Protesters tell US ambassador to "go home"

[Blackfish64]

I believe that the 1st amendment is for US citizen only.

same as the second amendment to carry a gun.

if you are not a US citizen, you have not the right of speech. thus you still have the right to think.

The First Amendment does not in fact denote a "right" doled out by the State, but rather denotes a right and a property of the people to speak and assemble peacefully as and when they wish. The Bill of Rights is a giant NO TRESPASSING sign aimed directly at the State--should they decide to get cute. The Second Amendment, the guns, are for backing up the rest of the eight Amendments when the State refuses to obey.

It has less to do with "rights" (as people so stupidly and loosely use the term) and more to do with properties and physics.

Theoretically, Americans tell the State what to do. Actually, physically, the State has made every attempt to erode and eradicate said properties and "rights" as of late.

Thais do not understand said "rights" and properties, as they have always been told what to do and what not to do. This is where some of the difficulty between the two cultures lie.

[Blackfish64]

I believe that the 1st amendment is for US citizen only.

same as the second amendment to carry a gun.

if you are not a US citizen, you have not the right of speech. thus you still have the right to think.

Are you positively sure you still have the right to think anything you want?

Absolutely. Always. Forever. It is not up for negotiation.

No one can give me that right and no one can take it away. It is mine. And no one else's.

[JAG]

I love the ever so unintelligent, "go clean up your own house first" comments.

First of all, if ANY of you want to get into a democratic pissing argument, then the US will blow the doors off of Thailand any day in terms of democracy. That would have been the case before the coup let alone now...

Secondly, if your position is really such that the USA needs to be perfect before it talks democracy with a military junta like the one we have here, then your position is really "please don't call me out for being undemocratic, please, please, please... "

Just a bunch of junta-huggin whiners...

Do you really think the USA has a democracy

ALL the candidates for president have been chosen by the large companies who run the country. The guy oon the street can't choose who becomes president so it obviously isn't a democracy.

The USA have caused ALL this mess in the world. STOP now and try to clean up corruption at the top over there.

Are you sure that you don't mean that the guys on the street haven't chosen the fellow you want to be President, so it obviously isn't a democracy?

[Rhys]

Let them eat cake..

[2fishin2]

a spinnin but what does it matter? Same poop different day. The military and its puppet has ruled this country forever and will continue until this bad cult of a society wakes up and understands its been brainwashed for all these years.

[Blackfish64]

My first words in English were "Yankee go home" when I was about 6 because US bombed Vietnam in those years. I think it would be better if some thai people will know the same words as the first ones. At least it is more useful than words "Coca-cola or McDonalds"

I have to laugh my head off when I hear Thais tell me to go home. There are a lot more Southeast Asians in the west than Westerners in the east. I often wonder why Thais don't want to stay in their own country. They leave Thailand in droves for the west. Hmmmm...

I had to laugh again on a recent visit to America, while eating in a Thai restaurant in Las Vegas. The Thai workers (still slaving away for other Thai for tips only, by the way) started in with the "farang" insult again, thinking I did not understand them. I stood up from my table and shouted at them, "Better watch your mouth, my friend. You're in my country now. You're the farang now. So, farang, get my check. And i'm not paying for the spring rolls--they sucked. And for your insult you'll recieve no tip." The girl shook and dropped a tear and ran to the back room. The guy sat there and balled up his fists and turned red. "Yeah, suck it up, smart boy," I told him. And that was that. The girl didn't bring the check quick enough so I walked out without paying for anything.

We're here to stay. Get used to it. The Chinese, too. And we do what we like, just like Thais do when they're abroad. So eat it. Suck up another Coke and grin and bear it. We know you love it.

Thailand, the second fattest country in Asia, behind Malaysia. Smart people in the west know better than to eat that crap.

[Blackfish64]

Like I always say, China, Russia or Uganda take your pick as the new world's leader. If the US is ever dethroned, you'll be cryin you butts off. Be careful what you wish for.

Where have you been? USA topples all thrones. Power to the people.

Well, the corporations will be at the helm for a while anyway, before the people ever really get a chance.

But be sure the people will rise up and throw off the bankers... er... um... the white devil slave masters... er... um... I meant to say, throw off the standing armies... er... um... I mean... um... er... oh just forget it!

[Blackfish64]

What was so bad about the spring rolls?

Dey no freshie.

[NovaBlue05]

Well if you can't prove anything // Just keep repeating it and some might believe

Anyway as that was last weekend -

Are they going to protest the FAA ruling at the Embassy next weekend?

Why not (if it's not illegal)?

USA should learn a lesson: U.S. standards are not the world's standards.

I don't think FAA standards apply to the world.....just those airlines that want to fly to the US. Fortunately, it's such a small market that it probably doesn't affect too many

[NovaBlue05]

I love the ever so unintelligent, "go clean up your own house first" comments.

First of all, if ANY of you want to get into a democratic pissing argument, then the US will blow the doors off of Thailand any day in terms of democracy. That would have been the case before the coup let alone now...

Secondly, if your position is really such that the USA needs to be perfect before it talks democracy with a military junta like the one we have here, then your position is really "please don't call me out for being undemocratic, please, please, please... "

Just a bunch of junta-huggin whiners...

Do you really think the USA has a democracy

ALL the candidates for president have been chosen by the large companies who run the country. The guy oon the street can't choose who becomes president so it obviously isn't a democracy.

The USA have caused ALL this mess in the world. STOP now and try to clean up corruption at the top over there.

Are you sure that you don't mean that the guys on the street haven't chosen the fellow you want to be President, so it obviously isn't a democracy?

Us 'merkins pick the President allright.. The Oligarchs just select the nominees.

[Blackfish64]

I love the ever so unintelligent, "go clean up your own house first" comments.

First of all, if ANY of you want to get into a democratic pissing argument, then the US will blow the doors off of Thailand any day in terms of democracy. That would have been the case before the coup let alone now...

Secondly, if your position is really such that the USA needs to be perfect before it talks democracy with a military junta like the one we have here, then your position is really "please don't call me out for being undemocratic, please, please, please... "

Just a bunch of junta-huggin whiners...

Do you really think the USA has a democracy

ALL the candidates for president have been chosen by the large companies who run the country. The guy oon the street can't choose who becomes president so it obviously isn't a democracy.

The USA have caused ALL this mess in the world. STOP now and try to clean up corruption at the top over there.

Are you sure that you don't mean that the guys on the street haven't chosen the fellow you want to be President, so it obviously isn't a democracy?

Us 'merkins pick the President allright.. The Oligarchs just select the nominees.

Indeed. Welcome to the plutocratic technocracy. It's got the whole world in its hands.

[zackattack]

Yeah right man I served in the military for 22 years and believe me if we just got up and left the world would severely end horribly.

Kevin Matthew Wall

[zackattack]

Your probably very very old and hateful person so I'll say a prayer for you that you'll be better off tomorrow morning.

[WaiLai]

I love the ever so unintelligent, "go clean up your own house first" comments.

First of all, if ANY of you want to get into a democratic pissing argument, then the US will blow the doors off of Thailand any day in terms of democracy. That would have been the case before the coup let alone now...

Secondly, if your position is really such that the USA needs to be perfect before it talks democracy with a military junta like the one we have here, then your position is really "please don't call me out for being undemocratic, please, please, please... "

Just a bunch of junta-huggin whiners...

Do you really think the USA has a democracy

ALL the candidates for president have been chosen by the large companies who run the country. The guy oon the street can't choose who becomes president so it obviously isn't a democracy.

The USA have caused ALL this mess in the world. STOP now and try to clean up corruption at the top over there.

Are you sure that you don't mean that the guys on the street haven't chosen the fellow you want to be President, so it obviously isn't a democracy?

I couldn't care less who "runs the USA" What i do strongly support is that no matter who backed the winning party, the spokespeople for the USA will never run down/marginalize the core concepts of democracy, freedom of speech etc; Thailand's politicians are still wearing diapers and need a bit of a firm maternal hand of guidance so that the people they suppress can benefit

[waitforusalso]

[metisdead]

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[KonaRain]

The ambassador asked why 25+/years in prison for speech criticizing the Royal Family,tried in a military Court..

[jacky54]

Not a speech, comments on fb and it was 60 years reduced to 30

[Plutojames88]

These protesters are invaluable in reality and I appreciate them highlighting several things.

The insidious nature of the countries elites under military rule.

Unworthy recipients of any western help whilst in power.

And the fastening of the process whereby we simply impose bans on their goods until they release LM detainees.

Without these goons this situation would remain passive.

They are the engine room to change .

They if anything show what a backward place of draconian proportions it has become.

Ironically their leader claims to be a man of god.

Such vile humans who prey on truth and those who speak it

Whilst garbed in clothing which they should not wear

[Plutojames88]

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[Blackfish64]

The Thai people are every bit as opportunist, cruel, vile, and corrupt as any of their leaders can be. Corruption is a way of life in Thailand. It is the rule, not the exception.

Notice the ordinary folk who run the shrimp slave rackets, just to name one example.

Thais are not looking to end corruption, but to get their own little piece of the action.

Edited December 14, 2015 by Blackfish64