Speeding tickets Pattaya to BKK and back.

[RabC]

Considering that the national speed limit on the book is 90, setting the threshold for 120 and being fined 500-1000 baht is pretty lenient, in most civilized place being 30 over the limit is serious court/time behind bars offence

??????? The official speed limit on Highway 7 is 120km/h it is lowered to 90 in some places but to say the national limit is 90 is totally wrong.

Find me a piece of law that say 120 is okay, in practice, they'll be lenient upto 120 sure, and in Expressway systems in Bangkok, this can vary from 100-120 depending on the mood of the officer

the only traffic law I found is 1979 one, which was updated a few time since 80 in metropolitan area and 90 elsewhere

http://www.thailaw.com/thailaw3_24.pdf (in Thai)

So those huge roadside signs displaying speed limits for various types of vehicles alongside the highway aren't legal notices??????????

Also googling it says 120km/h for motorways but no copy of legislation.

If you do drive at 90 then move out of the middle lane and allow people to drive at the posted speed limit.

[luk AJ]

Considering that the national speed limit on the book is 90, setting the threshold for 120 and being fined 500-1000 baht is pretty lenient, in most civilized place being 30 over the limit is serious court/time behind bars offence

??????? The official speed limit on Highway 7 is 120km/h it is lowered to 90 in some places but to say the national limit is 90 is totally wrong.

Find me a piece of law that say 120 is okay, in practice, they'll be lenient upto 120 sure, and in Expressway systems in Bangkok, this can vary from 100-120 depending on the mood of the officer

the only traffic law I found is 1979 one, which was updated a few time since 80 in metropolitan area and 90 elsewhere

http://www.thailaw.com/thailaw3_24.pdf (in Thai)

So those huge roadside signs displaying speed limits for various types of vehicles alongside the highway aren't legal notices??????????

Also googling it says 120km/h for motorways but no copy of legislation.

If you do drive at 90 then move out of the middle lane and allow people to drive at the posted speed limit.

Nearly half of the way to Pataya is limited to 90 km/h.

[LennyW]

km42 on the highway BKK Pattaya

And Km 21 opposite the police station, this one is both ways.

That's the one that got me

The one opposite the police station is a guy standing on the pedestrian bridge, right in the middle, sometime they put up a picture of the King and hide behind that. I guess it's easy for them to just lug their equipment just halfway across the road from the office. If you see that the pedestrian bridge is clear, you're safe.

No it is not, it is a high up permanently mounted camera that captures both ways. Nobody standing on a bridge as there is no bridge there.

The cameras are mounted on the LED boards with traffic announcements. You have one close to Chachoengsao exit.

No they are not, not in this location at least.

[LennyW]

??????? The official speed limit on Highway 7 is 120km/h it is lowered to 90 in some places but to say the national limit is 90 is totally wrong.

Find me a piece of law that say 120 is okay, in practice, they'll be lenient upto 120 sure, and in Expressway systems in Bangkok, this can vary from 100-120 depending on the mood of the officer

the only traffic law I found is 1979 one, which was updated a few time since 80 in metropolitan area and 90 elsewhere

http://www.thailaw.com/thailaw3_24.pdf (in Thai)

So those huge roadside signs displaying speed limits for various types of vehicles alongside the highway aren't legal notices??????????

Also googling it says 120km/h for motorways but no copy of legislation.

If you do drive at 90 then move out of the middle lane and allow people to drive at the posted speed limit.

Nearly half of the way to Pataya is limited to 90 km/h.

To clarify, the speed limit on #7 is 120 Kmh, the 90 Kmh signs are advisory when approaching bends and humps.

[RabC]

To clarify, the speed limit on #7 is 120 Kmh, the 90 Kmh signs are advisory when approaching bends and humps.

Lenny I'd give up, someone has read a book and is an Authority on this matter..........................

[wprime]

If you take the Bang Na Trat, there are cameras in both directions on the western side of the Bang Na toll gate.

You will see a motorbike sitting near the policeman filming which gives you plenty of time to back off the speed. Note that they will book you for anything over 110km/h. Anything within the toll gates is fair game.

If you take the number 7, I haven't located the cameras but I know they're between the first and final toll gate so once you've passed the final one you can increase your speed. The limit is 120km/h.

Edited August 5, 2015 by wprime

[LennyW]

If you take the Bang Na Trat, there are cameras in both directions on the western side of the Bang Na toll gate.

You will see a motorbike sitting near the policeman filming which gives you plenty of time to back off the speed. Note that they will book you for anything over 110km/h. Anything within the toll gates is fair game.

If you take the number 7, I haven't located the cameras but I know they're between the first and final toll gate so once you've passed the final one you can increase your speed. The limit is 120km/h.

Again wrong, after you pass the second toll gate, heading to BKK, or before you reach the first one if heading to Pattaya, there is the 21Km one, mounted high up on a pole opposite the police station.

Edited August 5, 2015 by LennyW

[luk AJ]

km42 on the highway BKK Pattaya

And Km 21 opposite the police station, this one is both ways.

That's the one that got me

The one opposite the police station is a guy standing on the pedestrian bridge, right in the middle, sometime they put up a picture of the King and hide behind that. I guess it's easy for them to just lug their equipment just halfway across the road from the office. If you see that the pedestrian bridge is clear, you're safe.

No it is not, it is a high up permanently mounted camera that captures both ways. Nobody standing on a bridge as there is no bridge there.

The cameras are mounted on the LED boards with traffic announcements. You have one close to Chachoengsao exit.

Yes they are but up to you if you font believe. I use the motorway 2-3 times per week

No they are not, not in this location at least.

[luk AJ]

High on a pole? This is traffic camera not for speed.

[Basil B]

Speed restrictions have a purpose apart from revenue collection, and if they were enforcing the fines, then the traffic would slow down.

Maybe do as they do in the states issue arrest warrants for outstanding fines... get pulled for a minor traffic violation and the cop gets word of an outstanding ten year old warrant, get arrested and banged up until the next working day of the courts.

Edited August 5, 2015 by Basil B

[digbeth]

Although I believe the law said national speed limit is 90, I am not an old fart and would say that even 120 is too slow for the right lane... and in the eye of the police man, you'd be fine staying at 119 so in practice the speed limit is effectively at 120, enough of that though.

Another issue

Some Thais seem to believe that even though you got ticket in the mail and theoretically if you don't pay up your vehicle registration could be blocked upon renewal until you clear the outstanding ticket,

but that in fact the police's automated speed ticket system is not linked to the land transport office, and you'll be fine not paying the ticket.

But I've seen people blocked from renewing their tax at the land transport office for outstanding tickets too, but that seems to be for ticket that a policeman handed you personally like in traffic accident... so take that with a grain of salt maybe

[LennyW]

High on a pole? This is traffic camera not for speed.

Unfortunately I have two fines from said camera that conclusively prove otherwise, very definitely speed cameras mounted high on a pole, also clear to see the elevation of the camera from the pictures on the fine sheet.

[jay1980]

I have just found out that I have one of these fines for driving 129km/h, 500 baht.

Can anyone tell me where I can go to pay it over the counter somewhere in Jomtien or Pattaya, would rather just pay and get a receipt if possable.

Also do they put any points on your Thai licence? if so would I just be better off showing my international licence if asked?

Many thanks

[digbeth]

I have just found out that I have one of these fines for driving 129km/h, 500 baht.

Can anyone tell me where I can go to pay it over the counter somewhere in Jomtien or Pattaya, would rather just pay and get a receipt if possable.

Also do they put any points on your Thai licence? if so would I just be better off showing my international licence if asked?

Many thanks

Depending on where the ticket is from this will be written on the ticket, you can go to that police station in person to pay them, For the Motorways (Highway 7) this is almost in Bangkok, or if you get nicked on the way to Rayong on the 36, the highway police station on Sukhumvit between Central and South Pattaya is the place, for other roads, it's could be the local police station like Banglamung (which used to set camera up under the overpass from Chaiyapornvithi over the Hwy 7 extention to Pattaya, but don't anymore)

or take the letter to the post office and they'll sort you out by making a money order to the police station in question, and enclosing a return envelope for the receipt, which you should hold on to should there be hiccups in the system and your registration renewal is blocked.

I think post office is the best option, cause once I got a ticket on the highway 9 ring road around Bangkok and the police station is somewhere in Samut Prakarn that I wouldn't have a clue how to get there

[topt]

I have just found out that I have one of these fines for driving 129km/h, 500 baht.

Can anyone tell me where I can go to pay it over the counter somewhere in Jomtien or Pattaya, would rather just pay and get a receipt if possable.

Also do they put any points on your Thai licence? if so would I just be better off showing my international licence if asked?

Many thanks

Depending on where the ticket is from this will be written on the ticket, you can go to that police station in person to pay them, For the Motorways (Highway 7) this is almost in Bangkok, or if you get nicked on the way to Rayong on the 36, the highway police station on Sukhumvit between Central and South Pattaya is the place, for other roads, it's could be the local police station like Banglamung (which used to set camera up under the overpass from Chaiyapornvithi over the Hwy 7 extention to Pattaya, but don't anymore)

or take the letter to the post office and they'll sort you out by making a money order to the police station in question, and enclosing a return envelope for the receipt, which you should hold on to should there be hiccups in the system and your registration renewal is blocked.

I think post office is the best option, cause once I got a ticket on the highway 9 ring road around Bangkok and the police station is somewhere in Samut Prakarn that I wouldn't have a clue how to get there

Agree with PO and also no points to worry about.

[digbeth]

As for points on Thai driving licence, supposedly there are laws for it, but I've never seen that used or known anyone who had points deducted from their licence, there are 20 or 40 points infractions, and once you get to 60 points you have to sit in the 'education' class like when people are taking their first test.

And for the ticket fine, if you get one in the mail and don't pay up, the vehicle registration will be put on hold and you can't renew it when you pay the annual tax until the ticket is taken care of;

anecdotally, people who didn't pay up are fine as the police and land transport's office computers don't link up, or that some stations are too swamped with other important police works to have someone type in the unpaid traffic ticket offence into the 'hold registration' database.

Apparently just having people check and confirm on the computer that the car's registration photographed from the speed camera match the colour and make of the car on record is quite a workload enough, and there appears to be rampant faked/cloned numberplate problem where people get speeding tickets in place they never visited reported in the Thai media all the time too.

[marmaduke]

Coming back from Bkk today. Indeed Kilometer markers 21K and 42K were valid spots to beware. After the 42K there was an overpass with a cctv camera, some time before the final tolls. After the final toll I felt comfortable going a bit over the speed limit. Watched my speed going to BKK yesterday, and will report if I got a speed ticket on this day.

[balo]

I don't understand how you can get speeding tickets anyway , parts of the roads are so bumpy that 120 km/h is not a safe speed to drive in .

I just returned from a BKK trip this weekend and lots of idiot drivers on the road passing me in 140-160 km/h , I really hope they will get some heavy fines. Especially many of the pickup drivers who are idiots without brains.

Whats the rush anyway ? Drive around 100 km/h and you'll get to your destination only a few minutes later.

Edited August 9, 2015 by balo

[thailandforumaddict]

Agree with you !

Rushing on Thai road is stupid but if the limit is 90 are you sure that they won't catch you at 100 / 110 ?

I don't understand how you can get speeding tickets anyway , parts of the roads are so bumpy that 120 km/h is not a safe speed to drive in .

I just returned from a BKK trip this weekend and lots of idiot drivers on the road passing me in 140-160 km/h , I really hope they will get some heavy fines. Especially many of the pickup drivers who are idiots without brains.

Whats the rush anyway ? Drive around 100 km/h and you'll get to your destination only a few minutes later.

[thailandforumaddict]

And what if we never pay it ? If we never want to sell the car, no problem ?

Or just pay them at the time you sell the car ?

I have just found out that I have one of these fines for driving 129km/h, 500 baht.

Can anyone tell me where I can go to pay it over the counter somewhere in Jomtien or Pattaya, would rather just pay and get a receipt if possable.

Also do they put any points on your Thai licence? if so would I just be better off showing my international licence if asked?

Many thanks

Depending on where the ticket is from this will be written on the ticket, you can go to that police station in person to pay them, For the Motorways (Highway 7) this is almost in Bangkok, or if you get nicked on the way to Rayong on the 36, the highway police station on Sukhumvit between Central and South Pattaya is the place, for other roads, it's could be the local police station like Banglamung (which used to set camera up under the overpass from Chaiyapornvithi over the Hwy 7 extention to Pattaya, but don't anymore)

or take the letter to the post office and they'll sort you out by making a money order to the police station in question, and enclosing a return envelope for the receipt, which you should hold on to should there be hiccups in the system and your registration renewal is blocked.

I think post office is the best option, cause once I got a ticket on the highway 9 ring road around Bangkok and the police station is somewhere in Samut Prakarn that I wouldn't have a clue how to get there

[jay1980]

Paid at the post office, got receipt posted back to me a week or so later which I will keep with my blue book just in case.

The whole process of paying the fine was pretty easy, including the amount considering back in my home country a speeding ticket would be about 1000% more expensive 5555

Many thanks to digbeth and topt for the advise

[tropo]

I go to Bangkok every week and I have had 2 in the past 3 months, also 2 at km 139 on the way to Hua Hin and 1 going to Kanchanburi. all mailed and different fines from 800 to 2000 based on how fast i was going

You're lucky they haven't introduced a points system yet. One day they may, to stop habitual offenders who aren't inconvenienced too much by small fines.

You do realise that speed limits are there for a reason?... and that reason is not revenue collection.

You never know. Perhaps the insurance companies check for speeding and other tickets when claims are made. They're always searching for reasons not to pay. Maybe there's some small print on insurance contracts stating that you need to disclose this information when applying for insurance.

Edited August 23, 2015 by tropo

[MZurf]

"You do realise that speed limits are there for a reason?... and that reason is not revenue collection."

Tell that to the BIB who stop me and want hand-outs!

[impulse]

"You do realise that speed limits are there for a reason?... and that reason is not revenue collection."

Tell that to the BIB who stop me and want hand-outs!

If they stop you when you haven't done anything illegal, my heart goes out to you.

But I rarely read about that here on TVF. Usually, the poster did the deed but doesn't think that particular law was fair, or they should be able to break the laws without consequence because the locals do it...

[MZurf]

"You do realise that speed limits are there for a reason?... and that reason is not revenue collection."

Tell that to the BIB who stop me and want hand-outs!

If they stop you when you haven't done anything illegal, my heart goes out to you.

But I rarely read about that here on TVF. Usually, the poster did the deed but doesn't think that particular law was fair, or they should be able to break the laws without consequence because the locals do it...

You misunderstand me. I didn't say I hadn't done anything wrong. I was just making a joking remark to tropo's claim that the reason for the speed limits are not revenue generation (which, of course, is absolutely true) since in many/most instances it definitively creates a "revenue" for the BIB.

[Rimmer]

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[impulse]

You misunderstand me. I didn't say I hadn't done anything wrong. I was just making a joking remark to tropo's claim that the reason for the speed limits are not revenue generation (which, of course, is absolutely true) since in many/most instances it definitively creates a "revenue" for the BIB.

But I rarely read about that here on TVF. Usually, the poster did the deed but doesn't think that particular law was fair, or they should be able to break the laws without consequence because the locals do it...

Guilty as charged. I missed your meaning, and for that I apologize.

[MZurf]

You misunderstand me. I didn't say I hadn't done anything wrong. I was just making a joking remark to tropo's claim that the reason for the speed limits are not revenue generation (which, of course, is absolutely true) since in many/most instances it definitively creates a "revenue" for the BIB.

But I rarely read about that here on TVF. Usually, the poster did the deed but doesn't think that particular law was fair, or they should be able to break the laws without consequence because the locals do it...

Guilty as charged. I missed your meaning, and for that I apologize.

No worries, I'm used to it. My wife misunderstands me on a daily basis

[thailandforumaddict]

Hello,

Finally can we CLEARLY know how many speedcams between Pattaya and Bkk and where exactly ?

Thank you.

[Walter Travolta]

I received my first speeding ticket on July 5 traveling from Bangkok to Pattaya. Photo of my vehicle saying I was going 130. Gladly paid the Royal Thai Police 500 baht. This is my first camera speeding ticket! Having over 40,000 km I was glad to pay this small fine. I speed in Thailand as long as it safe to do so.

I was lucky that day,I only received one ticket, as most vehicles always travel over the maximum 120 kph. In the USA my ticket would be no less than 20 times the 500 baht fine. That's why most of the time we travel well above the speed limit as the fine is so small and the cost benefit allow us to speed. Wouldn't you agree?

I only speed when it safe, I typically travel at 3 am to drive from Pattaya to Chaiyaphum when the roads are typically free of congestion?

So you speed because the fines are cheap??? And you think Thailand is safe to speed at 3am???

What an absolute balloon you are. Its because of idiots like you that there are so many fatal accidents