Honda CRF 250L

[CMKiwi]

Yes it was the same place I got mine.  I went for the powder coated black version.  It was more of a plastic coat in reality.  In the 3 years of running about the coating never lifted. Amazing stuff.

 

Underneath it was aluminium and took a bit of a beating....but saved the motor.  Did it's job very well.

[properperson]

 

Are they still making the "M model ?

 

Any news about a "300" engine coming out ?

[pbas400]

no & no

[properperson]

8 hours ago, pbas400 said:

no & no

 

do you remember when the M was stopped ?

[Kwasaki]

8 hours ago, properperson said:

 

Are they still making the "M model ?

 

Any news about a "300" engine coming out ?

So you want another 37 cc. whow.

[Familyonthemove]

4 minutes ago, properperson said:

 

do you remember when the M was stopped ?

Early last year.  The last 'update' (new colours) was 2016.

 

I might be selling my low miles CRF250M - may be getting the BMW 310,  but not sure.

[canthai55]

1 hour ago, properperson said:

do you remember when the M was stopped ?

Sold my M late 2016. Bought a new 2017 L. No M available then. Bought 17's and had them installed from new. Never had the knobbies on the road.

[properperson]

29 minutes ago, canthai55 said:

Sold my M late 2016. Bought a new 2017 L. No M available then. Bought 17's and had them installed from new. Never had the knobbies on the road.

 

What sprockets you using for road use ?

 

 

[DDBKK]

easy enough to stroke the engine and retrofit supermoto wheels. 

 

Get a lighter exhaust, fuel programmer, open up the airbox and away you go

[canthai55]

On 4/3/2018 at 8:08 PM, properperson said:

What sprockets you using for road use ?

Running CB500X wheels. Stock front - 14 - and stock rear - 41

CRF runs 14/40 stock

Edited April 5, 2018 by canthai55

[Kwasaki]

3 hours ago, canthai55 said:

CRF runs 14/40 stock

Yep find the OME on the new bike fine for road use.

[properperson]

3 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

Yep find the OME on the new bike fine for road use.

 

i've heard 13/40 better.....

[Kwasaki]

5 hours ago, properperson said:

 

i've heard 13/40 better.....

Well there's no go in 6th with 14/40 do you really think 1 tooth less will make that much of a difference ??

[properperson]

1 minute ago, Kwasaki said:

Well there's no go in 6th with 14/40 do you really think 1 tooth less will make that much of a difference ??

 

apparently yes ! according to many learned folk on t'internet.

[papa al]

23 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

Well there's no go in 6th with 14/40 do you really think 1 tooth less will make that much of a difference ??

like 7% difference in gear ratio 13 vs 14t.

;-)

[Kwasaki]

47 minutes ago, papa al said:

like 7% difference in gear ratio 13 vs 14t.

;-)

Happy with it how it is OK for road use in Thailand, want some more ump drop a couple of gears.  

CRF is only a little 250 if you want CBR250RR then buy one. 

Edited April 6, 2018 by Kwasaki

[papa al]

 

5 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

Happy with it how it is OK for road use in Thailand, want some more ump drop a couple of gears.  

CRF is only a little 250 if you want CBR250RR then buy one. 

okay

not going to buy a CBR250RR.

Will stick with ceeber150.

Thanks for the granting me permission tho.

Edited April 6, 2018 by papa al

[properperson]

On 4/6/2018 at 6:17 PM, Kwasaki said:

Well there's no go in 6th with 14/40 do you really think 1 tooth less will make that much of a difference ??

 

Grasped the nettle and bought a s/h 250M - rode the bike 75km home on standard sprockets, standard seat and standard IRC tyres....

 

All three needed changing / fettling.....

 

First change was to fit a 13T front sprocket (while i was at it removed the air box snorkle and metal screen from the air filter) - Wow what a change for such a small outlay - mid range acceleration greatly improved, bike feels livelier  and much more responsive in 6th gear - The air box mods give a nice induction "roar" ...

 

Second was the seat - local upholstry man cut out a  section of the rock hard foam and replaced it with memory foam, recovered and matching twin stitching - a snip at 700 baht....

 

Then on to the tyres - the standard IRC's didn't inspire much confidence - Went for Pirelli Angel GT's (110 front - went for 140 on the rear which looks a lot chunkier) - 3,500 baht the pair fitted / balanced - The improvement is stonking - feels like you're riding a stunt bike....

 

Also ordered a new custom set of decals which i'm hoping will be here / fitted next week.....

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[CMKiwi]

Get an EJK and original FMF header pipe and muffler...then you'll really make the bike come alive.

 

Agree re the airbox mod. Let's the engine breathe easier.  A lifetime stainless steel air filter is also available (Sorry can't remember brand).

 

Its a fun bike but I'm now looking fwd to heading back to NZ and getting my hands on a 2nd hand Aprilia SXV 450. Pity it's getting cold in NZ (Love the Thai weather for riding)....but that means people are dropping asking prices to sell their bikes prior to winter.

 

Their loss my gain.

 

Hope you enjoy the 250m

 

Edit: Hurricane is the brand for the s/s air filter

Edited April 8, 2018 by CMKiwi
Additional info

[properperson]

2 minutes ago, CMKiwi said:

Get an EJK and original FMF header pipe and muffler...then you'll really make the bike come alive.

 

Agree re the airbox mod. Let's the engine breathe easier.  A lifetime stainless steel air filter is also available (Sorry can't remember brand).

 

Its a fun bike but I'm now looking fwd to heading back to NZ and getting my hands on a 2nd hand Aprilia SXV 450. Pity it's getting cold in NZ (Love the Thai weather for riding)....but that means people are dropping asking prices to sell their bikes prior to winter.

 

Their loss my gain.

 

Hope you enjoy the 250m

 

I agree - have had a "jollied up" 250M before (EJK, air box mod, 13T, mega bomb & Q4 FMF pipe)  which i bought s/h fully fettled (see pic)....and the performance was stonking....

 

The guy that fitted the 13T sprocket to my new bike does the EJK's, Mega Bomb and FMF pipe and gave me a quote to supply / fit all three for 20,000 baht out the door ....

 

Whilst i'd quite like the extra grunt, the main problem is the noise and the fact you can see it has been modified - The Police round Pattaya will use any excuse to stop you and the thought of the 1,000 b a pop fine means i'll leave the bike how it is....

 

The tyres / 13T sprocket / air box mods are enough to enjoy the bike round the back road twisties - its never going to be the star of the dual carrigdeways, nor is it a long didtance tourer - but i didn't buy it for that...

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[CMKiwi]

Yep sir, that's what I had also. Mega bomb and Q4 muffler.  I was lucky to pick one up second hand for 8500 baht.  Did a repack of the muffler myself, although it didn't need it.

 

Had Pirellis too. Put a Stebel nautilus compact airhorn on with airhorn a 2 way switch to appease the police.

 

Only got stopped once re the muffler...but luckily no fine. Maybe for once Chiang Mai cops aren't the worst.

[Kwasaki]

4 hours ago, properperson said:

 

Grasped the nettle and bought a s/h 250M - rode the bike 75km home on standard sprockets, standard seat and standard IRC tyres....

 

All three needed changing / fettling.....

 

First change was to fit a 13T front sprocket (while i was at it removed the air box snorkle and metal screen from the air filter) - Wow what a change for such a small outlay - mid range acceleration greatly improved, bike feels livelier  and much more responsive in 6th gear - The air box mods give a nice induction "roar" ...

Then on to the tyres - the standard IRC's didn't inspire much confidence - Went for Pirelli Angel GT's (110 front - went for 140 on the rear which looks a lot chunkier) - 3,500 baht the pair fitted / balanced - The improvement is stonking - feels like you're riding a stunt bike....

 

Everyone to their own on personalizing bikes and well glad your all good if your happy.

I chose to buy new the 250L for many reason over s/h because of Honda's upgrade and didn't want an M type so I'm happy with the OME equipped L.

When the knobbly tyres wear out I'll get Dunlop trailmax because I'm mainly a road biker but that said some of the roads I've been on in the 1000 K's I've done so far just like my Versys I was glad to be on this little bike.

When the air-filter needs renewing I'll get a K&N.

After having 650, 1000's & 1200 bike most my life to get gains on the little 250 won't do much for me,  I'm impressed by the acceleration in the lower gears and the high rev range as it is.

I'll just have to make do with the 140 top end, it's about time for me I guess to know my limitation.  

Edited April 8, 2018 by Kwasaki

[canthai55]

Before you buy a K and N read this ...

Compared to the AC, the K&N “plugged up” nearly 3 times faster, passed 18 times more dirt and captured 37% less dirt. See the data tables for a complete summary of these comparisons.

http://nicoclub.com/archives/kn-vs-oem-filter.html

A duramax diesel was used for testing, but this is immaterial. the summary sentence above speaks for itself.

Edited April 8, 2018 by canthai55

[Kwasaki]

24 minutes ago, canthai55 said:

Before you buy a K and N read this ...

Compared to the AC, the K&N “plugged up” nearly 3 times faster, passed 18 times more dirt and captured 37% less dirt. See the data tables for a complete summary of these comparisons.

http://nicoclub.com/archives/kn-vs-oem-filter.html

A duramax diesel was used for testing, but this is immaterial. the summary sentence above speaks for itself.

I must of meant change to AC a typo mistake but close. 

 

Yeah thanks for info always good to find out these things.

In my now ancient experienced history I always cringe a bit on claims of gains of changing things and doing this and doing that to a OME motorcycle.

My Fireblade I did track days on was improved a bit with carb things & a race box fitted but keeping the engine as OME.

The only way I detected an improvement apart from the noise  was my lap times were quicker.

[thaiguzzi]

2 hours ago, canthai55 said:

Before you buy a K and N read this ...

Compared to the AC, the K&N “plugged up” nearly 3 times faster, passed 18 times more dirt and captured 37% less dirt. See the data tables for a complete summary of these comparisons.

http://nicoclub.com/archives/kn-vs-oem-filter.html

A duramax diesel was used for testing, but this is immaterial. the summary sentence above speaks for itself.

Interesting. Obviously written by an AC sales rep....

[canthai55]

21 minutes ago, thaiguzzi said:

Interesting. Obviously written by an AC sales rep....

"The test was independently performed under controlled conditions using a $285,000 machine at Testand Corp of Rhode Island (manufacturer of the machine)."

Just shows that the whole aftermarket air filter game is just a hoax - kind of like the Amsoil game. Or the $1000 helmet game. Hype to suck in the gullible.

 

[thaiguzzi]

50 minutes ago, canthai55 said:

"The test was independently performed under controlled conditions using a $285,000 machine at Testand Corp of Rhode Island (manufacturer of the machine)."

Just shows that the whole aftermarket air filter game is just a hoax - kind of like the Amsoil game. Or the $1000 helmet game. Hype to suck in the gullible.

 

Only joshin'...

[canthai55]

More independent tests ...

http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/airfilter/airtest3.htm

[DDBKK]

Aftermarket air filters on these bikes is completely pointless imo. Worst thing to spend any money on. May as well go buy a homeless guy some leo instead

[Kwasaki]

Did 1 adjustment today on the CRF at APS Honda outlet getting 1000K service & check & 510 baht.

I had been using screwdriver & hammer adjusting preload because apparently you need special tools, they did not have the tools either so they took the shock assembly out.

Got max preload, feels good on the road.