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Boxclever, on 24 Nov 2014 - 10:27, said:

More trumped up charges against anyone appointed by the previous democratically elected government. This totalitarian regime will stop at nothing to consolidate their power. Disgusting! smile.png

Thats a powerful statement. Obviously you have all the evidence on hand.

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Strip them of every baht that they, their immediate family, and their domestic helpers own,

be it properties, chattels and goods, leave them with only a short to their bodies,

throw them all in jail, not in-active posts, and throw away the keys and maybe, just maybe,

the message will sink in...

Are they not entitled to a fair trial first, or is that concept just pinko liberal nonsense now?

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More trumped up charges against anyone appointed by the previous democratically elected government. This totalitarian regime will stop at nothing to consolidate their power. Disgusting! smile.png

Ha Ha we forgot your regime (disgraced) never did wrong did they ?? disgusting

Don't you know, the only reason Thaksin stays in the desert is- he was tired walking on water

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More trumped up charges against anyone appointed by the previous democratically elected government. This totalitarian regime will stop at nothing to consolidate their power. Disgusting! smile.png

Ha Ha we forgot your regime (disgraced) never did wrong did they ?? disgusting

Yes the previous government was disgusting like the one before them and one before them etc. But the last one was elected. On the subject of corruption, your dear great leader promised us he will give all the details how he got to own more than B 500 million in assets (before he gave most to family). We are however still waiting, but we understand he is a busy man and don't have much time for our mere mortals. Let me however do some sums for you from the facts we have. Your dear great leader had about 40 years service, he didn't inherit the money (he gave his parents about B 290 million), he had a salary at the end of his career of B 1,4 million. To get to this asset value he had to invest B 1 million per annum for the 40 years and receive a 10% per annum return on his investments over the 40 year period. This is however impossible as he started out in the lower ranks and 40 years ago was earning a few Baht a month. So we please need to know where his assets came from and we please need to see his tax returns to see that he paid tax on his income from outside sources. Digusting go both ways, but you need to have a balanced view to see that.

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More trumped up charges against anyone appointed by the previous democratically elected government. This totalitarian regime will stop at nothing to consolidate their power. Disgusting! smile.png

And the one billion bath found, was saved from the salary....

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"Pol Col Akrawut died last Thursday after falling from high building after admitting guilt to investigators."

Nothing fishy there.

Interesting little side note I read elsewhere:

the family took the body a day later at 13:30 in reception and cremated the body only half an hour later. Normally, a funeral ceremony lasts three days ...

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More trumped up charges against anyone appointed by the previous democratically elected government. This totalitarian regime will stop at nothing to consolidate their power. Disgusting! smile.png

WOW! Just as they stashed billions of baht and gold and other valuables right?

Jeez!

Get out some OK.... Maybe it is a dictatorship right now but I seriously doubt they would go through so much trouble to get rid of a few cops.

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"Pol Col Akrawut died last Thursday after falling from high building after admitting guilt to investigators. (MCOT online news)" People are now being murdered!

Their is a cleanup going on and the money is shifted to another group of police officers that are loyal to the current regime. What is going on now is Cops killing Cops.

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More trumped up charges against anyone appointed by the previous democratically elected government. This totalitarian regime will stop at nothing to consolidate their power. Disgusting! smile.png

And the supposed political enemies of the CIB boss placed 1 billion or billions of baht of Thai and U.S. money in his house, along with the gold and amulets and land deeds, while he was away at work, unbeknownst to everyone???

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"Pol Col Akrawut died last Thursday after falling from high building after admitting guilt to investigators. (MCOT online news)" People are now being murdered!

Do you have any factual evidence to support that? Or just spouting off?

One thing, 3,500 were murdered without any kind of trial under an "elected" PM's initiative. That is fact.

Of course many of those dealers had to be executed. 4 of those 3500 deserved it in our village and they shipped kilos to Malaysia via Yala from Wang Sam Mo.

The list was also given by the village headman's (PYB)

Our house was pained NO DRUGS - white), red was a drug addict and the black spots on the house was a warning to stop dealing in drugs.

Many chose to continue selling drugs and many had a deal with either the police, border police or army so they had to be killed to protect the top.

BTW The Black teams still came to our village four - five years ago and this was under the Abhisit government.

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Extended detention expected for ex-CIB chief, accomplices
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BANGKOK, Nov 24 -- Police brought Pol Lt Gen Pongpat Chayapan, former commissioner of the Central Investigation Bureau, and seven others charged with serious offences including lese majeste, accepting bribes and to the Criminal Court in Bangkok for an extended detention order.

Armies of local and foreign journalists waited to cover their presence at the court on Ratchadaphesek Road.

The eight suspects were charged with lese majeste and collecting bribes and are liable to life imprisonment and the death penalty.

Police also arrested a couple identified as Chob Chinaprapha and his wife Tiyaphan last night.

They were alleged accomplices of Pol Lt Gen Pongpat and were being interrogated.

Another suspect, Sawong Moongthiang, told police she would turn herself in today while Roengsak Saknarongdet remains at large.

National police chief Pol Gen Somyot Poompanmoung ordered serious disciplinary investigation against all police officers involved in the case within 30 days.

Senior police officers in the case would be detained at the Bangkok Remand Prison separately from other inmates who may have become their enemies during their past crime suppression roles.

Justice Minister Paiboon Khoomchaya said the Department of Special Investigation would consider if it should take over the case and the Anti-Money Laundering Office planned to seize the assets of the suspects.

Deputy Prime Minister/Defence Minister Prawit Wongsuwon refused to elaborate on the case. He only quoted Pol Lt Gen Pongpat as admitting to receiving bribes from oil smugglers in the South. (MCOT online news)

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Senior police officers in the case would be detained at the Bangkok Remand Prison separately from other inmates who may have become their enemies during their past crime suppression roles.

Past crime suppression? What crime suppression????

The charges against the various officers would seem to suggest they were in quite different businesses.

Who knows... they might actually feel quite at home.

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Sometimes I am reminded of U.S. current political back and forth when reading the red/yellow points here. Look, cut through the retoric...what is the issue? It is widespread corruption endemic in Thai society. OK, now go, how to solve the issue? How to catch up with those, still living, who have money in cash, and most importantly, I think, spread out in property investments that have been easier to hide than any bank accounts or more easily traced "paper trails"? Or do we say, ah, the problem is too large even to attempt to address?

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More trumped up charges against anyone appointed by the previous democratically elected government. This totalitarian regime will stop at nothing to consolidate their power. Disgusting! :)

Well said.

but now that you have said it , be careful of tall buildings. Maybe the guy who fell off fingered a few that they wanted to keep in the loop.

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More trumped up charges against anyone appointed by the previous democratically elected government. This totalitarian regime will stop at nothing to consolidate their power. Disgusting! smile.png

Ha Ha we forgot your regime (disgraced) never did wrong did they ?? disgusting

Yes the previous government was disgusting like the one before them and one before them etc. But the last one was elected. On the subject of corruption, your dear great leader promised us he will give all the details how he got to own more than B 500 million in assets (before he gave most to family). We are however still waiting, but we understand he is a busy man and don't have much time for our mere mortals. Let me however do some sums for you from the facts we have. Your dear great leader had about 40 years service, he didn't inherit the money (he gave his parents about B 290 million), he had a salary at the end of his career of B 1,4 million. To get to this asset value he had to invest B 1 million per annum for the 40 years and receive a 10% per annum return on his investments over the 40 year period. This is however impossible as he started out in the lower ranks and 40 years ago was earning a few Baht a month. So we please need to know where his assets came from and we please need to see his tax returns to see that he paid tax on his income from outside sources. Digusting go both ways, but you need to have a balanced view to see that.

OMG ! We would have never known he was a crook if it was not for you ! How can we ever thank you ???

(an extra dose of sarcasm for this one)

You just don't get do you ? You seem to think, for reasons known only to yourself, than any poster on TVF who does not "like" the Shinawatras is a yellow bellied, amart, hi-so, elite, Democrat, Suthep supporter (did I miss out on any ?) who thinks the Military and new government are squeaky clean etc etc etc.......................

Can you not get it through your thick skulls that we realize the present government was not "democratically elected" and may not be perfect...................................but............................... ANYTHING IS BETTER THAN THE SHIN REGIME !!!!! thumbsup.gif

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Game changer. Real consequences for the criminal acts of significant players. It's going to be very interesting when the shoe is on the other foot and Thaksin is back in charge. Up until now none of the big boys have had to worry about anything regardless of whichever side was in charge. This is a good indication that the military are in this until the bitter end and there'll be no compromises. I wonder if these guys will get an opportunity to spill their guts and reveal all they know or whether they'll all have gravity issues and end up with broken spines at the chest level and next day cremations.

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Off topic deflection posts have been removed as well as the replies. This is not about Thaksin's war on drugs.

This is not about Thaksin's war on drugs.

This is not about Thaksin's war on drugs.

This is not about Thaksin's war on drugs.

Oops, the needle got stuck.

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More trumped up charges against anyone appointed by the previous democratically elected government. This totalitarian regime will stop at nothing to consolidate their power. Disgusting! smile.png

Ha Ha we forgot your regime (disgraced) never did wrong did they ?? disgusting

Yes the previous government was disgusting like the one before them and one before them etc. But the last one was elected. On the subject of corruption, your dear great leader promised us he will give all the details how he got to own more than B 500 million in assets (before he gave most to family). We are however still waiting, but we understand he is a busy man and don't have much time for our mere mortals. Let me however do some sums for you from the facts we have. Your dear great leader had about 40 years service, he didn't inherit the money (he gave his parents about B 290 million), he had a salary at the end of his career of B 1,4 million. To get to this asset value he had to invest B 1 million per annum for the 40 years and receive a 10% per annum return on his investments over the 40 year period. This is however impossible as he started out in the lower ranks and 40 years ago was earning a few Baht a month. So we please need to know where his assets came from and we please need to see his tax returns to see that he paid tax on his income from outside sources. Digusting go both ways, but you need to have a balanced view to see that.

OMG ! We would have never known he was a crook if it was not for you ! How can we ever thank you ???

(an extra dose of sarcasm for this one)

You just don't get do you ? You seem to think, for reasons known only to yourself, than any poster on TVF who does not "like" the Shinawatras is a yellow bellied, amart, hi-so, elite, Democrat, Suthep supporter (did I miss out on any ?) who thinks the Military and new government are squeaky clean etc etc etc.......................

Can you not get it through your thick skulls that we realize the present government was not "democratically elected" and may not be perfect...................................but............................... ANYTHING IS BETTER THAN THE SHIN REGIME !!!!! thumbsup.gif

Sarcasm suites you just fine and reflects your ability to argue issues without getting personal.

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Sometimes I am reminded of U.S. current political back and forth when reading the red/yellow points here. Look, cut through the retoric...what is the issue? It is widespread corruption endemic in Thai society. OK, now go, how to solve the issue? How to catch up with those, still living, who have money in cash, and most importantly, I think, spread out in property investments that have been easier to hide than any bank accounts or more easily traced "paper trails"? Or do we say, ah, the problem is too large even to attempt to address?

I presented some ideas in post # . Here they are again:

1. Laws mandating transparency in government spending, including the military (excluding very limited, legitimate classified programs).

2. Laws mandating open competitive bidding on all government contracts, including military contracts.

3. Strict, and strictly enforced, laws against conflicts of interest for all government people, including those in the military.

4. Regular assets disclosures, including sources of wealth, for all government people, including those in the military.

5. Relaxation of libel and slander laws so the press can fulfill its proper function and report verifiable facts, even facts that embarrass the rich and powerful, without fear of retribution.

What do you think the chances are that laws like these will be part of the reforms?

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More trumped up charges against anyone appointed by the previous democratically elected government. This totalitarian regime will stop at nothing to consolidate their power. Disgusting! smile.png

Ha Ha we forgot your regime (disgraced) never did wrong did they ?? disgusting

Yes the previous government was disgusting like the one before them and one before them etc. But the last one was elected. On the subject of corruption, your dear great leader promised us he will give all the details how he got to own more than B 500 million in assets (before he gave most to family). We are however still waiting, but we understand he is a busy man and don't have much time for our mere mortals. Let me however do some sums for you from the facts we have. Your dear great leader had about 40 years service, he didn't inherit the money (he gave his parents about B 290 million), he had a salary at the end of his career of B 1,4 million. To get to this asset value he had to invest B 1 million per annum for the 40 years and receive a 10% per annum return on his investments over the 40 year period. This is however impossible as he started out in the lower ranks and 40 years ago was earning a few Baht a month. So we please need to know where his assets came from and we please need to see his tax returns to see that he paid tax on his income from outside sources. Digusting go both ways, but you need to have a balanced view to see that.

OMG ! We would have never known he was a crook if it was not for you ! How can we ever thank you ???

(an extra dose of sarcasm for this one)

You just don't get do you ? You seem to think, for reasons known only to yourself, than any poster on TVF who does not "like" the Shinawatras is a yellow bellied, amart, hi-so, elite, Democrat, Suthep supporter (did I miss out on any ?) who thinks the Military and new government are squeaky clean etc etc etc.......................

Can you not get it through your thick skulls that we realize the present government was not "democratically elected" and may not be perfect...................................but............................... ANYTHING IS BETTER THAN THE SHIN REGIME !!!!! thumbsup.gif

"Shouting" your opinions doesn't make them any more convincing. Can you not get it through your (I won't use your insulting term) head that many people prefer a flawed democracy to a military ************?

Of course ************ means an unelected junta that suspends the constitution, disbands all democratic institutions, imposes censorship, bans freedom of speech and association, holds people incommunicado without charge, rules by decree, etc. There's a word for this kind of government, but we're not allowed to use it.

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