second hand car scam risk

[fry30]

Hi everyone,

My wife went to buy a used car for around 500 000, she paid by cashier check at the car dealer, I told her to check the ID card of the seller and the blue book but she didn't.

However she took a video of the transaction.

She got a copy of the blue book (she didn't check the original) the seller isn't the owner, he made a contract with the owner, I told her to check this contract but again she didn't.

So she has no guaranty that the name on the cashier check is the same than the seller and no guaranty that the seller is authorized to sell the car.

The car is in our garden, all she has is a contract with the seller, copy of a blue book she didn't see and a cashier check to an unverified person.

What are the odds that we can keep this car. Anyone knows if it a common practice between thai?

With a video of the transaction we could probably sue this seller, how much could the lawyer cost and if the seller doesn't own any car in his name could we still find a way to get our money back?

[BEVUP]

Most probably not much to worry about

The contract to sell is probably from a bank or others (repo )

Hence why there is no original Green Book that should be in the Debtors name

I would say financial dealings need to be finalized between Car Dealer & other parties to obtain original Green Book

Good your wife took a video

[inzman]

No book no money, be aware in this country. Why the heck would she hand over the money with no ownership book?

[fry30]

oh I forgot to mention that the ownership could not be changed yesterday because the dealer just received the car and didn't get yet the VAT documentation. My wife call them this morning to get the copy of his ID card and called the traffic department to know it the owner on the blue book copy is the correct one, it's ok for this 2 things.

I hope it's not a common scam to sell a car from someone else and then share the money with this person, if the seller is broke even with a good lawyer it could take years to get our money back.

I can only hope that this seller is honest, she asked for the contract between him and the owner but he said that it was confidential, same answer from the traffic department.

[stevenl]

Normally the second hand dealers leave the car registration (blue book) in the name of the person who sold the car to them, to avoid double expenses. I would not worry, sounds legit to me.

[fry30]

but they should get a power of attorney to be able to sell the car in the name of the owner, they told my wife it's confidential and she can't see it, is it correct?

If the owner don't want to change the car name do she has to give him back?

[patyh]

but they should get a power of attorney to be able to sell the car in the name of the owner, they told my wife it's confidential and she can't see it, is it correct?

If the owner don't want to change the car name do she has to give him back?

Look at the copy of the blue book..

In the page where the owner is listed, someone should have sign it..

Signing it means the owner already sold the car to the dealer..

[seedy]

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[MolesterStallone]

As mentioned the seller should have the documents from the original owner (name in blue book) to prove ownership.

Also for future reference upon producing cash or cheque it is also ok to ask to transfer the car first.

This may seem backward but if you buy a car through finance the finance company will get the car transferred to themselves prior to releasing funds to the seller.

[fry30]

We got the bluebook, didn't get any problems