Appeals Court upholds death penalty for Koh Tao murders

[sanemax]

7 minutes ago, bannork said:

So why has the Scottish guy Sean McAnna not come forward ? He was last known to be living in Italy with his girlfriend.

Maybe he was part of the initial attack, which would make him an accessory to murder .

   Maybe he didnt try to stop the attack at all ?

He also wouldnt want to go back to Ko Samui and testify .

And no one there would want him to either

[xylophone]

2 hours ago, bannork said:

So who did the blonde hair Hannah was clutching belong to? Presumably that means not dyed, ie a Westerner.

And has no journalist tried to chase up the Scottish  guitarist with blood all over his guitar since he fled to Italy/ 

If I recall correctly there was a photograph of one of the Thai lowlife's in the bar (or associated with the bar) who was wearing a blonde wig. Perhaps he was wearing that at the time of the murder, just to mock the poor innocent young woman, because she spurned his advances or those of his friend.

 

 

[Srikcir]

37 minutes ago, balo said:

Funny most of you only mention Thais as the real killers, the island was full of foreigners and migrant workers. We have a lot of suspects if B2 is innocent.

Among the initial possible suspects was a British man believed to have shared a room with one of the murdered backpackers, a Asian man captured on CCTV running in the direction where the bodies of the young tourists were later discovered, a musician who performed in the bars, and members of the bar staff. At least six migrant workers were questioned and later released as part of the inquiry. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/thailand-beach-murders-british-man-being-questioned-after-brutal-killing-of-hannah-witheridge-and-9737231.html

Local police immediately ruled out the possibility that Thais might have been the culprits because Thai people were simply not capable of committing such heinous acts of violence. Instead, authorities immediately blamed, without evidence, other backpackers and the community of illegal Burmese guest workers http://thediplomat.com/2014/10/thailand-murder-in-the-land-of-smiles/

And the rest is history.

[DaveE13]

42 minutes ago, xylophone said:

If I recall correctly there was a photograph of one of the Thai lowlife's in the bar (or associated with the bar) who was wearing a blonde wig. Perhaps he was wearing that at the time of the murder, just to mock the poor innocent young woman, because she spurned his advances or those of his friend.

 

 

Wasn't that one of the cops who is a DJ on the side wears a blonde wig as a "gimmick"

[thetruth revealer]

2 hours ago, sanemax said:

Maybe he was part of the initial attack, which would make him an accessory to murder .

   Maybe he didnt try to stop the attack at all ?

He also wouldnt want to go back to Ko Samui and testify .

And no one there would want him to either

...this circumstances are completely ignored from authorities, which seems at least a little bit strange in the context of such a murdering...this alone makes the whole case looking far from been investigated properly and shows how desinteressed the police and prosecutor are to find out the truth and follow up to arrest the killers.

...in any other ( civilized ) country he would be considered a crown witness or similar importance would be given as fact, especially as he has been  treathened from Mon and his Police friend and its all on CCTV at 7-11 !!!

 

 

 

Questions after questions .....

 

[greenchair]

3 hours ago, localczar said:

well done thai police: pretty much the norm, botching up from start to finish and blaming someone else, certainly fooled the platinum member, whose agenda is??

To stop unscrupulous peoples attempting to set up another fund page to garner more funds using those mens names,that will most likely see nary a penny of it. 

Fool me once. ...

[greenchair]

3 hours ago, Eligius said:

As far as I know, the police did not bother to check for fingerprints at any point in this case - or so we are told. If true, this alone proves that the police were not serious in wanting to do everything possible to catch the real murderers.

The phone was in the bush for more than 2 weeks during the rainy season. So I guess the police used their training to determine fingerprints testing would be something dreamed up on thaivisa. 

Not to mention, if Wei Phyo said he "found" the phone and his friend was a witness and confirmed the phone is from Wei Phyo. 

Why would they even need fingerprints sherlock? ?

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[007cableguy]

The phone was in the bush for more than 2 weeks during the rainy season. So I guess the police used their training to determine fingerprints testing would be something dreamed up on thaivisa. 
Not to mention, if Wei Phyo said he "found" the phone and his friend was a witness and confirmed the phone is from Wei Phyo. 
Why would they even need fingerprints sherlock? ?

The Micky mouse police weren't interested in looking for fingerprints as it would lead to the real murderers !!
Don't you think the murder weapon (Hoe) would of had some of the B2's prints on it ?....Don't say it was wiped after because it had Davids and other unknown prints on it !......
.Don't you think that's a bit odd as you and your buddies are convinced the B2 wielded the hoe?


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[Khun Han]

10 minutes ago, greenchair said:

The phone was in the bush for more than 2 weeks during the rainy season. So I guess the police used their training to determine fingerprints testing would be something dreamed up on thaivisa. 

Not to mention, if Wei Phyo said he "found" the phone and his friend was a witness and confirmed the phone is from Wei Phyo. 

Why would they even need fingerprints sherlock? ?

 

The phone was in the bush

 

Inside a plastic bag.

 

Why would they even need fingerprints sherlock? ?

 

To find out if there were any other fingerprints on it. That's what a proper police force does. They leave no stone unturned.

 

Next nonsense to be debunked please grrenchair. When's your boss along by the way? He's usually here by now.

[localczar]

39 minutes ago, greenchair said:

To stop unscrupulous peoples attempting to set up another fund page to garner more funds using those mens names,that will most likely see nary a penny of it. 

Fool me once. ...

oh, brilliant; that's why they are guilty, due to some fundraiser!

Outstanding conclusion. You must have been sucked in by these "unscrupulous peoples"?

However, still NO reason to convict on dodgy evidence, or even NO evidence in a capital case. You're bias has no place, relevance or weight in this and you should see the reality of it.

[Khun Han]

2 minutes ago, localczar said:

oh, brilliant; that's why they are guilty, due to some fundraiser!

Outstanding conclusion. You must have been sucked in by these "unscrupulous peoples"?

However, still NO reason to convict on dodgy evidence, or even NO evidence in a capital case. You're bias has no place, relevance or weight in this and you should see the reality of it.

 

It's s.o.p. for the Koh Tao mafia apologists to attack the defence team and their supporters. Quite despicable really.

[xylophone]

1 minute ago, 007cableguy said:

 

The Micky mouse police weren't interested in looking for fingerprints as it would lead to the real murderers !!
Don't you think the murder weapon (Hoe) would of had some of the B2's prints on it ?....Don't say it was wiped after because it had Davids and other unknown prints on it !......
.Don't you think that's a bit odd as you and your buddies are convinced the B2 wielded the hoe?


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With respect 007cableguy, it is pointless arguing with people like this because even though the case would have been thrown out long ago in a normal/civilised country, here, corruption and power rule and no amount of arguing with people like this will make any difference.

 

It should be pretty obvious to any intelligent person that this was a setup from start to finish, but there will be others who have their own agendas and will try to confuse the issue and nitpick, when even the smallest detail up to the umbrella view would point to a total miscarriage of justice.

 

The long post a while back outlining the key points which were not satisfied was well written and covered just about everything. However in the post you are referring to, it has been said that the hoe was used to kill David, however no one has explained how he came to get 7 or 8 puncture/stab wounds in his head – – another thing the police conveniently overlooked.

 

If the RTP supporters are asked to provide any CONCRETE evidence whatsoever that these two are guilty, then they can't because nothing they provide would stand scrutiny in any other court of law in any other civilised country, and the B2 would have to be set free, yet they still argue their points..... quite why, it's hard to fathom because even the village idiot can see that there has been a miscarriage of justice.

 

 

 

 

 

[Khun Han]

5 minutes ago, xylophone said:

With respect 007cableguy, it is pointless arguing with people like this because even though the case would have been thrown out long ago in a normal/civilised country, here, corruption and power rule and no amount of arguing with people like this will make any difference.

 

It should be pretty obvious to any intelligent person that this was a setup from start to finish, but there will be others who have their own agendas and will try to confuse the issue and nitpick, when even the smallest detail up to the umbrella view would point to a total miscarriage of justice.

 

The long post a while back outlining the key points which were not satisfied was well written and covered just about everything. However in the post you are referring to, it has been said that the hoe was used to kill David, however no one has explained how he came to get 7 or 8 puncture/stab wounds in his head – – another thing the police conveniently overlooked.

 

If the RTP supporters are asked to provide any CONCRETE evidence whatsoever that these two are guilty, then they can't because nothing they provide would stand scrutiny in any other court of law in any other civilised country, and the B2 would have to be set free, yet they still argue their points..... quite why, it's hard to fathom because even the village idiot can see that there has been a miscarriage of justice.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I agree. But it's all about perception management for them. If they keep hitting all the assorted internet discussions hard enough and long enough, the goal is to re-write the history of this case. And that's why so many of us keep on correcting their misinformation with the truth, so that they can't do that.

[Eligius]

15 minutes ago, xylophone said:

... even the village idiot can see that there has been a miscarriage of justice.

 

 

 

 

 

Brilliantly said, Xylophone! Very, very funny and so true.

 

The police have perverted the course of true justice time after time after time after time after time in their 'investigation' of this case. It stands as perhaps the all-time object lesson (to be used in criminology and law schools) in how NOT to conduct a murder investigation. Quite frankly, a more scandalously unprofessional display of (deliberate) police and judicial incompetence and idiocy would be almost impossible to imagine.

 

So yes: even a village idiot could see that every step of the investigation in this case has been a disaster of injustice and, quite honestly, deliberate evil. 

[greenchair]

1 hour ago, 007cableguy said:

 

The Micky mouse police weren't interested in looking for fingerprints as it would lead to the real murderers !!
Don't you think the murder weapon (Hoe) would of had some of the B2's prints on it ?....Don't say it was wiped after because it had Davids and other unknown prints on it !......
.Don't you think that's a bit odd as you and your buddies are convinced the B2 wielded the hoe?


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Oooohhhh, what's that? ?don't have a smart reply for Wei Phyo told the police he had the phone, so change the subject. 

I never said anyone wielded a hoe. 

He was there. he's lying about that. He's not fessing up. 

They gambled on a chat site getting them off. 

In the real world , reality won the day. 

[AGareth2]

4 minutes ago, greenchair said:

Oooohhhh, what's that? ?don't have a smart reply for Wei Phyo told the police he had the phone, so change the subject. 

I never said anyone wielded a hoe. 

He was there. he's lying about that. He's not fessing up. 

They gambled on a chat site getting them off. 

In the real world , reality won the day. 

no in lala land obfuscation sent them down

[007cableguy]

Oooohhhh, what's that? ?don't have a smart reply for Wei Phyo told the police he had the phone, so change the subject. 

I never said anyone wielded a hoe. 

He was there. he's lying about that. He's not fessing up. 

They gambled on a chat site getting them off. 

In the real world , reality won the day. 

Wow is that the best you could do?.........What's your theory on who wielded the hoe?.......As it was your highly professional boys in brown main murder weapon !...So they say!

As for the phone I've never commented on the phone in any of my posts so your wrong there!

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[greenchair]

1 hour ago, Khun Han said:

 

The phone was in the bush

 

Inside a plastic bag.

 

Why would they even need fingerprints sherlock? ?

 

To find out if there were any other fingerprints on it. That's what a proper police force does. They leave no stone unturned.

 

Next nonsense to be debunked please grrenchair. When's your boss along by the way? He's usually here by now.

Looking on the Internet, prints must be obtained from a clean, dry service. The plastic sitting in humid weather would have been full of condensation. Getting prints would be impossible. Back to you detective. 

 

Yes, we all miss aleg. 

Especially since he was right all along and we were all wrong. 

Guilty is the verdict. 

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[Hutch68]

1 hour ago, 007cableguy said:

 

The Micky mouse police weren't interested in looking for fingerprints as it would lead to the real murderers !!
Don't you think the murder weapon (Hoe) would of had some of the B2's prints on it ?....Don't say it was wiped after because it had Davids and other unknown prints on it !......
.Don't you think that's a bit odd as you and your buddies are convinced the B2 wielded the hoe?


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Do you know that's a good point, how did I miss that? How did we all miss it? The murder weapon had none of the B2's prints or dna but had David's!

So it's clear now to us all with half a brain that the B2 never touched the murder weapon so they must be guilty....

[Dale59]

As a US lawyer I find this process an affront to justice. Looks like a kangaroo court!


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[berybert]

37 minutes ago, greenchair said:

Looking on the Internet, prints must be obtained from a clean, dry service. The plastic sitting in humid weather would have been full of condensation. Getting prints would be impossible. Back to you detective. 

 

Yes, we all miss aleg. 

Especially since he was right all along and we were all wrong. 

Guilty is the verdict. 

And yet they got David's print plus A.N. other.

How did that happen ?

[greenchair]

1 minute ago, berybert said:

And yet they got David's print plus A.N. other.

How did that happen ?

That was on the hoe. 

And wood is not good either. 

It's possible David's print was found because he touched it clearly with one or two fingers whilst defending himself. But the killer gripped it and used a swinging motion, this would cause the print to smudge. So impossible to print. 

[berybert]

1 minute ago, greenchair said:

That was on the hoe. 

And wood is not good either. 

It's possible David's print was found because he touched it clearly with one or two fingers whilst defending himself. But the killer gripped it and used a swinging motion, this would cause the print to smudge. So impossible to print. 

Your expertise knows no bounds. Or are you just making stuff up ?

[Khun Han]

1 hour ago, greenchair said:

Oooohhhh, what's that? ?don't have a smart reply for Wei Phyo told the police he had the phone, so change the subject. 

I never said anyone wielded a hoe. 

He was there. he's lying about that. He's not fessing up. 

They gambled on a chat site getting them off. 

In the real world , reality won the day. 

 

Wei Phyo said he had a phone.

 

In the real world corruption won the day.

[greenchair]

8 minutes ago, berybert said:

Your expertise knows no bounds. Or are you just making stuff up ?

Look yourself. Google is your friend, it's explains all of the questions on tv about fingerprinting. 

[berybert]

Just now, greenchair said:

Look yourself. Google is your friend, it's explains all of the questions on tv about fingerprinting. 

Does it also tell you how you can make shark sized tooth marks with a hoe whilst hitting a male's face, yet totally smash a female's face beyond recognition ?

[007cableguy]

Look yourself. Google is your friend, it's explains all of the questions on tv about fingerprinting. 

So what your saying is the DNA was so overwhelming logic says it must have been the hoe they used !.....I've got it now ....Guilty as sin in a fantasy world!


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[Khun Han]

6 minutes ago, greenchair said:

16 minutes ago, berybert said:

Your expertise knows no bounds. Or are you just making stuff up ?

Look yourself. Google is your friend, it's explains all of the questions on tv about fingerprinting. 

 

And you will discover that fingerprints are resilient, and can last over forty years. You will also discover that fingerprints can still be recovered and analysed after the water element has evaporated.

[Khun Han]

19 minutes ago, berybert said:

22 minutes ago, greenchair said:

That was on the hoe. 

And wood is not good either. 

It's possible David's print was found because he touched it clearly with one or two fingers whilst defending himself. But the killer gripped it and used a swinging motion, this would cause the print to smudge. So impossible to print. 

Your expertise knows no bounds. Or are you just making stuff up ?

 

Making stuff up.

[greenchair]

8 minutes ago, Khun Han said:

 

Wei Phyo said he had a phone.

 

In the real world corruption won the day.

I understand the nitpicking about the police and the skepticism of the dna and stuff. 

But the phone, it's origins were accepted by the b2. , the defence team. In fact the phone, where it came from, how wp came to have it, where it was stashed, is the one thing the courts, prosecutors, defence, b2, police all agree on. 

Why can't you accept that.