Vientiane issued me a non-B single entry with child's birth certificate and wife's ID card. They hand wrote on the visa  'Baby is Thai' (in Thai). Another person applied for retirement and got non-B with 'retirement' hand written on it.  I thought these should be non-O? Something new or something I did not know?

 

What paperwork do I require to extend this if it is now correct?

 

I am 50 years old. Two children aged 3 and 14 years.

This is not normal and they should have been non 'O' visas. Are you sure they are 'B'?

 

You should still be able to apply of an extension of stay and would require the usual paperwork. The qualification is that you enter with a non immigrant visa, which you have. 

 

Maybe 'B's were issued by mistake which is why the added the reason for issue.

Hi elviajero,

Thanks for your reply. That's what I was thinking/hoping. As for the 'usual' paperwork. Last I extended I was not 50. I believe I need less paperwork than before? I did not bother extending my last one as the changes last year(before I was 50) required far to much globe-trotting, so I thought I would just wait till I was 50 and try again 

 

I cannot find any up to date information on what is now required. e.g. do I still need to re-register my marriage, done 15 years ago, and all the visits to various embassies and Bangkok etc to get letters and red stamps ? We did not get married in Thailand, but did register in Thailand 15 years ago, though now the local office that did the registration and changed my wife's family name on her ID card etc to mine have no record of it. Something about not having computers then. Whatever. My children's family names and both parents family names on birth certificates all match too. Just want to know exactly what they do now require that I am over 50.

Is it, as I have heard, just the birth certificates and wife's ID card?

 

As you are over 50 (retirement), the spouse and parent of a Thai it gives you two/three reasons you can apply for an extension of stay.

 

If you apply based on retirement the paperwork is less, but the financial requirements higher than applying as a spouse. If applying based on ......

Married to a Thai. You need a minimum income certified by your Embassy (easily done) of 40K baht or show 400K baht in a Thai bank account for two months prior to applying

Retirement. You need 65K pm certified income, or 800K baht in the Thai bank for 60 days, or you can use a combination of the two.

 

If you can meet the financial requirements for an extension based on retirement it's the easiest option. If you advise which method you want to proceed with someone can advise you what supporting paperwork is required.

Previously I had been extending as taking care of children, where there was a financial requirement without any period of time attached. I understand there is no financial requirement at all under visa extension rule 7.17,  once your over 50, but the new requirement added last year for proof of marriage is what requires all the legwork. I was wondering if that still applies to over 50's. If I must I can but it is a lot of time, effort and expense, all to get a letter from my local council office verifying our marriage (again).

 

If no one here has experience of this since last September then I will have to go tomorrow to apply for extension to find out so I have 5 months to get it all sorted out. Last year I was told one month and 3 weeks after application that they needed this so leaving me only a week. Given there are two letters from two embassies (country of origin and country of marriage), full translations of all documents (including passport. Go Figure!) and then red stamp all documents in Bangkok. to present to local council for this proof of marriage, you can see why I gave up with a week to do it in and just waited to see what is actually required when over 50.

 

I guess the only real question then here is, is this proof of marriage required for over 50's now? 

 

 

No, proof of marriage isn't required for an extension based on retirement (over 50).

 

This is a list of what will likely be asked for if applying based on retirement,

• Extension of Temporary Stay in The Kingdom Application Form (TM.7).
• One 6 x 4 cm photo.
• Updated bank book showing 800k baht in a Thai bank 60 days plus a letter from the bank confirming the balance OR a letter from your embassy certifying a minimum income of 65k baht OR a combination of the two. e.g Income 30K pm x 12 = 360K plus 440K in the bank.
• Copies of your passport; ID page, visa, entry/permit to stay stamp and TM6 departure card. Some offices may require a copy of every page of your passport that has a stamp or visa for Thailand.
• Proof of residence such as a rental agreement with a copy of the owners house book and ID card attached. Some offices may also require a Notification Form for House Master, Owner, or the Possessor of The Residence Where Aliens Have Stay (TM.30).
• Download Forms here:  http://www.immigration.go.th/nov2004/en/base.php?page=download

THX elviajero,

  but it will be required for child taking care of parent under extension rule 7.17 ?  And they will no longer accept the copy of marriage certificate and translation as they used to prior to last year?

You are not limited to the parent extension under clause 2.18(5)

 

Your other options are the marriage extension under 2.18(6) and the retirement extension under 2.22

 

The general requirements are in

Immigration Bureau Order 327/2557  basis for extension of stay, and

Immigration Bureau Order 138/2557 (2014) - extension documents en.pdf

Document source: http://goo.gl/Z3rUOW

Hi Maestro,

  Thanks for that. I have been looking for more updated information.

 

I see in the case I am talking about then the proof of relationship is with my child. This suggests then I should approach my local council office for that instead and see what they require. At worst I guess it should be one less Embassy to visit  If I  can avoid having to trek down to Bangkok at all it would save a lot of messing about.

Yes, check with your local immigration office, as implementation of some aspects of the rules can vary from one office to the other.

 

There was an error in my earlier post which I have now corrected. For the marriage and parent extensions, it is clause 2.18 for you, not clause 2.19

Got it. Thanks again. I will be starting on the required paperwork first thing, and getting my extension application in ASAP to give me plenty of time,  even take a couple runs at it if need be

 

wish me luck and ill let you know how I get on.

4 hours ago, BaDboD said:

Previously I had been extending as taking care of children, where there was a financial requirement without any period of time attached. I understand there is no financial requirement at all under visa extension rule 7.17,  once your over 50, but the new requirement added last year for proof of marriage is what requires all the legwork. I was wondering if that still applies to over 50's. If I must I can but it is a lot of time, effort and expense, all to get a letter from my local council office verifying our marriage (again).

 

If no one here has experience of this since last September then I will have to go tomorrow to apply for extension to find out so I have 5 months to get it all sorted out. Last year I was told one month and 3 weeks after application that they needed this so leaving me only a week. Given there are two letters from two embassies (country of origin and country of marriage), full translations of all documents (including passport. Go Figure!) and then red stamp all documents in Bangkok. to present to local council for this proof of marriage, you can see why I gave up with a week to do it in and just waited to see what is actually required when over 50.

 

I guess the only real question then here is, is this proof of marriage required for over 50's now? 

 

 

There is no longer a 7.17 clause since 2008 when if was changed to  2.18 for extensions based upon marriage and being the parent of a Thai. I think you are referring to the wording of the police order done in 2006 that allowed you to get an extension without financial proof if you were 50 or over which is no longer in newer police orders.

Dependent upon the immigration office you go to they will not allow you to get an extension based upon being the parent of a Thai if you are married to the mother of your child.

You and your wife to need to push the Amphoe to sort out the registration of your foreign marriage. They certainly had commuters 15 years ago. You should have a Kor Ror 22 to prove your foreign marriage registration.