Pattaya's billion baht CCTV slammed as officials admit more than half of them are not working

[KIWIBATCH]

....and he also said that only 47% of the 100 staff in the control tower monitoring the CCTV's actually did any work...

[Lupatria]

Pockets full, mission accomplished. Good luck with your submarines!

[Nemesis7]

Well it doesn't surprise me, got the job order by bribing i suppose and accepted low quality CCTV cams, and this is what happens when you have cheap materials. Sad

[Jimbo1964]

"Pattaya has spent a billion baht on 2,112 cameras"............1,000,000,000 / 2112 = 473,348 per camera. NO, I don't think so. Pattaya has NOT spent a billion baht on cameras, its been spent on making someone very rich whilst installing cheap chinese crap.

 

For that price you could buy a top of the range system with full state of the art analytics. 

 

And Pattaya is just one city! 

[farcanell]

6 hours ago, z42 said:

Disgusting and immoral. It just simply isn't possible to trust any civil servants in this country. 

How is this any different from out and out thievery?

Not different.... if they want to grab the local official in charge, and toss him in jail for neglect of duties... good for One and all

[Knocker33]

6 hours ago, darksidedog said:

That's 473, 484 Baht per camera. Those cameras should rock. Or maybe the cameras were a tad overpriced, with the difference finding its way to someone else?

Hey that's a bargain they were going to pay 750k per speed camera. God knows where these people do their shopping

[hansnl]

6 hours ago, z42 said:

Disgusting and immoral. It just simply isn't possible to trust any civil servants in this country. 

How is this any different from out and out thievery?

Civil servants only?

[farcanell]

5 minutes ago, Jimbo1964 said:

"Pattaya has spent a billion baht on 2,112 cameras"............1,000,000,000 / 2112 = 473,348 per camera. NO, I don't think so. Pattaya has NOT spent a billion baht on cameras, its been spent on making someone very rich whilst installing cheap chinese crap.

 

For that price you could buy a top of the range system with full state of the art analytics. 

 

And Pattaya is just one city! 

20,000 dollars per camera.

 

plus accessories.?

plus installation.?

plus monitoring.?

plus additional base equipment to handle increased work (?) load?

etc ( special envelope)....

 

doesnt seem that excessive.

 

id say post purchase user incompetence, is what makes the expense seem disproportionate. 

 

[ujayujay]

6 hours ago, ChrisY1 said:

Chinese cameras?

 

You dig on the wrong Groove: Not the Cameras are the Problem, but Installation and Maintenance. 90% of all CCTV Cameras worldwide are Made in China. Do you really think, they are dilettantes

[observer90210]

Is it the same boys who maintain the tourist bus brakes, who offer maintenance for the CCTV's ?

 

Assuming it's not maintenance that's at fault, one must exercise caution with the Made in China invasion of slashed price electronics in general.

 

Yes even Mac is Made in China, but under proper supervision and quality control.

 

Unless it's a reputable brand, from a reputable company, don't fall for the rest at rock bottom prices....as the stuff just won't last.

 

But in the case of Pattaya, they paid a fortune for the CCTV network...perhaps it was not the price worth ? Who gained in that case and were there any under-the-table brown bag kick backs ?

Edited November 13, 2017 by observer90210

[dassyurus]

I just see... 50% chance of NOT getting caught... Better odds than with the Missus!!!

 

[natway09]

I am amazed,,,,, that 47% are actually working

[chuang]

Everyone has a chance to milk the country, just wait for your turn. 

[novo58]

An ex - prime minister is charge over a rice scheme that went wrong  ....any chance of anyone being charged over this fiasco ........

[BernieOnTour]

2 hours ago, NextStationBangkok said:

Police should join with private property owners, and get their camera connected to police network, and pay them some fees.

 

That would save cost, also help people to make revenue, rather than Police pay for maintenance etc. They can start with outside 7-11's store cameras connected to police network.

 

Sounds reasonable ... but only at at first sight.

Sorry, it seems, you still did not get, why they kicked off these 31 camera projects 

 

[stanleycoin]

28 minutes ago, dassyurus said:

I just see... 50% chance of NOT getting caught... Better odds than with the Missus!!!

 

Take your own brand of soap with you and don't do it

on your own door step, your be fine then 

[JRUSA]

3 hours ago, uktony said:

Can I just point out that "57% were of any use," is NOT "more than half of them are not working"

Re-read the article, the 57% number was working cameras in beach road area, city wide less the half work..

[Jonnapat]

7 hours ago, ChrisY1 said:

Chinese cameras?

 

Maybe, but there is such a thing as maintenance  a word not really associated with Thailand in many aspects.

[Ossy]

 

7 hours ago, webfact said:

Pattaya's billion baht CCTV slammed as officials admit more than half of them are not working

There is probably one and only one reason why more than half of them are not working.

They've been installed, I suspect, by supposedly semi-skilled but, in reality, unskilled Thai workers who think that anything that looks like a finished job is good enough. Look at this brand-new 3-phase electric supply for an irrigation scheme. This heavy concrete pole is next to our house and our supply has been looped along the new poles. You can see the crazy angle of the pole, but the scary and sad thing is that the gang boss must have thought that was an OK job. I'll bet it's the same 'it'll do' disease that's put the Pattaya cameras out. The typical Thai artisan's work standards are PITIFUL.

[Bluespunk]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

Pattaya's billion baht CCTV slammed as officials admit more than half of them are not working

So about 450 million baht well spent?

[Bangkok Barry]

3 hours ago, NextStationBangkok said:

Yes we can order from China, they have dummy cameras too for $5, just install outside home, so that thieves will think there is a security and they will not enter.

 

Wouldn't work in Thailand, where intruders would simply assume they aren't working as that is the norm 

Edited November 13, 2017 by Bangkok Barry

[Rimmer]

Some off topic and troll posts have been removed

[garbolino]

how are the Police suppose to GET EVIDENCE when so many cameras do NOT WORK ???

[Thakkar]

Surely the real shocker here is that almost half the cameras ARE working!

[naboo]

My neighbour installed 3 cameras on his property, each constantly feeding video footage to cloud storage. Under 10,000B including installation. Could install 150 cameras for the price of one Pattaya government version.

[naboo]

35 minutes ago, garbolino said:

how are the Police suppose to GET EVIDENCE when so many cameras do NOT WORK ???

Evidence needs to fit the story with most financial impact. Cameras don't always provide the correct evidence.

[NeoDinosaw]

4 hours ago, uktony said:

Can I just point out that "57% were of any use," is NOT "more than half of them are not working"

That is better than the rate for speed cameras on British roads  !

[NeoDinosaw]

3 hours ago, desktop said:

You can point it out, but you you are wrong.

High tourist area - 382 cameras only 219 or 57% were of any use.

All of Pattaya - 2,112 of which 47% are of use. 

Have another Leo, then read and comprehend fella.

Here's a link to the speed cameras in UK  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41869134

[johnhw]

5 hours ago, USNret said:

That's pretty much summarizes any public works project in LOS.  They are little more than an excuse to shovel hard-earned baht into eager pockets. That's the entire premise of high-speed rail; nobody really wants a train.  

 

5 hours ago, USNret said:

 

 

[Sir Swagman]

8 hours ago, darksidedog said:

That's 473, 484 Baht per camera. Those cameras should rock. Or maybe the cameras were a tad overpriced, with the difference finding its way to someone else?

The standard seems to be max list price X5, rounded up. Of course if they are like

 the famous camera in Bangkok, they may have no interior parts. It makes them so much easier to maintain.