalongkorn Hospital -- now show that the two men are not involved with the murders and so it is unnecessary to forward the DNA results to the British government because it had no doubt about the investigation being conducted by the Thai police, said Pol Lt Gen Prawut."

Wanna bet?

The UK press will be all over this.

There's an election coming up.

One the Tories could very well lose and see their treacherous coalition partners destroyed as a political entity.

They will do whatever it takes to get favourable ratings.

And good press.

Is this a big enough story in the uk to sway votes?

[Commerce]

You know, it could just be that he didn't do it.

However no matter what the BIB do, there is always a certain aroma, a bad feeling, attached to it.

The only way many people are going to accept DNA results is if they are not involved.

That is overseas.

Can't see it happening though.

The 'other paper' says the DNA didn't match the semen found in Hanna. It seems that is all it was tested for, and not tested against any other DNA from the crime scene.

What about the cigarette butt, the blood from the hoe, and the rest of the trampled upon evidence, and the condom? Very carefully selected screening, and placement of samples that would not of course match with a sample that does not even match the victims in the first place. It's not over until the fat lady sings..... mind you, he is.... but he's not singing, he's screaming from the roof tops down - we don't need international help because we know what we are doing.... covering up... and don't you muck up my personal financial gains - you British farang know how good we are, we are telling you you told us so right now!