Buying a new pcx

[Sooo Upto Me]

I have a Honda click at the moment but thinking of buying a new pcx as I will be doing a lot of mileage an mountains. Can anyone advise me if a pcx is a good option. I'm not into high powered bikes

Thanks.

[metisdead]

Moving to the Bikes forum.

[losworld]

Good option but your click should be fine if it is one of the alter 125cc models. Just increase your front tire one size up making it I believe a 90 width. It will handle much better and the engine is adequate for 100 km cruising. However, the pcx would be a more comfortable bike. The click 125 is actually faster than the pcx 125 so try to get a 150.

[DILLIGAD]

If he's after a NEW PCX then they are all 150.. Great bike!

[Xonax]

New PCX´s are now only 149cc to get a lower taxation. The previous PCX´s was 152cc.

[eisfeld]

New PCX´s are now only 149cc to get a lower taxation. The previous PCX´s was 152cc.

If it's only a slight bit of bore or stroke change and the rest remaining the same, I'd say you will not be able to notice the 3cc difference.

Compared to a Click, the PCX150 has a tad bit more power, is more comfy and feels more stable. All owers I've talked to like the bike.

[guzzi850m2]

+1 for pcx, I got the old 150 and I been very happy with it.

Likely the best Thai made small scooter, it's so smooth and quite comfortable for larger persons.

[martynsnowmans]

i, ve got a almost 5 year old 125 model and a new 150 they are both very good bikes , i had an airblade before

but like the PCX much more for a fat man . ( in udon thani last month new pcx was 79,000 )

[jamesjohnsonthird]

Perhaps a bike with a standard transmission is best for mountains.

There are discussions of break failure in the mountains in another pcx thread.

Apparently the brake fluid overheats going down big hills.

[ramrod45]

A couple of things to remember on the PCX. No flat board and no hook, so without a top box you'll have to either strap stuff on or rely on the under seat storage, which is pretty good but still has limitations. Most PCX models are governed to max out at 110kph, the Click will go faster. However, the PCX is more comfortable for longer rides. The new model has great lights, but the shocks are very weak, so I would recommend replacing them especially if you ride two up. I haven't really seen that much power difference between a Click and the PCX since the PCX weighs more. If you have longer legs the PCX seat is not comfortable, the rear ridge is just about where you want to sit, so getting a custom seat might also be in the works. Plus and minus for both models, but in terms of just comfort, the PCX rolls down the highway nicer.

[guzzi850m2]

On my pcx and with myself and wife on board we smoked a click with only one person on-board (motor bike taxi rider), we were riding up Tapaya road in Pattaya.

We were both going full wrack up the hill and when we stopped for red light the taxi rider asked if my bike is original, I answered yes and he gave me the thumps up. So we were loaded app 150 kg and the click perhaps 75kg and could go perhaps 5-10km/h faster in that situation, so it's not like I am flying by, he-he.

Yes there was a topic about the brakes overheating on a pcx with 2 people on board going down a steep mountain but first time I heard of this and if the brake fluid is too old it can cause brake failure. Any auto scooter can't obviously engine brake down hill as "normal" bikes can so something to consider and be alert about.

I wonder if any others had brake problems when riding in the mountains up in Chang Rai/Mai?

[seedy]

I wonder if any others had brake problems when riding in the mountains up in Chang Rai/Mai?

Technique will overcome the absence of engine braking on the downhills.

When you apply the brakes - squeeze hard. Get your speed down 5 to 10 kph. Then release brakes, coast down until speed is too great, and brake again.

This gives the brakes time to cool.

Old School truck drivers were taught that each second of brake application requires 6 seconds of cooldown time.

[MRYANG]

If u can afford it, the Honda Sh150i is a superior bike but 10k more expensive. Includes Givi-box though. 16", more power, better suspension - For longer rides it's not a competition because it also has a far better riding position.

[NickJ]

I just bought one a month ago. Great bike and very comfortable. Changed out the rear shocks........but the riding position takes a lot of weight of the wrists and the low back...you will be happy with it.....

[properperson]

i'm on my 3rd PCX...had one of the first that was made...

Can't fault it....

Prob the best all round scooter out there.

[AllanB]

I rode a PCX for a short while, it looks as though it should be very comfortable and was quiet and smooth, but I found it wearing on a long trip, say after 3/4 hour in the saddle. It was my mates bike and he found it useless 2 up (150kg combined), constantly bottoming out, again it looked capable but just wasn't. He sold it after a couple of months, so both of us found it disappointing, our 110cc Wave has never bottomed out even with 2 up and a ton of shopping, so there is a flaw with the PCX.

As for messing around with 1 second of braking and 6 seconds of brake cooling, yes, that is really handy in an emergency, this is not the 1950's, mountain roads and rubber bands don't mix.

It ain't that difficult using gears and 125cc is enough power.........

[NickJ]

You mentioned you were buying a new one, so it would be the new body style. They have changed the seat and the riding posistion is more comfortable comparrd to the older ones....like I wrote before I changed the shocks the next day.....

[seedy]

As for messing around with 1 second of braking and 6 seconds of brake cooling, yes, that is really handy in an emergency,

As said above - this is for trucks.

[guzzi850m2]

I rode a PCX for a short while, it looks as though it should be very comfortable and was quiet and smooth, but I found it wearing on a long trip, say after 3/4 hour in the saddle. It was my mates bike and he found it useless 2 up (150kg combined), constantly bottoming out, again it looked capable but just wasn't. He sold it after a couple of months, so both of us found it disappointing, our 110cc Wave has never bottomed out even with 2 up and a ton of shopping, so there is a flaw with the PCX.

As for messing around with 1 second of braking and 6 seconds of brake cooling, yes, that is really handy in an emergency, this is not the 1950's, mountain roads and rubber bands don't mix.

It ain't that difficult using gears and 125cc is enough power.........

Bullshit talk, it all depends what you use it for.

I use mine only for potting around Pattaya on, sometimes my wife goes too and it's perfect for that.

Spend app 3800 for YSS rear shocks and no more bottoming out (also app 150kg), no need to sell it and waste lots of money just because the rear shocks are too soft.

I don't ride it on the highways anymore, too dangerous, I want spare power out there so by the twist of the throttle I am gone on my V650.

I used to ride Wave's in Pattaya but got completely feed up with the gear changing down town, much more convenient with twist and go.

[BSJ]

My Yss XL shocks have had it after 18k. The springs are OK and the ride is still good but going over washboard roads on our way from Wang Plong to Wang Phup it was more skittish than normal. It's got almost 30k on the clock. If we were still in Pattaya it would have clocked 30k months ago but most times we go out now in the pick-up as there is alway a load of something to bring home!

I've had a minor problem with the front brake dragging and I took it into Sak Lek Honda....but of course they didn't have the part to fix it. It's a little valve set up that is part of the combo brakes.

There is a small fluid reservoir up under the bodywork, most folk wouldn't see, and when you pull the rear brake lever the central piston in the front caliper activates the front brake via the little valve. The central piston is applying the brake but when it gets hot it's not releasing until I bleed some fluid or pour water on the caliper to cool it.

So I said to the boys they should drain the fluid in the small reservoir to get us rolling again. No combo brake for now!

[wantan]

My Yss XL shocks have had it after 18k. The springs are OK and the ride is still good but going over washboard roads on our way from Wang Plong to Wang Phup it was more skittish than normal. It's got almost 30k on the clock. If we were still in Pattaya it would have clocked 30k months ago but most times we go out now in the pick-up as there is alway a load of something to bring home!

I've had a minor problem with the front brake dragging and I took it into Sak Lek Honda....but of course they didn't have the part to fix it. It's a little valve set up that is part of the combo brakes.

There is a small fluid reservoir up under the bodywork, most folk wouldn't see, and when you pull the rear brake lever the central piston in the front caliper activates the front brake via the little valve. The central piston is applying the brake but when it gets hot it's not releasing until I bleed some fluid or pour water on the caliper to cool it.

So I said to the boys they should drain the fluid in the small reservoir to get us rolling again. No combo brake for now!

How old is the bike? Did you ever replace brake fluid?

Problems with the brakes are always scary imo. Please keep us updated how you fixed it.

[MaeJoMTB]

Honda Wave (Dream?) 125i semi auto will kick the arse off a PCX all over the mountain, both off road and on.

Edited April 16, 2015 by MaeJoMTB

[Gweiloman]

Honda Wave (Dream?) 125i semi auto will kick the arse off a PCX all over the mountain, both off road and on.

So? Who cares? Want to go fast? Get a bigger bike. A scooter is for gentle riding and not designed for racing. I know there are sanctioned scooter races but on the whole, racing a scooter on the streets is asking for trouble.

[jamesjohnsonthird]

Why mess around with a PCX?

I tried the SH150 and it is light years ahead of the small Asian scooters.

Just sit on one at the showroom and you will instantly know it's the better machine. Could be a bit too tall for a short rider though.

[Gweiloman]

Honda Wave (Dream?) 125i semi auto will kick the arse off a PCX all over the mountain, both off road and on.

So? Who cares? Want to go fast? Get a bigger bike. A scooter is for gentle riding and not designed for racing. I know there are sanctioned scooter races but on the whole, racing a scooter on the streets is asking for trouble.

You've ridden a PCX on a mountain trail?

PCX is for fat lazy (elderly) foreigners, sort of like carpet slippers and hot cocoa.

Mountain trail as in MHS loop or Samoeng loop kind of thing? I prefer bigger bikes (500cc +) for those roads. PCX is great for short rides around the city, 7/11 that sort of thing

[samuijimmy]

God! .... No wonder I have not contributed to this Motor Bike forum in quite a while, with the nonsense that get posted....

My 125 cc PCX has been over all the mountain roads on Samui, all around the southern provinces of Thailand and most of Malaysia....

It's a good riding bike for short or long distance riding....

As for the breaking problem, on steep hills. the way to get around that is just stop for a few minutes, pump the brakes & rest & then good to continue....

If or when I trade up I would have no hesitation of moving up to 150 model....

[andrewrooney]

Personally I agree with those that said they'd prefer a manual bike if you're going to be doing a lot of riding in the mountains. PCX an ok scooter, good for cruising around town etc. but for mountain roads a bike with gears is more fun, plus you'll have the added benefit of engine braking. Then again some people just prefer automatics, and it all comes down to what you'll be doing with it.

[Shurup]

Honda Wave (Dream?) 125i semi auto will kick the arse off a PCX all over the mountain, both off road and on.

So? Who cares? Want to go fast? Get a bigger bike. A scooter is for gentle riding and not designed for racing. I know there are sanctioned scooter races but on the whole, racing a scooter on the streets is asking for trouble.

You've ridden a PCX on a mountain trail?

PCX is for fat lazy (elderly) foreigners, sort of like carpet slippers and hot cocoa.

Maybe OP is a fat and lazy elderly foreigner?