New unedited footage shows British pensioner taking machete swipe at Thai man

[ChouDoufu]

1:29-1:36 cars moving to center to avoid parked car

 

1:38  moving to center again to avoid what looks to

be a yellow car with white roof (taxi?) pulling out

from a driveway.

 

video is cut here...picks up at a different location

at 1:40.  was something edited out?

 

and then just before the bump at 1:42, cars were moving

to the center to avoid a parked motorcycle.

 

 

Edited October 15, 2017 by ChouDoufu

[BEVUP]

3 minutes ago, crazygreg44 said:

 . . .then why at this moment, the Brit swerved to the right?  Across the painted middle of the street.  Shouldn't he had better slowed down and moved to the left?

 

It is called "defensive driving" and it is not high science

You are talking about the 27 sec part aren't you

[crazygreg44]

4 minutes ago, ChouDoufu said:

1:29-1:36 cars moving to center to avoid parked car

 

1:38  moving to center again to avoid what looks to

be a yellow car with white roof (taxi?) pulling out

from a driveway.

 

video is cut here...picks up at a different location

at 1:40.  was something edited out?

 

and then just before the bump, cars were moving

to the center to avoid a parked motorcycle.

 

 

yes, to me it also looks as if something was edited out!

 

Yet it appears that the Brits defiantly swerves to the right (not passing parked cars or motorbikes) in order to stop the Thai, thus unfortunatley hitting the Thai's car in the side

 

Can't see cars moving to the right to avoid a parked motorcycle, have to watch again

Edited October 15, 2017 by crazygreg44

[crazygreg44]

Sorry, the bumping part is around 1:40  (not before)  it is hard to follow.  And there appears a part before has been cut or edited.  

 

When the bumping occurs, the Brit is 2 feet over across the middle of the street. Deliberately?

Edited October 15, 2017 by crazygreg44

[ChouDoufu]

interesting!  something cut.

at about 1:36 you see the brit car pulling out from

behind to pass.

then after the deleted section, the brit car is already

ahead.  does appear to be a moto on the side of

the road at the point where they bump.

 

see some screen grabs below

 

 

 

Edited October 15, 2017 by ChouDoufu

[crazygreg44]

unquestionably, this scenes are what started the road rage. Yet it seems the Thai thought he was in the right, because later he deliberately tried to stop the Brit. Seems he wanted to argue about the damage done to the Brio.  

 

It is like when to stubborn children meet each other: None of them is willing to give in.

 

What happened next to when the Brit starts machete swinging  and trying to drive over the Thai , is way to aggressive on the part of the Brit.  We can see the Thai gets out of his car twice, by no means is he threatening the Brit, despite the old pensioner claimed this wrongly in front of police.

Edited October 15, 2017 by crazygreg44

[crazygreg44]

10 minutes ago, ChouDoufu said:

interesting!  something cut.

at about 1:36 you see the brit car pulling out from

behind to pass.

then after the deleted section, the brit car is already

ahead.  does appear to be a moto on the side of

the road at the point where they bump.

 

see some screen grabs below

 . . .

clearly something is missing between  -2:01 and -2:02   Somebody is trying to hide any clearer view onto who bumped into whom

Edited October 15, 2017 by crazygreg44

[BEVUP]

It happened at the right hand turn where the Thai was trying to cut in from the outside 

[ChouDoufu]

cleverly edited out is what happened just

after the brit began to pull out and pass.

 

see in the second screen grab above,

there's a 4-story building about 1/2 km

ahead.

 

the video cuts in again about 100m

before the building.

 

 

[crazygreg44]

The video has obviously been edited.

 

The part missing is what happens when the Brio start to overtake and what happens in the middle of the overtaking.

 

What we see in the video is the overtaking in it's last third, then another cut and the Brio is already in front of the Brit.

 

Somebody is trying to hide the scenes that show the Thai recklessly trying to overtake, despite oncoming traffic. 

 

The scene when the Brit bulks and swerves across the street's middle and bumps into the Thai, has been left to show that the Brit, too, drove defiantly

 

You are right, the buildings indicate some 50 meters have been passed since . . . !!  And these parts are all missing . . . . . . 

Edited October 15, 2017 by crazygreg44

[ChouDoufu]

2 minutes ago, crazygreg44 said:

...The scene when the Brit bulks and swerves across the street's middle and bumps into the Thai, has been left to show that the Brit, too, drove defiantly

see the screen grabs with red circles.  the bump occurred  at the

base of the blue/white striped sign.  there is a moto parked on

the side next to the sign.

[AGareth2]

lucky that the cop was there at the school or he would have got a worse beating

[joepattaya1961]

Things must be real quiet in Pattaya.....5 threads about one and the same issue. 

[DurianBreath]

2 minutes ago, joepattaya1961 said:

Things must be real quiet in Pattaya.....5 threads about one and the same issue. 

It's not just Pattaya that's real quiet...

[holy cow cm]

No matter who did what and when, in the end it still remains the Brit pulled a weapon and will go down for it. Not self defense. And he also ran the Thai guy over. Not self defense. Even though the Thai guy is an idiot, and looks like he didn't like the Brit tail gaiting and passing, the Brit is going to be found guilty and black listed. Thai guy will not get much or if at all anything, but will push this to the end against the Brit.

[AGareth2]

5 minutes ago, holy cow cm said:

, the Brit is going to be found guilty and black listed. Thai guy will not get much or if at all anything, but will push this to the end against the Brit.

money matters a lot to Thais

 

[Scouse123]

It does as you rightly say. But if the Brit continues or is as arrogant and bad tempered as has been reported ( albeit second hand ) he will probably be foolish enough to take this on in the courts- which will be a very bad idea!

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[maxpower]

2 hours ago, BEVUP said:

I cant' really see the editing, but I see it this way

Actually there is a bit of a glitch & then you see the Thai driver nudging the Brit

1st - The Thai guy tries to cut him out on the out side when turning into Soi

2nd - The Thai driver goes to the trouble of overtaking pickup (carrier ) putting on coming traffic at risk

3rd - Then you see the Thai driver pull over & then cut back in between the pickup (which he just over took ) & the Brit

4 th - The Thai was giving the finger

5th - The Thai was in the middle of making another death defying manouver & had to get out of the way of on coming traffic & there was no where to go & no doubt expected the Brit (or driver ) to stop or move which would of caused him to have an accident

The rest we know

Impatient Thai in wrong lane to turn right reaches front and expects priority

 

 

 

[ChouDoufu]

he could probably get a pass on the machete.

he made menacing gestures while the thai guy

was in his car, but once he got out, the brit backed

off and (bravely) kept the car between them.

 

but running the guy down.......hard to 'splain.

[Rhys]

 

 

..hardest behavior to control....road rage... he lives one more day to pick up his child...

 

[transam]

The ol' fella is definitely past his sell by date..Think all us farangs expect anything on the roads and should just ignore it, or keep calm, after all, we are guests here...

[colinneil]

2 hours ago, crazygreg44 said:

 . .this is only half of what actually happened, and you missed the crucial start of the road rage.  

You all should check out the earlier scene when the bumping happens! If you take your time in watching it, you must admit that the Brit was bumping into the Thai, and not vice versa. The Brit even intentionally swerved to the right and hit the Thai's car!  He just stubbornly tried to block the Thai from overtaking him. You can clearly see that the Brit is driving over across the median painted on the street, before bumping into the Thai.  If you, like the Brit, claim to have lived in Thailand for 15 years, you should be used to the occasional Thai blandly overtaking you, keep in mind, don't argue and most of all, don't bump your car into his and later attack him with a machete and then try to drive over him.  The fact that the Thai slowed down and tried to stop the Brit in his tracks, was due to him wanting to argue about the damage the Brit did to his car, and it doesn’t make the Thai guilty.  Please stick to the facts and look again how the Brit defiantly swerved to the right across the median to deliberately push away the already overtaking Thai in his Honda Brio, because this is what started it all.  The road rule is – don’t allow yourself to be tempted into a hot headed action, just let the s…e overtake you, and keep your temper.

I did see all the video, i clearly stated the Thai was blocking the farang, prior to the blocking it appeared they were both in the wrong, i did not say that ok. Never the less nothing can excuse the stupid old bugger for his crazy actions.

[BEVUP]

1 hour ago, maxpower said:

Impatient Thai in wrong lane to turn right reaches front and expects priority

 

 

 

Thanks Max for adding picture & if you go about 5 sec forward I would say there might of been a little nudge whilst entering the Soi

[holy cow cm]

1 hour ago, AGareth2 said:

money matters a lot to Thais

 

Yeah, and it will have to be a lot for the Thai guy to settle, as in not just a few hundred thousand baht and a car repair job. He supposedly is owner or part owner of a gold shop. This case is very high profile now and the prosecutor has the right to pick it up even if the Thai guy drops it.. Maybe above the money point to settle it even in this society now as everything is in the open eye..

[stanleycoin]

1 hour ago, transam said:

The ol' fella is definitely past his sell by date..Think all us farangs expect anything on the roads and should just ignore it, or keep calm, after all, we are guests here...

We are nothing of the sort. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You should seek medical help,  you maybe suffering from Stockholm syndrome.

[mommysboy]

If the tape has been edited, I can tell you one thing for sure: it wont' be for the farang's benefit!

[tropo]

9 hours ago, darksidedog said:

I think I can sum that up by saying that is a pair of total A Holes in action. Neither of them should be allowed on the road and the farang definitely deserves some jail time for that incredibly stupid performance.

The most stupid action here was the Thai guy getting out of his car to confront a guy waving a machete around, who already used it to damage his car... stupid and brave.

[TomJoad]

Quick temper could be an early sign of dementia (an even crueler kind of "prison").

[jacko45k]

Looks like the Thai driver started things off with his impatience and aggressive driving without regards for other road users. The UK old guy's reaction was not measured and obviously producing a weapon was wrong.

[dinsdale]

20 hours ago, whatsupdoc said:

No excuse, attempted murder.

Really? Farang attempted murder. Thai Bt500 fine.