A New Zealander’s Sweat-Soaked Tale of Being Busted for Drugs in Bangkok

[Thaidream]

The legalization of drugs can be controlled just as alcohol is controlled. Drug outlets would be licensed and the ownership undergo scrutiny just as places that sell alcohol do right now

There are literally billions spent Worldwide to suppress the drug trade and it's not working. Countries have tried killing the users and sellers but yet it continues because there is a market for it. Control and education is the answer.  

Control it and we don't need to lock up the users and the pushers and drug cartels will be out of business.  Prison capacity will be freed up for real criminals and we won't need added prisons guards because the prison population will probably be halved.

 

We , as a society, have to be honest about the reasons for drug and alcohol abuse and that is because large sectors of our populations are living in poverty and without any hope. They turn to drugs and alcohol to relieve the stress they feel from everyday life.

 

Once governments realize that they have actually failed to provide proper education and opportunities to their people- and do something positive to change the lives of their electorate many of these issues will go away. There is a real lack of leadership everywhere in the World and politicians hide behind these issues rather than tell the truth.

[steven100]

Drugs are illegal.  Drugs are wrong.  Drugs are rampant in Australia and crime,  herion, opium, crystal and myth ice are all drugs that nobody wants their kids to ever take.

But some drug taker here want to defend that and make out it's ok to take drugs.

 

What crap.

[steven100]

drugs are illegal and drug pushers will be locked up. end.

[true word]

I wonder how much money he ended up paying?

[jenifer d]

2 hours ago, steven100 said:

lets not use the ..  drink is worse than drugs road ,  it just don't stack up.

so you think it's ok to take drugs ?  so you think its ok to take ice ?   so you think that if a family has young teenages going out that all is ok for them to party with friends and hit the drugs and get hi as a kite  ???

 

crazy thinking       imo.

MOST damage from drugs- the crime, broken families, etc-  is due to the fact that they are illegal- in Netherlands & Portugal, they have legalized/decriminalized most things, and

the social problems one sees elsewhere are nowhere in evidence

---in terms of actual health hazards, when properly regulated, (therefore more purity and less criminal influences)  there are FAR less negative health consequences from any drugs (barring nicotine, the worst drug of all) than alcohol...

---but please do feel free to keep on your high horse that alcohol- which ruins more innocent lives than ANYTHING else, and yet is LEGAL- just keep up with hypocritical malarkey that alcohol is better, because you drink, and there can't possibly be anything wrong w/you now, can there??? 

[buick]

1 hour ago, true word said:

I wonder how much money he ended up paying?

 i believe it was 60,000thb.  the article mentioned 10,000 but that 'offer' was doubled and it was per person.  one out of the three guys was clean so maybe it was 30,000 per guilty party.  sometimes just being in the same room/taxi can be a problem, even if you are clean.  guilt by association.

 

33 minutes ago, jenifer d said:

it must be remembered  that frequently it is the BiB's who are  involved in the actual business, 

at the very least in the set-up and subsequent bribe

 

i was wondering about this 'set up' thing.  in the USA they have police check points, typically to catch drunk drivers.  but these three guys were traveling in a taxi and would not be stopped in the USA (not that the rules of the USA should be used around the world, just using it as an example).  one time i watched a checkpoint at the intersection of asoke and sukhumvit.  i was walking home about midnight and was on the pedestrian overpass going from asoke BTS toward the exchange tower.  i stood there for about 30 minutes and the only cars that were stopped were taxis with farang inside (and many were with thai girls).  if you are high on drugs in the USA in a taxi, you are pretty safe from the police.  but not here thailand, they are looking for farang in taxi.  i should say i didn't see anyone taken aside.  saw about 30 taxis stopped, and the farangs were all searched (not the thai ladies with them).

 

 

 

 

[Rc2702]

1 hour ago, buick said:

 i believe it was 60,000thb.  the article mentioned 10,000 but that 'offer' was doubled and it was per person.  one out of the three guys was clean so maybe it was 30,000 per guilty party.  sometimes just being in the same room/taxi can be a problem, even if you are clean.  guilt by association.

 

 

i was wondering about this 'set up' thing.  in the USA they have police check points, typically to catch drunk drivers.  but these three guys were traveling in a taxi and would not be stopped in the USA (not that the rules of the USA should be used around the world, just using it as an example).  one time i watched a checkpoint at the intersection of asoke and sukhumvit.  i was walking home about midnight and was on the pedestrian overpass going from asoke BTS toward the exchange tower.  i stood there for about 30 minutes and the only cars that were stopped were taxis with farang inside (and many were with thai girls).  if you are high on drugs in the USA in a taxi, you are pretty safe from the police.  but not here thailand, they are looking for farang in taxi.  i should say i didn't see anyone taken aside.  saw about 30 taxis stopped, and the farangs were all searched (not the thai ladies with them).

 

 

 

 

Should have filmed it. That's the warning advert right there.

[off road pat]

21 hours ago, Briggsy said:

I think it rings true. Once the bribe has been agreed, the police taking the suspect to the ATM is not uncommon. (He went there in a car with the police).

 

Many, many years ago, I met a backpacker who had rented a bike from Chiang Mai and spent the afternoon smoking opium in a hill tribe village. As he left the "friendly" head man tucked a final rolled cigarette of opium in this guy's top pocket. 5 miles down the road, gets stopped by the cops who go straight to his top pocket. The backpacker was then taken around a number of exchange booths where he exchanged £200 of travellers' cheques in each one. The presence of the cop standing behind him strangely negated the need to show his passport. £1200 lighter he was allowed to go.

I know for a fact that this story is true, and I know where this guy went to smoke Opium.! lot's of people go there. I am sure they have a deal with the cops, as this place is well known for years... Been there in a couple of off road trips.

First time I was with a German fiend, he went to smoke, and I watched but didn't touch it. someone had to stay clean to drive the 4x4 back. And I never touch anything illegal by close or by far, in Thailand. Second time I was with a Thai friend, on the way back he took out a cigarette drenched in opium out of he's top pocket and smoked all the way, and he was driving !?!?. there is a check point on the road but the cops were watching TV and we got thru....I guess they just catch farangs ?!...I just want to add, when I smelled the opium ? this was the sweetest smell I ever smelled in my life, no wonder they get hooked on it.

Best regards.

[off road pat]

2 hours ago, true word said:

I wonder how much money he ended up paying?

I met a guy that had to go with the cops to a ATM to get a lot of money out until the cops were happy !?!? and I met a guy that was caught on Samui with one joint ? he had nothing ells in he's shorts than a 500 Thb bill and the cop took it and that was it !?!?!?

Best regards

[jenifer d]

1 hour ago, buick said:

 i believe it was 60,000thb.  the article mentioned 10,000 but that 'offer' was doubled and it was per person.  one out of the three guys was clean so maybe it was 30,000 per guilty party.  sometimes just being in the same room/taxi can be a problem, even if you are clean.  guilt by association.

 

 

i was wondering about this 'set up' thing.  in the USA they have police check points, typically to catch drunk drivers.  but these three guys were traveling in a taxi and would not be stopped in the USA (not that the rules of the USA should be used around the world, just using it as an example).  one time i watched a checkpoint at the intersection of asoke and sukhumvit.  i was walking home about midnight and was on the pedestrian overpass going from asoke BTS toward the exchange tower.  i stood there for about 30 minutes and the only cars that were stopped were taxis with farang inside (and many were with thai girls).  if you are high on drugs in the USA in a taxi, you are pretty safe from the police.  but not here thailand, they are looking for farang in taxi.  i should say i didn't see anyone taken aside.  saw about 30 taxis stopped, and the farangs were all searched (not the thai ladies with them).

 

 

 

 

yes, that is one aspect of it, happens often here, particularly in high-density tourist/shopping areas w/many farangs - and many times even in so-called "random" checks,, it is either the BiB's who have provided the stuff to the "dealer", or the dealer tips them off in exchange for a cut of the subsequent bribe

[freebyrd]

5 hours ago, TopOfTheMorning said:

Yes, they could occupy their minds by being a busy body and trying to dictate how others should live their lives.

Why are the two posters above me so worried about something that does not affect their lives?

Worried? where did that come from? I'm just expressing an opinion.

[bazza73]

5 hours ago, steven100 said:

Anyway ....    so you think drugs and ice are ok.

 

That is wrong as drugs are not ok.     But you do as you want . 

 

IMHO society needs to change its attitude to drugs. Alcohol is a legal drug, marijuana also in some countries.

The real problem is the enormous profits available to criminals in all countries by trafficking in drugs. The US has spent billions on drug enforcement to no avail. Senior police in Australia say they cannot arrest their way out of the drug problem.

If we legalise all drugs, the profits for criminals, and the crimes committed by addicts to support their habit vanish. Countries such as Portugal and Sweden have pilot programs which support that conclusion.

The only caveat I would enter on legalisation is that if you commit a crime under the influence of drugs e.g. Hit and run accident, the law treats you as if you are stone cold sober. After all, it was your decision to take drugs.

[Dumbastheycome]

Abuse of recreational  chemicals is  dangerous to individuals  and  families  and  society. regardless if illegal or legal (alcohol).

The focus  is on  "abuse"  because it does not stop  at  the individual.

The problem  with  meth  and  similar is  that there is no " moderate"  effect.

As  can be witnessed  by the  mindless  activities  of   many teenagers.

[joecoolfrog]

On Thursday, March 23, 2017 at 8:52 AM, Briggsy said:

That actually sounds like a true story rather than the wannabe authors that pop up on occasion on TV.

What puzzles me is the bribe amount.

10K doubled per person , so 10 x 2 ×;2 or 3 =:40-60,000 baht. The Kiwi says he got this from an ATM....how ?

[joecoolfrog]

9 hours ago, freebyrd said:

I have zero tolerance and sympathy for anyone who goes anywhere near any drugs, the are no excuses - ever.

Except Nicotine or Alcohol perhaps ?

[joecoolfrog]

9 hours ago, steven100 said:

it does affect everyone's life ....  cost to taxpayers, break and entering to feed their stupid habit of getting off their face ....  selling drugs to others such as the young, taking drugs and then driving and causing road accidents,  ice is rampant in australia which is disgusting. so pls don't tell me it doesn't affect anyone.

Drugs are stupid and anyone who takes drugs so they want to get off their face is stupid also.  Whats the reason for putting this into your body ?   why ?     do druggos want to see stars or be dizzy   ??   why   ?

Mate you have every right to your opinion and it is perfectly valid providing you also refrain from , and rail against, alcohol and cigarettes. If not then....

Edited March 24, 2017 by joecoolfrog

[joecoolfrog]

8 hours ago, DDbkh said:

 

Have you taken into account the people who are destroyed by the slave trade, gun runners and drug smugglers - all of which are part of the drug trade? The cocaine and opium trades blight the economies of many countries.
Alcoholic drinks are regulated, in the main, and the money is traded in the mainstream economy. Taxes are paid and no criminals are involved in adulterating the product, which may use other drugs or poisons.
There is no logical comparison between illegal drugs and legally produced and marketed alcoholic drinks.

 

Or simply put the other drugs on the same legal footing as nicotine or alcohol , your problems are solved.

[joecoolfrog]

8 hours ago, steven100 said:

go and get shitfaced on your drugs ...  you'll be fine.

He will indeed probably be fine , as will most people having a few beers tonight , that the point that you dont seem to be able to understand.

[smokie36]

Bangkok is a dumb place to indulge in all night cocaine parties.

 

The guy in the article is very fortunate indeed.

[pbeieio]

I can smell the B.S. all the way from N.Z.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[lanng khao]

I have to get my reduction glasses.  Anyway,   have a good weekend but stay off the ice.

As long as it's in a large jack Daniels..

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[freebyrd]

9 hours ago, joecoolfrog said:

Except Nicotine or Alcohol perhaps ?

As I replied to a critic earlier, right or wrong, they are both legal.

 

As an aside, I once indulged in both, I no longer do.

[TopOfTheMorning]

25 minutes ago, freebyrd said:

As I replied to a critic earlier, right or wrong, they are both legal.

 

As an aside, I once indulged in both, I no longer do.

And there you have it, right or wrong.

The majority of posters on this thread are level headed enough to understand the injustice of making nicoteen and alcohol legal while outlawing harmless weed.

The remaining posters are still living in 1872 and probabley get offended by seeing naked piano legs.

Edited March 25, 2017 by TopOfTheMorning

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[off road pat]

On 3/24/2017 at 8:05 AM, steven100 said:

Drugs are illegal.  Drugs are wrong.  Drugs are rampant in Australia and crime,  herion, opium, crystal and myth ice are all drugs that nobody wants their kids to ever take.

But some drug taker here want to defend that and make out it's ok to take drugs.

 

What crap.

illegal one day may be legal the next day !!! ...like,... Homosexuality was illegal in many country's and is now widely accepted in the western world...in Germany before the second world war it was illegal for Jews to have a business ???...etc...

In many country's it was illegal for workers to form a union ?...

Just saying !!!..some people want to go forward and others just want to stay put, but actually they go backward !!!

Best regards

Edited March 25, 2017 by off road pat

[JimCrane]

I like how in the story knowing someone who speaks thai just makes everything ok

 

kind of like a universal problem solver. An omnipotent jest ire, knowing the all powerful word of thai. Almost mythological. It seems to overcome everything (except the Lao, they never did quite change as completely as they should have, jao!)

[Linzz]

On 3/24/2017 at 8:05 PM, steven100 said:

Drugs are illegal.  Drugs are wrong.  Drugs are rampant in Australia and crime,  herion, opium, crystal and myth ice are all drugs that nobody wants their kids to ever take.

But some drug taker here want to defend that and make out it's ok to take drugs.

 

What crap.

I agree with your sentiment about drugs but alcohol is a drug too. From another thread Steven100, you stated below............. Think you scored an own goal!

 

On 3/26/2017 at 8:06 PM, steven100 said:

They don't hate me when I buy my piss at 7-11 each morning ....

Edited March 27, 2017 by Linzz

[JimmyJ]

On 3/23/2017 at 10:15 PM, freebyrd said:

I have zero tolerance and sympathy for anyone who goes anywhere near any drugs, the are no excuses - ever.

No doubt you feel the same about all the people using alcohol.

[Ulysses G.]

On March 23, 2017 at 5:08 AM, Briggsy said:

I think it rings true. Once the bribe has been agreed, the police taking the suspect to the ATM is not uncommon. (He went there in a car with the police).

 

Many, many years ago, I met a backpacker who had rented a bike from Chiang Mai and spent the afternoon smoking opium in a hill tribe village. As he left the "friendly" head man tucked a final rolled cigarette of opium in this guy's top pocket. 5 miles down the road, gets stopped by the cops who go straight to his top pocket. The backpacker was then taken around a number of exchange booths where he exchanged £200 of travellers' cheques in each one. The presence of the cop standing behind him strangely negated the need to show his passport. £1200 lighter he was allowed to go.

This may be true, but a "cigarette of opium" won't get one high. You need a special pipe and the opium is never burned, it is (more like) steamed. I am guessing that vaping might work. The flame can not touch the opium or it will destroy it. It can be eaten, but the high is not as pleasant as smoking it. 

[freebyrd]

10 hours ago, JimmyJ said:

No doubt you feel the same about all the people using alcohol.

You're rather late in the day as this as been said at least 5 times already, nevertheless, I'll say again, right or wrong alcohol is legal. For what it's worth I don't drink or smoke so you can pick the bones out of that as well if you like.