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Nope.

6 minutes ago, rivaldo77 said:

I have been using Windows 10 for about 1.5 years. But the problem is my computer is infecting virus a lot rather than Windows 7. Anyone facing this issue?

Nope.  Viruses come from sites you visit, links you click on, devices you attach, etc., whether you use Win 7 or Win 10.  I have not read anything suggesting Win 10 is less secure than Win 7.

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40 minutes ago, rivaldo77 said:

I have been using Windows 10 for about 1.5 years. But the problem is my computer is infecting virus a lot rather than Windows 7. Anyone facing this issue?

W 10 isn't easier to attack than W 7 was/is. As Pib already mentioned you're getting all the crap from websites, but also from often infected thumb drives, or external ones. Surfing the web without a good AV system is basically similar to driving without a helmet. 

 

  Make sure that your W defender is always updated, it seems to be much better than in the W 7 version. But a good additional Anti virus system is a must. 

 

Many free software programs might be okay, but a lot of them are only free because you also have to download other software, without even knowing it !! 

 

  Be careful when you download free software and get some information about the program before you install it.

 

  There's some serious stuff around and you'll need a long time and special tolls to remove that stuff when infected. 

 

   A good Anti virus such as Kaspersky will tell you which website's dangerous and some Anti virus programs that Thai technicians put on your PC can contain viruses and are very hard to delete.

 

  Here's the " Kaspersky Virus removal Tool", which runs a full scan after installation before you even put on a free version from Kaspersky with all features of the full version. https://www.kaspersky.com/downloads/thank-you/free-virus-removal-tool

 

  Once your machine is cleaned up, delete your AV system if it didn't detect what Kaspersky's Virus removal tool  found and install a trial version here: https://www.kaspersky.com/downloads/thank-you/free-antivirus-download

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

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37 minutes ago, rivaldo77 said:

I have been using Windows 10 for about 1.5 years. But the problem is my computer is infecting virus a lot rather than Windows 7. Anyone facing this issue?

 

Might need to switch the anti-malware you're using.

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1 hour ago, rivaldo77 said:

I have been using Windows 10 for about 1.5 years. But the problem is my computer is infecting virus a lot rather than Windows 7. Anyone facing this issue?

 

Win 10 is generally regarded as more secure than Win 7, especially by M'soft, except that it's a lot less secure from M'soft itself.

 

However some variable has probably changed in your config or usage of the 2 different OS.

 

Windows Defender, if kept updated, is really pretty good nowadays as an antivir. As noted above it needs supplementing. Personally I hate another AV program running in the background all the time and slowing things down. But many people feel the need for it. Me, I just run a scan w/ Malwarebytes free once a week. It never finds anything. :) If you want to be very certain your system's clean, I'd scan w/ Kapersky, Malwarebytes, and Sophos free at least once.

 

I'd also scan w/ AdwCleaner and/or HitmanPro for the adware. Maybe that's your problem, not some virus.

 

Finally to keep you from stumbling into dangerous sites without a heavy-handed antivir guarding you, you might simply modify your hosts file as explained here: https://www.howtogeek.com/319700/how-to-use-your-computers-hosts-file-to-block-tons-of-malware-porn-and-other-types-of-websites/.  There's a link there to Steven Black's various consolidated files, one of which is the MVPS hosts file. I've used that for many years. http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.htm. "There's no place like 127.0.0.1"

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3 minutes ago, JSixpack said:

 

Win 10 is generally regarded as more secure than Win 7, especially by M'soft, except that it's a lot less secure from M'soft itself.

 

However some variable has probably changed in your config or usage of the 2 different OS.

 

Windows Defender, if kept updated, is really pretty good nowadays as an antivir. As noted above it needs supplementing. Personally I hate another AV program running in the background all the time and slowing things down. But many people feel the need for it. Me, I just run a scan w/ Malwarebytes free once a week. It never finds anything. :) If you want to be very certain your system's clean, I'd scan w/ Kapersky, Malwarebytes, and Sophos free at least once.

 

I'd also scan w/ AdwCleaner and/or HitmanPro for the adware. Maybe that's your problem, not some virus.

 

Finally to keep you from stumbling into dangerous sites without a heavy-handed antivir guarding you, you might simply modify your hosts file as explained here: https://www.howtogeek.com/319700/how-to-use-your-computers-hosts-file-to-block-tons-of-malware-porn-and-other-types-of-websites/.  There's a link there to Steven Black's various consolidated files, one of which is the MVPS hosts file. I've used for many years. http://winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.htm. "There's no place like 127.0.0.1"

I'm currently trying "Aomei Malware Fighter", but I tend to believe that "Spy Hunter 4' does a better job for the really hard to catch malware. Aomei always shows some strange notifications that pop up too often.

 

To clean the registry and other tasks I believe that  "Advanced System Care 10" does a great job, even when MS says that these tasks are taken care of by W 10 Pro.

 

  Together with Kaspersky Internet security I always have a very fast machine that boots in 42 seconds with many programs starting up. I have free VPN, child security, and many other great features that come with the AV system

 

  What seems to be very important is to have back ups, better to have a few on an external drive. macrium is free and very efficient that you can clone drives and do other tasks with it.

 

  I also have Malwarebytes installed, but I'm still trying what's better and faster without slowing the system down.

 

If something goes wrong, a system restore with Macrium doesn't take longer than 40 minutes. I have the copy I've made right after the 1709 update, so it's like a fresh install, at least very similar. 

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1. what make/model is the laptop, was this a new laptop, does your laptop have a licence key on the underside for windows - it should have, you can use that to re-install windows on your laptop (clean install) if it doesn't and was supposed too then you have been shafted, just download the installer (media creation tool) from MSoft and use your key when asked, if you don't have a key then buy one

 

2. Once you have clean installed you don't need pot player or any other player, win10 default player plays everything out of the box without the need for codec (klite) packs etc

 

3. you might want to install MPC (media player classic) as a backup though but will very seldom need it if ever

 

note, only read the first 3 pages of this thread 

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18 hours ago, jenny2017 said:

I'm currently trying "Aomei Malware Fighter", but I tend to believe that "Spy Hunter 4' does a better job for the really hard to catch malware. Aomei always shows some strange notifications that pop up too often.

 

To clean the registry and other tasks I believe that  "Advanced System Care 10" does a great job, even when MS says that these tasks are taken care of by W 10 Pro.

 

  Together with Kaspersky Internet security I always have a very fast machine that boots in 42 seconds with many programs starting up. I have free VPN, child security, and many other great features that come with the AV system

 

  What seems to be very important is to have back ups, better to have a few on an external drive. macrium is free and very efficient that you can clone drives and do other tasks with it.

 

  I also have Malwarebytes installed, but I'm still trying what's better and faster without slowing the system down.

 

If something goes wrong, a system restore with Macrium doesn't take longer than 40 minutes. I have the copy I've made right after the 1709 update, so it's like a fresh install, at least very similar. 

you machine is full of useless clutter that you don't need, windows defender works and the odd scan with (free) malwarebytes  is all you need, oh and it take my desktop 6secs to boot

 

Macrium is good unless you are doing more complex tasks then you need to pay for the full version and there is also the built in windows app for creating a system image which also works, having your OS on a small partition works well with either option - you can move/map your default folders such as music video documents etc to another drive keeping your OS partition size to a minimum - takes me less than 10mins to do a macrium backup of my OS partition/drive

 

oh and I have never had a virus infection............... ever

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13 hours ago, JSixpack said:

 

Let's not go there. DANGER WILL ROBINSON.

 

 

Abandoned, superseded by MPC-BE. I gave a list of alternative players earlier. But the man likes Potplayer, so Potplayer it is.

fully aware of MPC BE, no idea of the meaning of your first line

 

 

the default player in windows is fine now out of the box, no need for codec packs or anything else, this becomes more relevant if you are HDR enabled - having to repeat the point because you deleted parts of my original post

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2 hours ago, smedly said:

fully aware of MPC BE, no idea of the meaning of your first line

 

 

Oh. Well, then you should have mentioned it. You'll need to read the whole thread.

 

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the default player in windows is fine now out of the box, no need for codec packs or anything else, this becomes more relevant if you are HDR enabled - having to repeat the point because you deleted parts of my original post

 

 

Members have already read your original post, which is right above my reply, so no need to repeat it. The deleted part was irrelevant to my reply. You've missed the point that people don't like the default media player because of its bloat. They prefer something simpler to deal with that uses a lot less CPU and, depending on the player, a lot less RAM.

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2 hours ago, JSixpack said:

 

Oh. Well, then you should have mentioned it. You'll need to read the whole thread.

 

 

Members have already read your original post, which is right above my reply, so no need to repeat it. The deleted part was irrelevant to my reply. You've missed the point that people don't like the default media player because of its bloat. They prefer something simpler to deal with that uses a lot less CPU and, depending on the player, a lot less RAM.

depends on what hardware you have, most GPU (and now CPU) have H/W decoders built in for all codecs so there is minimal system impact, no need for S/W decoding anymore, so no idea what the bloat is you are referring too, I used to run Klite but is no longer required

 

Like I said and I will repeat it again - there is now no need for 3rd party players or codec packs in win 10, yes a year ago that may have been different but not now and not everyone is aware of that fact so you can thank me for posting it here to ,let everyone know

 

Best regards

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1 hour ago, smedly said:

depends on what hardware you have, most GPU (and now CPU) have H/W decoders built in for all codecs so there is minimal system impact, no need for S/W decoding anymore, so no idea what the bloat is you are referring too

 

 

Impact is using 2.3% of CPU and 43MB of RAM in a minimal case as opposed to, say, 0-.3% and 11 MB for SMplayer. Bloat is all that library (attempting to take over), streaming, organizing (maybe not by folder, which a lot of people like), burning, syncing, and probably spying. As you noted, depends on your hardware. Suppose the OP believes his hardware, or rather he himself, is happier without that "minimal system impact" and bloat. Suppose he likes the context menus, with wanted features immediately accessible, of other players?

 

A lot of Win owners are great minimalists regardless of what hardware they have. And that's simply their choice. I don't care; why should you? OP wants Potplayer. He's gonna get it. I also prefer MPC-BE or SMplayer for vids. I like foobar for music. Suggest you just live with it, man.

 

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Like I said and I will repeat it again - there is now no need for 3rd party players

 

Yawn. How many times would like to repeat it? Any upper limit? I don't think anything is being added by mere repetition. Personally I'd be a little concerned if I continually repeated myself. At least you're aware you're doing it, however, so no need to take the online ALS test quite yet. :smile:

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16 minutes ago, JSixpack said:

 

Impact is using 2.3% of CPU and 43MB of RAM in a minimal case as opposed to, say, 0-.3% and 11 MB for SMplayer. Bloat is all that library (attempting to take over), streaming, organizing (maybe not by folder, which a lot of people like), burning, syncing, and probably spying. As you noted, depends on your hardware. Suppose the OP believes his hardware, or rather he himself, is happier without that "minimal system impact" and bloat. Suppose he likes the context menus, with wanted features immediately accessible, of other players?

 

A lot of Win owners are great minimalists regardless of what hardware they have. And that's simply their choice. I don't care; why should you? OP wants Potplayer. He's gonna get it. I also prefer MPC-BE or SMplayer for vids. I like foobar for music. Suggest you just live with it, man.

 

 

Yawn. How many times would like to repeat it? Any upper limit? I don't think anything is being added by mere repetition. Personally I'd be a little concerned if I continually repeated myself. At least you're aware you're doing it, however, so no need to take the online ALS test quite yet. :smile:

oh dear

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On 11/8/2017 at 7:43 PM, Pib said:

Nope.

Nope.  Viruses come from sites you visit, links you click on, devices you attach, etc., whether you use Win 7 or Win 10.  I have not read anything suggesting Win 10 is less secure than Win 7.

oh, i thought the problem on Windows 10. But from your writing I am clear right now. Thanks!

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On 11/8/2017 at 8:14 PM, Meljames said:

 

Might need to switch the anti-malware you're using.

I already installed Kaspersky onto my PC. And now everything is going well. Thanks!

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most people are administrators on their computers.................if you click yes to something being presented to you then generally you will be granting admin permissions which is dangerous, also check the URL (website address) that you are going to, always use the original link that you know is genuine and avoid anything that might look the same but you don't know were it came from 

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Oh God, your post reminded me of when I used to use Windows....so much twiddling around and reinstalling software.  

 

Thank you Apple for 8 years so far of worry and hassle  free computer use.

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Win 10 installers and reinstallers, both casual and Bots, may be interested in this reduced edition:

 

Windows 10 Home No Bloatware Edition is a stripped down version of Windows 10 Home with most of the bloat removed. Also available for 32-Bit Professional and 64-Bit Professional.

Windows 10 Home No Bloatware Edition isn't for everyone. You can do this for yourself with the MSMG Toolkit. It is merely a stripped down ISO and requires you have a valid key to install Windows 10 Pro. It is only available in English, which it seems you can read if you made it this far :)

As always, this was created by someone who wanted the bloat gone. Say goodbye to the Windows Store, Windows Media Player, Edge, Hyper-V, Windows Defender, and much more. If you want a really stripped down version of Windows 10, this is it. Otherwise, again, make your own ISO with MSMG Toolkit.
 
 
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On 11/10/2017 at 2:39 PM, smedly said:

 no idea what the bloat is you are referring to

 

 

So I explained the bloat of Windows Media Player. Note that in a recent bloat-reduced custom edition, it's one of the components removed.

 

 

As you seem blissfully unaware of the other M'soft bloat throughout the Win 10 (even the telemetry bloat, which is rather a shock), you might read up on what people commonly consider default bloat in Win 10--and consider getting rid of it for users who might appreciate your doing so. Of course, many are unaware that it's bloat, so no need to bother in those cases.:cool:

 

https://www.google.co.th/search?hl=en&q=windows+10+bloat&gws_rd=cr&dcr=0&ei=o3sKWuj6AYr6vASxl4OYDA

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1 hour ago, JSixpack said:

 

So I explained the bloat of Windows Media Player. Note that in a recent bloat-reduced custom edition, it's one of the components removed.

 

 

As you seem blissfully unaware of the other M'soft bloat throughout the Win 10 (even the telemetry bloat, which is rather a shock), you might read up on what people commonly consider default bloat in Win 10--and consider getting rid of it for users who might appreciate your doing so. Of course, many are unaware that it's bloat, so no need to bother in those cases.:cool:

 

https://www.google.co.th/search?hl=en&q=windows+10+bloat&gws_rd=cr&dcr=0&ei=o3sKWuj6AYr6vASxl4OYDA

 

I still prefer NTLite to strip down the images, but everyone to their own. (32 & 64 bit in the link)

 

https://www.ntlite.com/download/

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3 hours ago, GreytMan said:

No sign of Chiangrai.

 

 

You'd need to read the thread to discover why not.

 

On 11/6/2017 at 7:43 PM, chiangrai said:

I think I am going to back out of this post now.I think it's turned into to much of an argument but I really appreciate every thing every body's done for me.

 

I have to go away for a few days tomorrow and when I come back I will open a new thread and have a clear idea of what I want to do.

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So after that it's been kickin' around the ol' football, somewhat related to reinstalling, sometimes. :smile:

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5 hours ago, JSixpack said:

 

So I explained the bloat of Windows Media Player. Note that in a recent bloat-reduced custom edition, it's one of the components removed.

 

 

As you seem blissfully unaware of the other M'soft bloat throughout the Win 10 (even the telemetry bloat, which is rather a shock), you might read up on what people commonly consider default bloat in Win 10--and consider getting rid of it for users who might appreciate your doing so. Of course, many are unaware that it's bloat, so no need to bother in those cases.:cool:

 

https://www.google.co.th/search?hl=en&q=windows+10+bloat&gws_rd=cr&dcr=0&ei=o3sKWuj6AYr6vASxl4OYDA

I'm an Apple fan boy but when in Thailand use my Windows PC as I can't afford two Apple Macs!

 

Deleted a load of bloat this afternoon so thank you for that.

 

 

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