30 minutes ago, macknife said:

No, the RC390 is more expensive. around 20k more i think.

 

I took it for a spin at the weekend. It is quick off the mark but it sounds like a tractor. The tail is just horribly designed.

normal mellow sound of the motorcycle. design on the fan. but work at least its own and recognizable.

 Of course it's not r3 - child sells product. No big deal  care about design . Piano only mix Honda with Ducati and ula la...

PS

so you can say it's near R3 ride?

honestly?

 

18 minutes ago, ardokano said:

normal mellow sound of the motorcycle. design on the fan. but work at least its own and recognizable.

 Of course it's not r3 - child sells product. No big deal  care about design . Piano only mix Honda with Ducati and ula la...

PS

so you can say it's near R3 ride?

honestly?

 

What?

Ok I'll have a go.

A tractor sound isn't mellow. I couldn't see the fan, so I don't know how it's designed. Yes, with all the orange the KTM looks good(esp the Duke390) very recognizable.

There were no children there selling anything. I'm lost. Very lost - a Piahonduc?

The KTM? Speed wise very near. KTM a little quicker of the mark. The ride position on the RC390 is horrible compared to the R3. The Duke390 is quite comfortable though. If I had to buy one tomorrow I would choose the R3. I know the KTM is a little quicker and has a bit more quality eg. tyres, brakes, but that engine arhhh!! Give me a twin any day over that. Also the R3 looks much nicer especially the Motogp version, which looks great.

The R3 has it's faults too. I think some of the components look cheap eg the rear sets and the assembly looks rushed eg untidy wiring but I'd still take it over the RC390. With the money I'd save I could easily put some nicer rear sets on it and eventually better tyres but Michelin are a top brand and I don't think they'd let you down.

29 minutes ago, macknife said:

What?

Ok I'll have a go.

A tractor sound isn't mellow. I couldn't see the fan, so I don't know how it's designed. Yes, with all the orange the KTM looks good(esp the Duke390) very recognizable.

There were no children there selling anything. I'm lost. Very lost - a Piahonduc?

The KTM? Speed wise very near. KTM a little quicker of the mark. The ride position on the RC390 is horrible compared to the R3. The Duke390 is quite comfortable though. If I had to buy one tomorrow I would choose the R3. I know the KTM is a little quicker and has a bit more quality eg. tyres, brakes, but that engine arhhh!! Give me a twin any day over that. Also the R3 looks much nicer especially the Motogp version, which looks great.

The R3 has it's faults too. I think some of the components look cheap eg the rear sets and the assembly looks rushed eg untidy wiring but I'd still take it over the RC390. With the money I'd save I could easily put some nicer rear sets on it and eventually better tyres but Michelin are a top brand and I don't think they'd let you down.

Litle  quicker you must kidding me.

 After 100km/h RC390 still GO.

Cant say it about R3.

 Sit rider not comfort for city or traffic ride.

 But for mountans and speedway it sport ride position as must be on sport bike.

 R3 in city same not comfort.

 If want bike look as sport but comfort in City it CBR..

Or maybe  kawa.

 And ofcouse beter niked bike and duke 390 perfect choise.

 But  if bike sit as sport..

 What about engine?

I like this is type engine.

Top torque is available earlier and longer. for a beginner it is generally its a big plus.

R3 only suspension setup is similar to the RC390..

Pc

 Moto gp version..

 Wow you second guys..

 Remaid me my GF .. she choice car follow color:)

 

Motogp version color you want say.

 Becouse from moto gp version R3 far as i am from moon.

R3 even far from R6.. 

Realy if not comfort sit in  RC390 .. need forget about sport bike.

I am not fan sport type sit. But on RC its very good as sport.

 

do not be offended. I did not want to offend any..

 Best regards Ardokano

16 minutes ago, ardokano said:

Litle  quicker you must kidding me.

 After 100km/h RC390 still GO.

Cant say it about R3.

 Sit rider not comfort for city or traffic ride.

 But for mountans and speedway it sport ride position as must be on sport bike.

 R3 in city same not comfort.

 If want bike look as sport but comfort in City it CBR..

Or maybe  kawa.

 And ofcouse beter niked bike and duke 390 perfect choise.

 But  if bike sit as sport..

 What about engine?

I like this is type engine.

Top torque is available earlier and longer. for a beginner it is generally its a big plus.

R3 only suspension setup is similar to the RC390..

Pc

 Moto gp version..

 Wow you second guys..

 Remaid me my GF .. she choice car follow color:)

 

Motogp version color you want say.

 Becouse from moto gp version R3 far as i am from moon.

R3 even far from R6.. 

Realy if not comfort sit in  RC390 .. need forget about sport bike.

I am not fan sport type sit. But on RC its very good as sport.

 

do not be offended. I did not want to offend any..

 Best regards Ardokano

After 100kph the R3 does still go. Why are you talking like the RC390 is amazing? It has like 3-4 more HP, that's not a lot.

The R3 is a comfortable bike, it's really not that aggressive. Of all the sport bikes in it's class I believe it has the most upright position. So it should be fine in city riding. If it's uncomfortable for you then maybe you are getting a bit old now for sporty type bikes.

What is niked?

Engine? I don't care about a slightly better torque if the engine sounds terrible.

Yes I like colours and like my bike to look nice. i would say that's quite normal. I won't buy something I don't like the look of simply because it has 3-4 more HP.

The simple fact is the RC is uncomfortable and all reviews say the same thing. The entire rear end behind the riders seat is made from rubber of some sort, it's awful. the frame looks nice though. Looks are subjective so some may like it but not me.

I have been on ZX-10s, R1s, R6s, CBR1000s, Ducati panigales, H2 and none of them feel like the RC390 or are they not sports bikes?

You have often said you are new to the biking world so how much do you really know?

Have you ridden the RC390 or R3 for any length of time?

I get the feeling you just like the colour orange or have some weird dislike of the R3. Yes the RC has better track times than the R3 but the track isn't the real world.

It's like you are just looking at a stats page of the RC390 and using it to criticize the R3 when you know very little about either bike.

I'm no expert either but I don't come on here criticizing other bikes without reason or claim to ride a 1200cc Ducati Diavel as my beginner bike.

12 hours ago, macknife said:

After 100kph the R3 does still go. Why are you talking like the RC390 is amazing? It has like 3-4 more HP, that's not a lot.

The R3 is a comfortable bike, it's really not that aggressive. Of all the sport bikes in it's class I believe it has the most upright position. So it should be fine in city riding. If it's uncomfortable for you then maybe you are getting a bit old now for sporty type bikes.

What is niked?

Engine? I don't care about a slightly better torque if the engine sounds terrible.

Yes I like colours and like my bike to look nice. i would say that's quite normal. I won't buy something I don't like the look of simply because it has 3-4 more HP.

The simple fact is the RC is uncomfortable and all reviews say the same thing. The entire rear end behind the riders seat is made from rubber of some sort, it's awful. the frame looks nice though. Looks are subjective so some may like it but not me.

I have been on ZX-10s, R1s, R6s, CBR1000s, Ducati panigales, H2 and none of them feel like the RC390 or are they not sports bikes?

You have often said you are new to the biking world so how much do you really know?

Have you ridden the RC390 or R3 for any length of time?

I get the feeling you just like the colour orange or have some weird dislike of the R3. Yes the RC has better track times than the R3 but the track isn't the real world.

It's like you are just looking at a stats page of the RC390 and using it to criticize the R3 when you know very little about either bike.

I'm no expert either but I don't come on here criticizing other bikes without reason or claim to ride a 1200cc Ducati Diavel as my beginner bike.

  First i am not claime to ride any bike. But still think Diavel nice bike for beginer.

Yes i ride R3 an RC390

Yes i am not fill comfort ride as every day sport .  Where RC ancomfortable? Its apper agressive sit.. and sit as sport more comforr than R3 . Rewiev have different say about sit position. And almost what i read simular my opinion ots good for sport ride.

 

 You so fanny.

  Small panigale and big have different position rider sit.

 R6 i try.  Rc390 more simulat rider position  to R6 , than R3

 About kawa and honda liter i even not sit on this is bike.

 

You do not like sound RC390 ok..

 Its IMHO..

3-4HP

  Even on    speedy car i can filling.

 And its 10% up

How about 

Top torque is available earlier and longer?

Torque its same up 10% more.

About after 100km/h not go its litle kidding.

 But sure R3 much more slow when rc390

Near 3 sec from  to 130.

Its can fill even beginer as me.

And sure it huge for public road too.

an eternity than overtaking as example.

3 sec it without reason?? Its can be bet life in  public road.

Ok ok

 Yes I like colours and like my bike to look nice (c)

 I like first how ride  bike. And how look its even not second.

 But different people different opinion. Some buy bike want look to him. Some buy want ride and enjoy bike.

 And yes if you like blue R3 in motogp color its good choice.

 Not forget buy helmet with 46 and put the bike at the bar to put the helmet on the seat and admire..

 Not ofence  last its be joking.

Best regards Ardokano.

 

18 hours ago, macknife said:

No, the RC390 is more expensive. around 20k more i think.

 

I took it for a spin at the weekend. It is quick off the mark but it sounds like a tractor. The tail is just horribly designed.

 

 

I suppose someone trolling this thread will try and convince us they actually sound better than a twin.. 

22 hours ago, ardokano said:

Sorry you change  your living place?

The nearest KTM dealership is 120km north of me but just the same I'll have a look before I make up my mind. Still a bit of a ride for a service.  (c) fullcave?

Pc

 As i see warranty need for R3 sure.

 Have recall even

 

 

 

No, I'll not be moving to  BKK, Pattaya or Hat Yai anytime soon. 

 

Yes, I'll be having the service performed at an authorised dealer as to not void the warranty regardless. 

35 minutes ago, fullcave said:

 

No, I'll not be moving to  BKK, Pattaya or Hat Yai anytime soon. 

 

Yes, I'll be having the service performed at an authorised dealer as to not void the warranty regardless. 

I mean  last time you say dealer 120 km from you. Now say its 350km..

 120 km i not think its to much.

 But 350... yep..

 

True, the dealer in Hua Hin is unauthorised and of course nothing in stock. Looked a bit dodgy...  

2 hours ago, fullcave said:

 

I suppose someone trolling this thread will try and convince us they actually sound better than a twin.. 

 

Haha - well if the sound is coming from a dirt bike in the bush, then yes, singles sound miles better than twins. 

1 minute ago, denkiblue555 said:

 

Haha - well if the sound is coming from a dirt bike in the bush, then yes, singles sound miles better than twins. 

 

 

Yes, especially if that sound is coming from a two stroke.. 

11 minutes ago, fullcave said:

 

Yes, especially if that sound is coming from a two stroke.. 

 

For sure!

3 hours ago, denkiblue555 said:

 

Haha - well if the sound is coming from a dirt bike in the bush, then yes, singles sound miles better than twins. 

Sound on 300 cc rice bike?

 you must kiding.. twins not twins it metter? If bike not go

3 hours ago, fullcave said:

 

Yes, especially if that sound is coming from a two stroke.. 

Well, someone like the sound of chainsaws or lawnmowers ..

 PS

 we not talking about enduro bike is it?

 Back to topic.. Is it R3 how much need to weigh rider that this mower like a sportbike  can GO in  the mountains or on the speedway?

 40KG? or still not Go on speedway after 100 km/h?

OK Ok for beginer may be no need much.. but for guys after liter..  what you guys doing?

add gunpowder rocket fuel in the tank?

^^ Another 2 quality posts which are really contributing to the colourful enlightenment that has been brought by you to this discussion.

6 hours ago, denkiblue555 said:

^^ Another 2 quality posts which are really contributing to the colourful enlightenment that has been brought by you to this discussion.

 

 I know, painful isn't it....

7 hours ago, denkiblue555 said:

^^ Another 2 quality posts which are really contributing to the colourful enlightenment that has been brought by you to this discussion.

Yes i can it

 So can you explaine to me why need R3 not for begginer in Thailand?

Not see big diference with Exister.  Existee have color movistar (gp style)..Ofcouse if compare with liter bike.. as some say changed type bike..

So why need pay more than double?

1 hour ago, ardokano said:

Yes i can it

 So can you explaine to me why need R3 not for begginer in Thailand?

Not see big diference with Exister.  Existee have color movistar (gp style)..Ofcouse if compare with liter bike.. as some say changed type bike..

So why need pay more than double?

 

Well I certainly can it with the best of 'em 

And explaine to the explainers why anyone wouldn't not need to be R3 not for beginner?? Tell me I'm not rong!

Not big difference with Exsister cause she do riding style very well but not good enough for GP (uses different colors).

Of course if compare with litre bike not have as many litres - the spillage could be.

Pay more than double is crazy kookie redneck swampman jive - 150% is better for need to pay over.

 

19 minutes ago, denkiblue555 said:

 

Well I certainly can it with the best of 'em 

And explaine to the explainers why anyone wouldn't not need to be R3 not for beginner?? Tell me I'm not rong!

Not big difference with Exsister cause she do riding style very well but not good enough for GP (uses different colors).

Of course if compare with litre bike not have as many litres - the spillage could be.

Pay more than double is crazy kookie redneck swampman jive - 150% is better for need to pay over.

 

as Beetles sing Denki, you are Foul on the Hell. push Exsisterer off cliffe, push R3 off cliffe, push litter bike off cliffe, all at sam time they all hit ground at sam time. except litter bike make bigger banger. you cant refuse this arguments!

 

Beam me up, Scotty.

taichiplanet , My Aprilia RSV has nitrogen filled tires. Would that have any effect on the 9.8 M per second/2 gravitational pull , or would i have to add lightweight susspension oil to the shock.

On 8/3/2016 at 11:45 PM, ardokano said:

Well, someone like the sound of chainsaws or lawnmowers ..

 PS

 we not talking about enduro bike is it?

 Back to topic.. Is it R3 how much need to weigh rider that this mower like a sportbike  can GO in  the mountains or on the speedway?

 40KG? or still not Go on speedway after 100 km/h?

OK Ok for beginer may be no need much.. but for guys after liter..  what you guys doing?

add gunpowder rocket fuel in the tank?

 

 

OK, you have convinced me. R3 it is..  

More feedback on the R3,

 

So I removed the big ugly rear fender and installed the fender kit. I modified the factory lights rather then install the LED ones that came with the kit. I have been blasting around in the mountain area of Pak Thong Chai . The roads are very nice and no traffic to speak of coupled with the weather is perfect

 

Further assessment

 

Pros:

• Handles exceptionally well. I am really enjoying the nimbleness in the mountains
• The rider position is very comfortable (I am 5'8 158lbs)
• Has very good response when RPM's are hovering at 7K. 
• Ride is very stable at higher speeds 100 to 140 kms (Have had it to 153kms for short bursts)
• Front brakes with the ABS are very stable when you grab a big handful of brake. I still have never used the rear brake. 

 

Cons:

• Suspension is a bit too soft, I will work on adjusting this over the coming weeks. I might add an Ohlin rear
• When you let up on the throttle quickly it loses road speed extremely fast which can cause a twitchy jerky feeling and present a problem if a car is behind you too close. This is different for me having ridden 3/4 liter/ Liter bikes in the US as they have more coasting speed when you let off the throttle. Taking me a while to adjust to that.
• Depending on how you want to view this, this is not a moto for a passenger. Its a solo bike. Some might see that as a con, I find it to be a Pro. 

 

At this juncture this is a really good moto for the price. I will add the Yosh system and the EFI tuner in a few months. Not that it needs it at all but I like to tweek on things as my hobby. 

 

 

 

 

 

A pic one day as I stopped for lunch.

 

On 11/23/2016 at 5:25 PM, JAFO said:

I will add the Yosh system and the EFI tuner in a few months. Not that it needs it at all but I like to tweek on things as my hobby. 

 

Very nice.

 

I would add a K&N or DNA air filter too. 

 

I really like these bikes. 

1 minute ago, Happy Grumpy said:

 

Very nice.

 

I would add a K&N or DNA air filter too. 

 

I really like these bikes. 

Yeah Happy Grumpy,  They are a blast to ride. Cheap fun as I see it.  

 

I was invited to go riding Saturday with a few engineers that work for me.  They have a 150 or so km ride they do.  One has a new Honda 500 , the other a newer CBR.  Should be fun up in the mountains weather permitting of course.  

Nice, will be interesting to see how it compares to the cbr500.

 

Most people say that the R3 is more fun. But of course the cbr500 a lot more powerful. 

29 minutes ago, Happy Grumpy said:

Nice, will be interesting to see how it compares to the cbr500.

 

Most people say that the R3 is more fun. But of course the cbr500 a lot more powerful. 

Hmm, the R3 is 42 hp and the cbr500 is what 47hp?

 

R3 is lighter too sooooo.

 

If I was living in a mountainous area, I would be very interested in the R3

Actually having owned both I can say the R3 is slightly faster and more sporty. Maybe because it's lighter, lower riding position and runs at higher rpm. However, the cbr500r has a higher riding position so would be more comfortable for distance and also offers better fuel consumption and larger fuel tank so a much longer range between fills.

 

 

14 hours ago, fullcave said:

Actually having owned both I can say the R3 is slightly faster and more sporty. Maybe because it's lighter, lower riding position and runs at higher rpm. However, the cbr500r has a higher riding position so would be more comfortable for distance and also offers better fuel consumption and larger fuel tank so a much longer range between fills.

 

 

 

I tend to agree. I purchased my R3 more specifically to where I live and my riding style. I rode the 500 and it sits a bit too upright for my personal taste but it is a very nice ride and again is affordable and fun.  The 500 is also more 2 rider worthy where as the R3 is not. Having always owned sport bikes the R3 offers the position I am accustomed too and again I never took passengers before. I will likely do a trade off with one of the guys if we go and I will offer my experience in the rides in the mountains. 

 

Again all of these bikes are fun for what they are. I have yet to miss my liter bike. Simply no need for 200HP in these parts. I think with the exhaust upgrade and a tuner I can get the moto to about 50HP and that's a nice number for the weight. 

Well a group of us did our ride today. Perfect weather. Got some more miles on the R3. 5 of us took off and buzzed up into the mountains. The bikes were 3 ER6n's, 1 CBR500 and my lil ol R3. We never got to switch motos to try the other ones out. The ER6n and the CBR 500 are the same class bike. Upright stance, naked style. On the main highway 304 the Kawi and Honda's were much easier to cruise on (Not that the R3 is uncomfy) but just more relaxed. When we got into the mountains the R3 was just a lot more fun. I can flip the thing side to side no issues and dive it much deeper into a turn then the other bikes. I found that the R3 really likes to be around 7k rpm. Its super smooth and lots of throttle response so I kept in 4th as I flipped it back and forth. There was a lot of traffic as many people drive up from BKK to enjoy the weather so none of us got to really string it out consistently.

 

Overall great day and good fun. We stopped at a coffee shop by a big lake, talked motos, watched other motos blaze by and what the next ride will be.

 

Few pics of the day

 

 

 

Very Clean Er6n

 

 

Met a restaurant on route