FBI reopens probe into Hillary Clinton's emails

[JHolmesJr]

Comey has acted in the interests of justice...better now than, god forbid, if crooked h gets elected because the idea of both the husband and the wife having impeachment proceedings started against them as president would be a record that would never be broken. 

Edited October 30, 2016 by JHolmesJr

[Pinot]

This scandal was over two hours after it broke and the trumpeteers continue the victory parade. 

 

 

[keemapoot]

12 minutes ago, Dagnabbit said:

 

So he's confirmed that he's taking a bribe from the GOP to do this?

Your comprehension skills are sorely lacking.


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Yeah, that's what graduating from a top law school gives you - sorely lacking comprehension skills. 

 

The way things work in sophisticated circles, not that I'd expect someone like you to know this, is that high level guarantees are given by trusted parties for loyalty. They are structured so they can never be legally construed as a bribe. Someone is protecting Comey.

[JHolmesJr]

7 hours ago, Publicus said:

And not only is this the election of the Potus, it is the profound choice between the radical wildman ignoramus Donald Trump and His Republicans vs the opposite of Trump, the fit and qualified nominee of the Democratic party Hillary Clinton.

 

The locus of the present developments are that Comey has suddenly and with a great surprise to everyone thrown himself in with the email skid row junkies and that he's done it several days out from a general election that will choose the 45th Potus.

 

Comey's Coup. Anyone who claims this isn't about J.B. Comey is in a political and partisan denial.

 

 

Its an election for the prez, not poster of the year.....Which is exactly why comey has refrained from dragging his heels....

 

unprecedented crimes call for unprecedented action. 

[JHolmesJr]

1 minute ago, Pinot said:

This scandal was over two hours after it broke and the trumpeteers continue the victory parade. 

 

 

 

Somehow the panic in crooked h and podesta's shrill protests dont seem to point that way. 

[bokningar]

On 10/29/2016 at 9:27 AM, whatproblem said:

I think the yanks need to get some balls and vote Trump ,we voted out Europe ,too long have the people been asleep

You did WHAT? 

What did you vote Europe out of ????  

You voted UK out of Europe. 

Right or wrong I do not care, but at least try to understand what happened.

Maybe you voted Scotland out of UK, but that is a different thing 

[Pinot]

Just now, JHolmesJr said:

 

Somehow the panic in crooked h and podesta's shrill protests dont seem to point that way. 

 

Panic? Please...bemusement. 

 

Go ahead, try and make something of this. Anyone who actually cares about this nonsense know the truth by now, as usual nothing there. 

 

HRC in a landslide. Nothing can be done to stop it. First order of business? Fire the idiot FBI director, Obama signed to be nonpartisan. You see where that move gets you. Republicans can't be trusted to throw a child's birthday party let alone run a government office. What a fool.

 

I wonder if Comey will come clean on Monday morning in a last ditch effort to save his scalp because it's on the chopping block.  

[JHolmesJr]

The L-word

 

many think its landslide

 

but its actually lulled

[sgtsabai]

Clinton, undeserving as she is will still be the next president and the next lesser of 2 evils, by a pubic hair. There is zero evidence of wrong doing, so far. Comey will be fired, rightly so, and Clinton will face impeachment within the first 100 days, 2nd 100 days and forever until we have have a real president, not a psychopath neo-fascist nor a neocon/neoliberal tool of Wall Street criminals/banksters and the industrial/military/spy/Congressional Congressional cabal. The best thing that could happen to the US now is both candidates and their vp picks run off a cliff and let us start over again on this debacle of an election.

[keemapoot]

1 minute ago, Pinot said:

 

Panic? Please...bemusement. 

 

Go ahead, try and make something of this. Anyone who actually cares about this nonsense know the truth by now, as usual nothing there. 

 

HRC in a landslide. Nothing can be done to stop it. First order of business? Fire the idiot FBI director, Obama signed to be nonpartisan. You see where that move gets you. Republicans can't be trusted to throw a child's birthday party let alone run a government office. What a fool.

 

I wonder if Comey will come clean on Monday morning in a last ditch effort to save his scalp because it's on the chopping block.  

 

I'm not sure it will be a landslide, but it will be a significant margin of victory. Certain the magnitude of the win will be less than before this Comey move.

 

Comey is all in. There is no coming clean. There is no going back. He's going the distance with this one. His scalp is already safe as he will have a safe landing place.

[CWMcMurray]

 

In the meantime, you my friend need to read the posts between myself and the long-time TV member McMurray. He and I specifically and only discuss the DoJ 60 day practice of not doing anything political within 60 days of an election. When I said in reply to the poster's question, there should be a law, I was specifically referring to this DoJ practice becoming encoded as law.

 

Sixty days, ninety days, either would be fine. Something specific that applies specifically and precisely to the Department of Justice (as well as other agencies). This kind of law would be clear, direct, simple. Hatch Act is old, thick, complicated and convoluted.

 

 

While I understand the motive to avoid unduly influencing an election, such a law would not be a simple matter

First off, is it all law agencies at all levels? Or just DOJ?

What if any public safety concerns?

Obviously there are no public safety concerns in this case, but what if some future candidate was suspected of murder or or rape? Do the police have a responsibility to pursue the issue immediately?

Let's say Weiner was running for congress or president when they found the sexting with the 15 year old? Does he get a free pass and get to continue to do so until the election is over?

Or even if some white collar crime, what if it was something that was an ongoing crime? Should the victims be forced to continue being victimized just because the offender is running for office?

Or what if it is a real case of espionage that state secrets are in process of being lost to foreign governments? Should they get a pass and be allowed to Continue selling state secrets until after the election is over?

Also in the case of any of the above.. If the DOJ or police officers know or suspect these types of things.. Do the public have the right to know prior to voting?

Now this case is none of the things mentioned above , except maybe the last about whether or not the public should have the right to know if a candidate is under investigation , but if we are considering a Law ...

As a balance would need To be struck between public safety , the rule of law, the right of voters to have full information and the possible abuse of

Power by some to try and unduly influence an election

Then all of the above need to be considered and discussed. As I am not opposed outright to such a law but would depend greatly on how such a law would be written and the specific details.

At the end of the day, I honestly

do not believe this will effect the election results in this election

At least not unless the FBI came out before the election with an indictment or more specific details of a 'smoking gun ' email or similar.

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[Publicus]

 

Kurt Eichenwald writes for Newsweek and for Vanity Fair....

 

 

 

✔@kurteichenwald

If Comey doesn't get ahead of this, going to have a mutiny at @FBI. "This is why u say 'We dont talk about investigations'" one told me....

1:26 PM - 29 Oct 2016

 

 

 

 

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Word from inside @FBI. FURIOUS at Comey, think he's mishandled public revelations from get go. "Outrageous incompetence" one agent told me.

 

 

 

There is also this about senior DoJ officials having to calm down a number of agents...

 

“Senior Justice Department officials warned the FBI that Director James Comey’s decision to notify Congress about renewing the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s private email server was not consistent with long-standing practices of the department,” the Washington Post reports.

[Publicus]

Kurt Eichenwald writes for Newsweek and for Vanity Fair....

 

 

 

✔@kurteichenwald

If Comey doesn't get ahead of this, going to have a mutiny at @FBI. "This is why u say 'We dont talk about investigations'" one told me....

1:26 PM - 29 Oct 2016

 

 

 

 

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Word from inside @FBI. FURIOUS at Comey, think he's mishandled public revelations from get go. "Outrageous incompetence" one agent told me.

 

 

 

There is also this about senior DoJ officials having to calm down a number of agents...

 

“Senior Justice Department officials warned the FBI that Director James Comey’s decision to notify Congress about renewing the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s private email server was not consistent with long-standing practices of the department,” the Washington Post reports.

[Anthony5]

6 minutes ago, Publicus said:

Kurt Eichenwald writes for Newsweek and for Vanity Fair....

 

 

 

✔@kurteichenwald

If Comey doesn't get ahead of this, going to have a mutiny at @FBI. "This is why u say 'We dont talk about investigations'" one told me....

1:26 PM - 29 Oct 2016

 

 

 

 

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Kurt EichenwaldVerified account‏@kurteichenwald

Word from inside @FBI. FURIOUS at Comey, think he's mishandled public revelations from get go. "Outrageous incompetence" one agent told me.

 

 

 

There is also this about senior DoJ officials having to calm down a number of agents...

 

“Senior Justice Department officials warned the FBI that Director James Comey’s decision to notify Congress about renewing the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s private email server was not consistent with long-standing practices of the department,” the Washington Post reports.

 

 

Looks more and more as if Comey has lifted the lid from the pot many wanted to keep covered, because the smell that comes out of it is unbearable for the Democrats.

[Ulysses G.]

5 hours ago, CWMcMurray said:

Was watching some clips on this and saw a story where reporting was interviewing people who are voting early in Florida

The reporter said that almost all interviewed have said that this coming out has not effected their vote.

Those for Trump advised it just re-enforced their decision

Those voting for Hillary advised no effect

If this is true then is not good news for Trump

And this was on Fox News... So none can claim is some liberal media thing
 

 

It just came out and many voters are not aware of it yet. Don't worry there is a!most 2 weeks for it to sink in.

[Dagnabbit]

 
Yeah, that's what graduating from a top law school gives you - sorely lacking comprehension skills. 
 
The way things work in sophisticated circles, not that I'd expect someone like you to know this, is that high level guarantees are given by trusted parties for loyalty. They are structured so they can never be legally construed as a bribe. Someone is protecting Comey.

In other words, you are making stuff up.

Wouldn't expect anything else from a lawyer to be honest.

Now, if you could provide some evidence that Comey has switched from Dems Golden Boy to Grand Pariah because he's been paid off - I'm all ears.

But no - all bluster and no substance. Hence your desperate attempt to look smart with tales of law school. That does not make up for lack of fact, if you were smarter, you would know that.


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[JHolmesJr]

30 minutes ago, Publicus said:

 

 

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"Outrageous incompetence" one agent told me.

 

 

 

We know who this agent reports to…..hehe.

[Morch]

5 hours ago, Boon Mee said:

Gangster Government.

They thought they were all above the fray - no accountability.  Blows one's mind how a bunch a amateurs like these were in Washington last eight years. 

 

How does this reflect on the GOP failing to lodge them from the Washington during the last eight years?

[Ulysses G.]

2 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

How does this reflect on the GOP failing to lodge them from the Washington during the last eight years?

 

Not easy fighting a corrupt MSM backing the democrats. The dishonest liberal media have a lot answer for.

[Publicus]

6 minutes ago, Anthony5 said:

 

 

Looks more and more as if Comey has lifted the lid from the pot many wanted to keep covered, because the smell that comes out of it is unbearable for the Democrats.

 

Of course we over on this side object, as we would be expected to object to Comey's letter.

 

Your characterisation is your own over there on the far out right.

 

More than Democrats are objecting to the Comey Election Coup Attempt....

 

 

New York Times: Justice Dept. Strongly Discouraged Comey on Move in Clinton Email Case: “Mr. Comey’s letter opened him up to criticism not only from Democrats but also from current and former officials at the F.B.I. and the Justice Department, including Republicans. ‘There’s a longstanding policy of not doing anything that could influence an election,’ said George J. Terwilliger III, a deputy attorney general under the first President George Bush. ‘Those guidelines exist for a reason. Sometimes that makes for hard decisions. But bypassing them has consequences.’”

 

 

Politico: Comey’s disclosure shocks former prosecutors: “James Comey’s surprise announcement that investigators are examining new evidence in the probe of Hillary Clinton’s email server put the FBI director back under a harsh spotlight, reigniting criticism of his unusual decision to discuss the high-profile case in front of the media and two congressional committees.”

 

 

Los Angeles Times: “The emails were not to or from Clinton, and contained information that appeared to be more of what agents had already uncovered, the official said, but in an abundance of caution, they felt they needed to further scrutinize them.

 

New York Times Editorial: “But Mr. Comey’s failure to provide any specifics about a new, potentially important development, less than two weeks before Election Day, is confounding. As Mr. Comey put it in July: “The American people deserve those details in a case of intense public interest.” They deserve details even more urgently today.”

 

 

Bloomberg: FBI Shocker on Clinton Fuels Criticism of Comey’s Tactics: “FBI Director James Comey is facing extraordinary pressure to explain himself after dropping a bombshell on the campaign of Hillary Clinton just 11 days before the presidential election… Former prosecutors and lawmakers from both parties expressed shock and dismay at Comey’s highly unusual decision, which flouted decades of legal custom that call for avoiding taking actions that could affect the outcome of an election.

 

Anyone who thinks this is just run of the mill politics is missing a hell of a lot. Btw, still laughing over here at your posts that the NSA has the 30,000 emails and HRC out there in Syria digging the new pipeline. One can always rely on the mass of highly funded right wing media to liven things up. 

[212Roger]

13 hours ago, AYJAYDEE said:

so maybe YOU will give me odds??

 

To repeat what I said a month ago.  "If Hillary wins, I'm off this forum for life."  Will you make the same promise if she loses?  You type about gambling but are you willing to gamble?  Old Spanish proverb:  "There's a difference between bull-fighting and talking about bull-fighting."

[Morch]

8 minutes ago, Ulysses G. said:

 

Not easy fighting a corrupt MSM backing the democrats. The dishonest liberal media have a lot answer for.

 

Ah, it's all the media, then. Nothing to do with the merit of candidates, policies or votes.

Still sounds lame considering the "bunch a amateurs" remark.

[Publicus]

38 minutes ago, Ulysses G. said:

 

It just came out and many voters are not aware of it yet. Don't worry there is a!most 2 weeks for it to sink in.

 

Youse guyz and your guy Trump are already sunk.

 

And after Trump wins that dishonest media are going to be held to account, for sure. Lotta scores to settle over the course of the lifetime of the right wing eh. Across the board.

[Anthony5]

7 minutes ago, Publicus said:

 

Of course we over on this side object, as we would be expected to object to Comey's letter.

 

Your characterisation is your own over there on the far out right.

 

More than Democrats are objecting to the Comey Election Coup Attempt....

 

 

New York Times: Justice Dept. Strongly Discouraged Comey on Move in Clinton Email Case: “Mr. Comey’s letter opened him up to criticism not only from Democrats but also from current and former officials at the F.B.I. and the Justice Department, including Republicans. ‘There’s a longstanding policy of not doing anything that could influence an election,’ said George J. Terwilliger III, a deputy attorney general under the first President George Bush. ‘Those guidelines exist for a reason. Sometimes that makes for hard decisions. But bypassing them has consequences.’”

 

 

Politico: Comey’s disclosure shocks former prosecutors: “James Comey’s surprise announcement that investigators are examining new evidence in the probe of Hillary Clinton’s email server put the FBI director back under a harsh spotlight, reigniting criticism of his unusual decision to discuss the high-profile case in front of the media and two congressional committees.”

 

 

Los Angeles Times: “The emails were not to or from Clinton, and contained information that appeared to be more of what agents had already uncovered, the official said, but in an abundance of caution, they felt they needed to further scrutinize them.

 

New York Times Editorial: “But Mr. Comey’s failure to provide any specifics about a new, potentially important development, less than two weeks before Election Day, is confounding. As Mr. Comey put it in July: “The American people deserve those details in a case of intense public interest.” They deserve details even more urgently today.”

 

 

Bloomberg: FBI Shocker on Clinton Fuels Criticism of Comey’s Tactics: “FBI Director James Comey is facing extraordinary pressure to explain himself after dropping a bombshell on the campaign of Hillary Clinton just 11 days before the presidential election… Former prosecutors and lawmakers from both parties expressed shock and dismay at Comey’s highly unusual decision, which flouted decades of legal custom that call for avoiding taking actions that could affect the outcome of an election.

 

Anyone who thinks this is just run of the mill politics is missing a hell of a lot. Btw, still laughing over here at your posts that the NSA has the 30,000 emails and HRC out there in Syria digging the new pipeline. One can always rely on the mass of highly funded right wing media to liven things up. 

 

 

Nothing far right with my comments. Comey is simply covering his own arse, reporting to congress so nobody can blame him afterwards that he tried to silence the whole thing.

 

Los Angeles times is even better. Comey has reported that the don't know yet how serious the news discovery is, but the LAT times seems already to know the whole content of the new discovery.

 

Oh and of course Comey facing pressure now, but by who. By those who see their lying baby exposed for what she really is. They hadn't counted on the new discovery of course. But wait, look at my other post about Kim Dotcom. NSA has the emails, so most probably Wikileaks has them  also, and they are just timing the release because they want to prevent there is enough time to have Hilary pardoned by Obama between her arrest and the elections

[Ulysses G.]

30 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

Ah, it's all the media, then. Nothing to do with the merit of candidates, policies or votes.

Still sounds lame considering the "bunch a amateurs" remark.

 

There is a well known media bias to the left. That is a proven fact. 

 

Don't know what your "amateurs" remark refers to.  Are you confusing me with someone else?

 

http://www.westernjournalism.com/top-50-examples-liberal-media-bias/

Edited October 30, 2016 by Ulysses G.

[Publicus]

38 minutes ago, Ulysses G. said:

 

It just came out and many voters are not aware of it yet. Don't worry there is a!most 2 weeks for it to sink in.

 

Youse guyz and your guy Trump are already sunk.

 

And after Trump wins that dishonest media are going to be held to account, for sure. Lotta scores to settle over the course of the lifetime of the right wing eh. Across the board.

[Ulysses G.]

10 minutes ago, Publicus said:

 

Youse guyz and your guy Trump are already sunk.

 

 

• Anyone who reads your posts knows that is your story and you will stick to it no matter what. 

[AYJAYDEE]

28 minutes ago, 212Roger said:

To repeat what I said a month ago.  "If Hillary wins, I'm off this forum for life."  Will you make the same promise if she loses?  You type about gambling but are you willing to gamble?  Old Spanish proverb:  "There's a difference between bull-fighting and talking about bull-fighting."

 

not life

[212Roger]

2 minutes ago, AYJAYDEE said:

not life

Aha!  You have doubts!

[AYJAYDEE]

Just now, 212Roger said:

Aha!  You have doubts!

only a fool doesnt