10 Reasons Not To Put Nitrogen In Your Tyres.

[transam]

3 minutes ago, Don Mega said:

 

What color were the valve stems ?

No idea..Can't remember..

[Don Mega]

3 minutes ago, transam said:

No idea..Can't remember..

did you lube the seals or screw em in dry ?

[transam]

2 minutes ago, Don Mega said:

did you lube the seals or screw em in dry ?

No idea, my performance wheel folk did all that....Why do you ask...?

[Don Mega]

Just now, transam said:

No idea, my performance wheel folk did all that....Why do you ask...?

 

 

Well we have heard so much abut this beast in detail so often I thought we might get into some of the details you never mention.

[transam]

1 minute ago, Don Mega said:

 

 

Well we have heard so much abut this beast in detail so often I thought we might get into some of the details you never mention.

Tyre fitment was left to the professionals as I did not have the equipment, same as engine internal machine work and balancing of engine stuff, same as most hobbyists.

[gdgbb]

On 11/19/2016 at 6:33 PM, Kwasaki said:

 

Totally wrong expense has everything to do with it and it is not scam it's a choice.

You need to do more research.

Proof of pudding in eating as l say N2 is a benefit to me and l don't give a fling what you think.

"Totally wrong expense has everything to do with it..."

You didn't read what I said about expense correctly.

 

If claims are being made about the benefits of nitrogen in tyres that cannot be justified, or even significantly measured, and a charge is being made for it, it is a scam.  But you're right, it's you're choice to be scammed.

 

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[gdgbb]

On 19/11/2016 at 6:52 PM, bikerlou47 said:

Nitrogen molecules sre larger than "air"

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You're right but what difference does that make and how much bigger are they? 

[gdgbb]

20 hours ago, transam said:

As Kwaks and myself have noticed tyre pressures stay near what they should be using N2 perhaps folk should take note as we don't tell porkies...But, have a read of this and it might enlighten,,,

http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/how-to/a3894/4302788/

 

From that article..." So, to answer your specific questions: With nitrogen, your tire pressures will remain more constant...There will be less moisture inside your tires, meaning less corrosion on your wheels..."

 

That conclusion of the article made 2 assertions, first, that tyre pressures will be more constant, without any rational reason for that being the case!  and, secondly, that there will be less corrosion on (the inside of) your wheels.  Well just how much of a problem is water-induced rotting of wheels from the inside?  DELETED

 

[gdgbb]

15 hours ago, Don Mega said:

Ohh Ok, so different compound tire are more porous than others.

 

Where the Hoosiers radials  or rags ?

Or, much more likely, the Hoosiers weren't sealing as well as the others. 

 

What reputable manufacturer is going to risk producing tyres for use in extreme circumstances such as racing that are noticeably more porous than their competitor's tyres?

[Anythingleft?]

Just a little too gimmicky for me, when I feel the need to check my tyres I'm at the compressor point as it is
The minimal advantage doesnt sway it enough for me but each to their own

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[transam]

Considering I can get nitrogen free in LOS it is a no-brainer. This guy sums it up for me...

 

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[Naam]

i think it is very dangerous to fill your tires with Nitroglycerin

[transam]

6 minutes ago, Naam said:

i think it is very dangerous to fill your tires with Nitroglycerin

Yep, you have to use a funnel....

[Kwasaki]

7 hours ago, gdgbb said:

If claims are being made about the benefits of nitrogen in tyres that cannot be justified, or even significantly measured, and a charge is being made for it, it is a scam. 

 

I don't see your point at all about nitrogen being a " scam " in Thailand.

Also l don't know why you are being so argumentative and rant on about what some people see as a free " benefit " of choice in Thailand.

I can " justify " why l use nitrogen in car tyres and in big motorcycle tyres and it's " measured " over months with my own tyre gauge.

If you think it's not necessary to use nitrogen, OK fine,  stick with the " air " choice.

[Kwasaki]

1 hour ago, Naam said:

i think it is very dangerous to fill your tires with Nitroglycerin

 

Shush !     You'll give ISIS another car bomb idea.  

[transam]

Don't tell you know who but Helium can pass through glass...

[gdgbb]

2 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

 

I don't see your point at all about nitrogen being a " scam " in Thailand.

Also l don't know why you are being so argumentative and rant on about what some people see as a free " benefit " of choice in Thailand.

I can " justify " why l use nitrogen in car tyres and in big motorcycle tyres and it's " measured " over months with my own tyre gauge.

If you think it's not necessary to use nitrogen, OK fine,  stick with the " air " choice.

You have your opinion and can do as you want while flying in the face of scientific fact, as you are entitled to do.

 

As I have been saying all along, not ranting, my point is that nitrogen doesn't measurably do any, and cannot do any, of the things claimed for it in terms of road users so if it charged for it is a scam.

[transam]

1 minute ago, gdgbb said:

You have your opinion and can do as you want while flying in the face of scientific fact, as you are entitled to do.

 

As I have been saying all along, not ranting, my point is that nitrogen doesn't measurably do any, and cannot do any, of the things claimed for it in terms of road users so if it charged for it is a scam.

Oh dear.......

[Kwasaki]

6 minutes ago, transam said:

Oh dear.......

 

I don't get it either dunno whether it be scientific fact or not maybe it is but put in simpleton terms even though l have Irish blood,   my tyres stay at within pressure 3-4 times longer using nitrogen than they do using air.

 

What am l missing here. ? 

[transam]

1 minute ago, Kwasaki said:

 

I don't get it either dunno whether it be scientific fact or not maybe it is but put in simpleton terms even though l have Irish blood,   my tyres stay at within pressure 3-4 times longer using nitrogen than they do using air.

 

What am l missing here. ? 

You are missing nothing...But there is a bloke that does not agree with the facts out there...AND, thinks we pay for the proven facts.....

[fullcave]

I use a special mixture of 79/21, it costs a little more but it's well worth it..... 

[Don Mega]

You guys that do use Nitrogen, how do you purge the oxygen from inside the tire ?

[gdgbb]

On 21/11/2016 at 2:04 PM, Kwasaki said:

 

I don't get it either dunno whether it be scientific fact or not maybe it is but put in simpleton terms even though l have Irish blood,   my tyres stay at within pressure 3-4 times longer using nitrogen than they do using air.

 

What am l missing here. ? 

What you are missing is the answer to the obvious question, "how is that possible given exactly the same tyre, wheel, seal and valve?" 

 

What you are saying is that the air in those same tyres escapes (what other way can pressures can reduce?) 3-4 times faster than nitrogen.  How?

[transam]

6 minutes ago, gdgbb said:

What you are missing is the answer to the obvious question, "how is that possible given exactly the same tyre, wheel, seal and valve?" 

 

What you are saying is that the air in those same tyres escapes (what other way can pressures can reduce?) 3-4 times faster than nitrogen.  How?

YOU haven't read any links I have posted...Rascal....

 

[gdgbb]

Just now, transam said:

YOU haven't read any links I have posted...Rascal....

 

 

Read them all, I don't think you have read them carefully though. 

 

None of the links, or any of the Thaivisa nitrogen supporter's personal experiences, can answer the question in my last post.  How is what you are claiming possible?

[transam]

Just now, gdgbb said:

Read them all, I don't think you have read them carefully though. 

 

None of the links, or any of the Thaivisa nitrogen supporter's personal experiences, can answer the question in my last post.  How is what you are claiming possible?

If you do not believe me and others....Well that's your problem....

[gdgbb]

38 minutes ago, transam said:

If you do not believe me and others....Well that's your problem....

It's not a problem for me at all.  But why should I believe your claims when there is no scientific evidence to support them? 

[transam]

10 minutes ago, gdgbb said:

It's not a problem for me at all.  But why should I believe your claims when there is no scientific evidence to support them? 

You ain't read the links have you.....naughty...

 

[Kwasaki]

1 hour ago, gdgbb said:

What you are missing is the answer to the obvious question, "how is that possible given exactly the same tyre, wheel, seal and valve?" 

 

What you are saying is that the air in those same tyres escapes (what other way can pressures can reduce?) 3-4 times faster than nitrogen.  How?

 

I'm not missing anything you are and l  don't agreed with the 10 vid reasons other than cost.

As l have said before proof of pudding is in the eating.

Unless you try it out for yourself in your own vehicles how would you know what l have experienced that is a perfectly reasonable thing to ask of you.

That way you will have your own scientific facts recorded.