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Don't be too hard on the lad, every Thailand newbie goes through the same stage.

He'll learn, same as I did, same as you probably did.

Some of us have been to Thai many times, some of us have lived in Thai extensively, some of us can speak read and write Thai and still keep our positives about the Thai people and culture. I agree with the original posters, keep the racism and the anti Thai anger and sentiment negatives to yourselves.

It gets so tiring to read all that anti Thai people stuff, made by so many posters here. First it was all about bitching how the Thai police would not catch the bombers, now its all about bitching they are catching too many? Can they do anything right in your minds?

If you do not like Thailand, the Thai people etc. Then why do you visit? Why do you live in Thailand? If it is such a terrible place, filled with such terrible people, then why not leave? Thailand will be a better place without you.

Peace : )) ...Venting over...(been saving that up for a few years)

Gerry

I agree with many things said but where did in these comments anyone talk bad about Thai PEOPLE. Thai people start talking about RTP the same way as some members on this forum. Unless someone might consider the vast majority of Thais not being Thais because they are unwanted poor farmers!

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And the announcement of the 11th will occur once further reward money is on offer!

An offer of a reward is pointless as it will only likely be paid to anyone other than the person giving the most helpful information. Offering of rewards is now a joke to the whole world and anything else watching from any other planet.

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"He said interrogation of Mr Karadag has been made via three interpretaters and the suspect confessed in Uighur language and named his accomplice."

And a new word enters the English language: interpretater - one who is both an interpreter and an interrogator.

No thats someone who interprets potatoes

clap2.gif I wonder how interpretaters taste fried? Maybe baked, boiled?

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Thai cop said to my Thai wife once after an auto accident committed by a psycho on a bike, speeding (no license/insurance)........"You must to pay 10,000 baht. Otherwise you have big problem. You have farang name. You married to farang. All farang have big money".

Our insurance took care of his broken leg/hospital bill, she was 1,000% legal. Still had to pay the piper though.

Guy was in the wrong lane too.

She HATES Thai cops, as do I.

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"He said interrogation of Mr Karadag has been made via three interpretaters and the suspect confessed in Uighur language and named his accomplice."

And a new word enters the English language: interpretater - one who is both an interpreter and an interrogator.

No thats someone who interprets potatoes

clap2.gif I wonder how interpretaters taste fried? Maybe baked, boiled?

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Thai cop said to my Thai wife once after an auto accident committed by a psycho on a bike, speeding (no license/insurance)........"You must to pay 10,000 baht. Otherwise you have big problem. You have farang name. You married to farang. All farang have big money".

Our insurance took care of his broken leg/hospital bill, she was 1,000% legal. Still had to pay the piper though.

Guy was in the wrong lane too.

She HATES Thai cops, as do I.

Oh my! You apparently don't love just everything about Thailand. You must leave! As for your wife, gee, the apologists never seem to address the "problem" of native Thais who don't love everything about their country, but she's associated with you, so I would suppose they'd say she'll have to go, too. One will be along shortly to clear that up, I'm sure.

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Obviously, there are going to be two sides to the debate about the fidelity of this bombing investigation, the effectiveness of the RTP, etc. But the apologists, ever agenda-driven, can't tolerate any two-sided discussion, and overlook no opportunity to yammer away at those whose comment isn't entirely positive and downright laudatory. Give a thumbs up or down to whatever theory or opinion one might wish, but why always, ineffably, inescapably, the love-it-or-leave-it thing from the apologists? It's tired. It's lame, It's repetitive. It's terminally presumptuous. It's simple-minded. And it's off-topic.

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Warrant sought for 10th shrine blast suspect
THE SUNDAY NATION

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Foreign suspect identified by the ruling junta as Adem Karadak is escorted by Thai commando units upon his arrival at the Court in Bangkok Saturday. AFP PHOTO / PORNCHAI KITTIWONGSAKUL

BANGKOK: -- Foreign man stayed with Adem Karadag, the first suspect arrested in Nong Chok a week ago; Adem moved to Min Buri Jail

POLICE are set to seek a warrant for the arrest of a tenth suspect in connection with last month's Erawan Shrine bombing, a source close to the investigation said yesterday.

Police investigators are likely to seek court permission to issue the warrant tomorrow, the source said.

The 10th suspect had stayed with a foreign man identified as Adem Karadag, who was the first suspect arrested in connection with the August 17 attack. Karadag was taken to Min Buri Prison yesterday.

The tenth suspect stayed at the same apartment as Karadag, who was nabbed on Saturday last week at a building in Bangkok's Nong Chok district.

"The earliest police can seek an arrest warrant for the tenth suspect is on Monday," the source said, adding that the police have a sketch of the man.

Royal Thai Police spokesman Lt-General Prawut Thavornsiri said yesterday that police had yet to identify the man's nationality or name. But they believed he was also involved with the bombing.

So far in the investigation, nine arrest warrants have been issued.

The Min Buri Provincial Court yesterday approved a police request for the detention of Karadag, who held a fake Turkish passport. He had been held and interrogated at a military base in Bangkok for the last week.

The suspect was brought to the court and sent to the prison under tight security by police and military personnel.

Karadag will be detained at Min Buri Prison for 12 days before the court has to decide again whether the detention period has to be extended.

Corrections Department director general Wittaya Suriyawong yesterday said Min Buri Prison director had told him the facility is crowded and has no solitary room for Karadag. Wittaya said he told the prison chief to take special care of the suspect while he is there.

He said that, if necessary, Karadag might be moved to Bang Kwang Prison or another maximum-security facility. In addition to Karadag, a second suspect identified by authorities as Chinese citizen Yusufu Mieraili was arrested on Tuesday near the Thai-Cambodian border.

DNA samples taken from this suspect - thought to have been the person who planted the bomb - did not match those found in a taxi, on a banknote and a backpack presumed to have carried the bomb. However, he was believed to be involved in the attack, police spokesman Prawut said.

His fingerprints matched those found on bomb-making materials in an apartment raided last weekend.

The results of fingerprints and DNA samples show that the prime suspect, who is seen in surveillance camera footage putting down a backpack and leaving the shrine few minutes before the explosion, is still at large.

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/national/Warrant-sought-for-10th-shrine-blast-suspect-30268223.html

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"He said interrogation of Mr Karadag has been made via three interpretaters and the suspect confessed in Uighur language and named his accomplice."

And a new word enters the English language: interpretater - one who is both an interpreter and an interrogator.

You made a joke, but seriously I suspect that you are right in that the likely "interpreters" were also probably interrogators flown in from China special for the task from MSS, their intelligence agency. They have specialists for many years in dealing with the Uighur "problem" who speak the Uighur dialect (though I'm sure the suspects also speak Mandarin), and they know which buttons to push to elicit information, such as family back home that are at risk.

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"He said interrogation of Mr Karadag has been made via three interpretaters and the suspect confessed in Uighur language and named his accomplice."

And a new word enters the English language: interpretater - one who is both an interpreter and an interrogator.

You made a joke, but seriously I suspect that you are right in that the likely "interpreters" were also probably interrogators flown in from China special for the task from MSS, their intelligence agency. They have specialists for many years in dealing with the Uighur "problem" who speak the Uighur dialect (though I'm sure the suspects also speak Mandarin), and they know which buttons to push to elicit information, such as family back home that are at risk.

It wasn't entirely meant to be just a joke - I had in mind the Koh Tao 'interpretater' and wonder what credibility may be given to a statement extracted under pressure of intensive interrogation. He would have been an amateur - if the MSS from China are involved here then that is a whole different ball game.

I don't think many would have seen the irony but you certainly did.

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Man I can't believe this place.1 sensible post and the rest complete childish nonsense.

Surely the important thing here is the police by whatever means possible catch every last one of these suspects and no one else suffers.

20 people died and all you can come up with is sick jokes about the police who seem to be doing a first class job.

If there's 12 or 12 dozen involved the more they lock up the better

"A first class job" ?

Your post will have to be included in the nonsense.

Why??? He's right. How long does it take police in Western countries to catch people behind such acts. Usually months or longer.

Thai police have caught persons and more on the way.

But you and so many TV posters just want to deride Thais and anything Thai.

Its getting that so many of the posters on TV are basically just full of racism and hate.

Perhaps the NCPO should look to closing TV down, a cesspool of anti-Thai sentiment.

You, of course, could close your account and not be subjected to the so called "racism and hate". Why not?

Fact is it is hard to believe what these cops say, after the constant noise they made the first week or 2.

Then when you consider that western police do take some time in these type of cases, as you yourself pointed out, one might ask: do they actually have the real suspects?

I'm wondering maybe all these new 'defenders of the realm' are the new click bait trolls?

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"He said interrogation of Mr Karadag has been made via three interpretaters and the suspect confessed in Uighur language and named his accomplice."

And a new word enters the English language: interpretater - one who is both an interpreter and an interrogator.

No thats someone who interprets potatoes

clap2.gif I wonder how interpretaters taste fried? Maybe baked, boiled?

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Thai cop said to my Thai wife once after an auto accident committed by a psycho on a bike, speeding (no license/insurance)........"You must to pay 10,000 baht. Otherwise you have big problem. You have farang name. You married to farang. All farang have big money".

Our insurance took care of his broken leg/hospital bill, she was 1,000% legal. Still had to pay the piper though.

Guy was in the wrong lane too.

She HATES Thai cops, as do I.

Got a friend whose a Thai cop, he often says Thai people dont like the Police

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Man I can't believe this place.1 sensible post and the rest complete childish nonsense.

Surely the important thing here is the police by whatever means possible catch every last one of these suspects and no one else suffers.

20 people died and all you can come up with is sick jokes about the police who seem to be doing a first class job.

If there's 12 or 12 dozen involved the more they lock up the better

Here here!!! Well said Tanlic----------- Keep going boys til you get the whole dam lot of themclap2.gifclap2.gif

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DNA did not match that found on a backpack! Which back pack are we talking about as the Erewan one was destroyed in the blast and police said they had no DNA from Erewan.

The other presumed DNA from a week old Motorbike Taxi 20 BHT note is a joke, what did the Taxi driver suddenly remember after one week which 20 it was, and where it had been since he gave change to many other passengers in that week, are we supposed to believe that he put it into a plastic bag and saved it just in case the police might call on him. Not feasable!

The second green and yellow cab is forensicly examined after haveing an unknown amount of passengers since dropping off the suspect!

They must have all sat in the back and the suspect in the front, this is a polluted fairy tale, they dont know who,s DNA they have so it is 100% certain that the suspect will never match any of whatever DNA they collected.

They still have not said if the second suspects passport is valid even though a stroll over to the chinese embassy would verify if the passport was false.

They have not said if the Taxi drivers had been asked to ID the suspect who was in the area of Erewan at the time but claims he did not place the bomb.

A case of you didn't see me didn't do it.!

They still do not claim that both suspects are Uighurs although Adem has been singing in the Uighur language.

We still have not heard of the TP asking the Turkish police to look for and arrest the suspects in Turkey.

Maybe they have asked turkey and don't say nothing this would be wise but they are very slow and vague over the whole scenario and my guess is that sooner than later they will have to admit that this was an Uighur act of revenge, and that in most books is called international terorism. wai2.gif

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Man I can't believe this place.1 sensible post and the rest complete childish nonsense.

Surely the important thing here is the police by whatever means possible catch every last one of these suspects and no one else suffers.

20 people died and all you can come up with is sick jokes about the police who seem to be doing a first class job.

If there's 12 or 12 dozen involved the more they lock up the better

" a first class job" ?????

which country are you from that you can possibly believe that the farce we have been following over the last 3 weeks could be described as "a first class job" ?????

I am from the UK and by rights I should be ashamed of it.........ever heard of Guildford Four and the Maguire Seven?

Now they (The British Government) are being sued because of suspected collusion with the security forces and the bombers during the Dublin bombing when 33 people and an unborn child were killed

Or how about the FBI in the USA who had similar info as the Thais on the Time Sq bombing and they still haven't solved it?

How many years have the Aussie Police taken to catch Leonard John Warwick?

The police here have done a great job in comparison what "FARCE are you talking about and which country are you comparing your thaibashing to?

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Granted I know very little about how these cells operate and maybe some ex-military or people with more extensive knowledge would have a much better comprehension of how these people operate but I thought these groups were meant to be as isolated as possible with few members and cut outs between the bunnies and the controllers of these ops. So no one really has much other contact with others involved in the operation. 10 to me is starting to sound like a lot of people all sitting around making, planning, planting bombs and then hanging around to get buckled by the most (possibly) inept police force in the world. So these guys are either rank amateurs or had zero operational security and I imagine the list of suspects is only getting longer as the days go by.

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Man I can't believe this place.1 sensible post and the rest complete childish nonsense.

Surely the important thing here is the police by whatever means possible catch every last one of these suspects and no one else suffers.

20 people died and all you can come up with is sick jokes about the police who seem to be doing a first class job.

If there's 12 or 12 dozen involved the more they lock up the better

"A first class job" ?

Your post will have to be included in the nonsense.

Why??? He's right. How long does it take police in Western countries to catch people behind such acts. Usually months or longer.

Thai police have caught persons and more on the way.

But you and so many TV posters just want to deride Thais and anything Thai.

Its getting that so many of the posters on TV are basically just full of racism and hate.

Perhaps the NCPO should look to closing TV down, a cesspool of anti-Thai sentiment.

You, of course, could close your account and not be subjected to the so called "racism and hate". Why not?

Fact is it is hard to believe what these cops say, after the constant noise they made the first week or 2.

Then when you consider that western police do take some time in these type of cases, as you yourself pointed out, one might ask: do they actually have the real suspects?

I'm wondering maybe all these new 'defenders of the realm' are the new click bait trolls?

Yeah that will be right!!! I'm just out of the sin bin for calling someone an idiot and I am certainly not on anyone's payroll....you got some imagination.

Cops and politicians are far from perfect. Most of the misinformation in this country that comes from people who are not the decision makers but would like to be and can't wait to get in front of a camera.

At the end of the day they have arrested people who are without a shadow of a doubt involved and only a fool would think differently.

The named are naming names and you can bet your life it's to save themselves from receiving the death penalty which is not a bad incentive to get someone to sing.

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Man I can't believe this place.1 sensible post and the rest complete childish nonsense.

Surely the important thing here is the police by whatever means possible catch every last one of these suspects and no one else suffers.

20 people died and all you can come up with is sick jokes about the police who seem to be doing a first class job.

If there's 12 or 12 dozen involved the more they lock up the better

" a first class job" ?????

which country are you from that you can possibly believe that the farce we have been following over the last 3 weeks could be described as "a first class job" ?????

I am from the UK and by rights I should be ashamed of it.........ever heard of Guildford Four and the Maguire Seven?

Now they (The British Government) are being sued because of suspected collusion with the security forces and the bombers during the Dublin bombing when 33 people and an unborn child were killed

Or how about the FBI in the USA who had similar info as the Thais on the Time Sq bombing and they still haven't solved it?

How many years have the Aussie Police taken to catch Leonard John Warwick?

The police here have done a great job in comparison what "FARCE are you talking about and which country are you comparing your thaibashing to?

I don't think any comparisons were made in this thread to US, UK, nor Aussie cops so far.

Just Thai cops.

It is a Thailand forum after all.

I will "bash" any and every police Farce if they are inept.

This is your typical US cop, though I have no idea how it fits in here, aside from you bringing it up.

I'm an equal opportunity cop-basher thumbsup.gif .

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Don't be too hard on the lad, every Thailand newbie goes through the same stage.

He'll learn, same as I did, same as you probably did.

Some of us have been to Thai many times, some of us have lived in Thai extensively, some of us can speak read and write Thai and still keep our positives about the Thai people and culture. I agree with the original posters, keep the racism and the anti Thai anger and sentiment negatives to yourselves.

It gets so tiring to read all that anti Thai people stuff, made by so many posters here. First it was all about bitching how the Thai police would not catch the bombers, now its all about bitching they are catching too many? Can they do anything right in your minds?

If you do not like Thailand, the Thai people etc. Then why do you visit? Why do you live in Thailand? If it is such a terrible place, filled with such terrible people, then why not leave? Thailand will be a better place without you.

Peace : )) ...Venting over...(been saving that up for a few years)

Gerry

I dunno Gerry. Keeping score of anti -Thai and anti anti -Thai in all things said and done, I'd be venting about low estrogen levels more than racism.

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Man I can't believe this place.1 sensible post and the rest complete childish nonsense.

Surely the important thing here is the police by whatever means possible catch every last one of these suspects and no one else suffers.

20 people died and all you can come up with is sick jokes about the police who seem to be doing a first class job.

If there's 12 or 12 dozen involved the more they lock up the better

"A first class job" ?

Your post will have to be included in the nonsense.

Why??? He's right. How long does it take police in Western countries to catch people behind such acts. Usually months or longer.

Thai police have caught persons and more on the way.

But you and so many TV posters just want to deride Thais and anything Thai.

Its getting that so many of the posters on TV are basically just full of racism and hate.

Perhaps the NCPO should look to closing TV down, a cesspool of anti-Thai sentiment.

You, of course, could close your account and not be subjected to the so called "racism and hate". Why not?

Fact is it is hard to believe what these cops say, after the constant noise they made the first week or 2.

Then when you consider that western police do take some time in these type of cases, as you yourself pointed out, one might ask: do they actually have the real suspects?

I'm wondering maybe all these new 'defenders of the realm' are the new click bait trolls?

Yeah that will be right!!! I'm just out of the sin bin for calling someone an idiot and I am certainly not on anyone's payroll....you got some imagination.

Cops and politicians are far from perfect. Most of the misinformation in this country that comes from people who are not the decision makers but would like to be and can't wait to get in front of a camera.

At the end of the day they have arrested people who are without a shadow of a doubt involved and only a fool would think differently.

The named are naming names and you can bet your life it's to save themselves from receiving the death penalty which is not a bad incentive to get someone to sing.

A lot depends on how they're being interrogated... Anyone will admit anything

If they're being mentally or physically tortured etc..

Its been proven many times before that someone being tortured will say anything to get it to stop, I don't know if the Thai military personnel are the best people for this job

Guilty or not thought, there still in thailand so pretty much <deleted> whether they admit it or not

If they go to a Thai jail, will they even be alive long enough to see any court? Plenty of Thais doing life might be angry about this ... And then there's the possibility of someone doing the job for money

If your already on death row or never getting out, you don't have much to lose

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Man I can't believe this place.1 sensible post and the rest complete childish nonsense.

Surely the important thing here is the police by whatever means possible catch every last one of these suspects and no one else suffers.

20 people died and all you can come up with is sick jokes about the police who seem to be doing a first class job.

If there's 12 or 12 dozen involved the more they lock up the better

"A first class job" ?

Your post will have to be included in the nonsense.

Why??? He's right. How long does it take police in Western countries to catch people behind such acts. Usually months or longer.

Thai police have caught persons and more on the way.

But you and so many TV posters just want to deride Thais and anything Thai.

Its getting that so many of the posters on TV are basically just full of racism and hate.

Perhaps the NCPO should look to closing TV down, a cesspool of anti-Thai sentiment.

Wow! OK then. crazy.gif

Don't be too hard on the lad, every Thailand newbie goes through the same stage.

He'll learn, same as I did, same as you probably did.

I didn't think I was being hard on him? And I don't think he will learn .

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Don't be too hard on the lad, every Thailand newbie goes through the same stage.

He'll learn, same as I did, same as you probably did.

Some of us have been to Thai many times, some of us have lived in Thai extensively, some of us can speak read and write Thai and still keep our positives about the Thai people and culture. I agree with the original posters, keep the racism and the anti Thai anger and sentiment negatives to yourselves.

It gets so tiring to read all that anti Thai people stuff, made by so many posters here. First it was all about bitching how the Thai police would not catch the bombers, now its all about bitching they are catching too many? Can they do anything right in your minds?

If you do not like Thailand, the Thai people etc. Then why do you visit? Why do you live in Thailand? If it is such a terrible place, filled with such terrible people, then why not leave? Thailand will be a better place without you.

Peace : )) ...Venting over...(been saving that up for a few years)

Gerry

I agree with many things said but where did in these comments anyone talk bad about Thai PEOPLE. Thai people start talking about RTP the same way as some members on this forum. Unless someone might consider the vast majority of Thais not being Thais because they are unwanted poor farmers!

Exactly! These types of post make my blood boil. My Thai court translator asked me to please pass on that it's not only the farang who have many problems with the police. She'd had to spend an entire night sleeping in her car to seek out the criminal gang who'd stolen two of her rental cars and then spend the following fortnight bedding down in different friends' houses as she was now a target for a hit. The Thai police hadn't wanted to know, until she'd at last enlisted the help of a lone cop she knew personally in another town who'd reluctantly helped her out. So enough with the smug 'it's only us farang' paranoia, the Thai population suffer their greed and laziness far more than we do. There's more of them.

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Don't be too hard on the lad, every Thailand newbie goes through the same stage.

He'll learn, same as I did, same as you probably did.

Some of us have been to Thai many times, some of us have lived in Thai extensively, some of us can speak read and write Thai and still keep our positives about the Thai people and culture. I agree with the original posters, keep the racism and the anti Thai anger and sentiment negatives to yourselves.

It gets so tiring to read all that anti Thai people stuff, made by so many posters here. First it was all about bitching how the Thai police would not catch the bombers, now its all about bitching they are catching too many? Can they do anything right in your minds?

If you do not like Thailand, the Thai people etc. Then why do you visit? Why do you live in Thailand? If it is such a terrible place, filled with such terrible people, then why not leave? Thailand will be a better place without you.

Peace : )) ...Venting over...(been saving that up for a few years)

Gerry

Kinda makes you wonder why so many people feel negatively about Thais and why so few manage to keep feeling positive.

In my experience, there's usually a reason. I know what mine is, you doubtless know what yours is. I will not criticise your world view which is apparently where we differ. Life teaches us what it teaches us. Your view is your view, I can manage quite well without it thanks.

My experience, admittedly only lived here 11 years, is that most farangs I meet, like me, love living here and find it a positive experience.

But then I don't hang around farang bars only eating farang food, as I am sure you and most of the negative experience farangs do.

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Man I can't believe this place.1 sensible post and the rest complete childish nonsense.

Surely the important thing here is the police by whatever means possible catch every last one of these suspects and no one else suffers.

20 people died and all you can come up with is sick jokes about the police who seem to be doing a first class job.

If there's 12 or 12 dozen involved the more they lock up the better

clap2.gifclap2.gifclap2.gif How much did you pay for your job in RTP ... gigglem.gif ?

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Maybe because I'm English - still don't understand the system here why do they need a warrant to arrest someone - searching a property yes understand - just asking - in UK property search think warrant needed unless "wanted person" is there - why so different in LOS?

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As to the Thai-bashers:

There is a parable about a young man who journeys to another village with thoughts of settling there. He comes across an old gentleman on the outskirts, and enquires about the village. The smiling old man tells the traveler that the village is wonderful, populated with friendly and caring people, and opines that the hiker will find happiness there.

The traveler continues, and comes across a curmudgeonly old gentleman, passes the time with him and enquires about the nature of the village and its dwellers. The old gent tells him that it is not a nice village, the inhabitants are unpleasant and mean-spirited. He continues in that vein, and states that the young man will most certainly be unhappy there.

Thai-bashers, unfortunately, are the kind of folk who will criticize and find fault wherever they live, with the location and with the people who live there. If they did a little bit of self-critical soul-searching, they may possibly come to realize that the problems lie within. A re-think with a change of mind-set and attitude, could go a long way to making their stay in Thailand more enjoyable and stress-free. They would themselves be better people, for it.

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"He said interrogation of Mr Karadag has been made via three interpretaters and the suspect confessed in Uighur language and named his accomplice."

And a new word enters the English language: interpretater - one who is both an interpreter and an interrogator.

You made a joke, but seriously I suspect that you are right in that the likely "interpreters" were also probably interrogators flown in from China special for the task from MSS, their intelligence agency. They have specialists for many years in dealing with the Uighur "problem" who speak the Uighur dialect (though I'm sure the suspects also speak Mandarin), and they know which buttons to push to elicit information, such as family back home that are at risk.

It wasn't entirely meant to be just a joke - I had in mind the Koh Tao 'interpretater' and wonder what credibility may be given to a statement extracted under pressure of intensive interrogation. He would have been an amateur - if the MSS from China are involved here then that is a whole different ball game.

I don't think many would have seen the irony but you certainly did.

I'm sorry to say that I know little about the MSS. I stopped following reports about the various intelligence agencies after Adam Hall stopped writing the Quiller series. I can't stand to read Le Carre any more -- his protagonists just suffer too much injustice, and it's too much like real life. I hope (and expect) that the Chinese understand interrogation better than the CIA does. They should remember from the Korean War that torture is fine for extracting confessions, false or true doesn't matter, but it's not a very good tool for getting information.

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