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7 hours ago, PatOngo said:

Things are getting out of control in the family resort, maybe time to limit the number of families entering the resort.

I used to see far worse in other countries, my own included. I never feel under threat walking around Pattaya late at night and I've lived here for 11 years.

 

I hope the family is enjoying it.

 

 

 

I don't like the idea of violence or fighting unless it is clearly a matter of self defense.    That statement includes how i feel about policies of countries   There's nothing really clear in this short clip other than we have a not young or buffed falang involved in an altercation  with Thai  fellows.

 

As I see it, this not young felang more than held his own.    He  gave far better than he received.

 

In the end the Thai fellow in the white  shirt decided he did not have enough fellow Thais to help him gang up on the falang.  The Thai guy let it all go.    I give a power rating to the yellow shirt guy.   Tough dude.

 

 

Blame the cheap airlines.

These guys should not be allowed out of their home country

Pattaya is a family resort, probably one of the best in Thailand, it's just the newsworthy stuff happens in the less family frequented areas. I love the Pattaya region for the water parks, zoos, Harbour Mall, the variety of shops, the higher percentage of English speakers (as my Thai is still poor) and when the kids (even the older ones) want to go down Walking Street, we go as a family and have never experienced any of this stuff (touch wood). Maybe, like anywhere in the world, if you go looking for trouble you will find it. It's not the location, it's the mind-set.

8 hours ago, PatOngo said:

Things are getting out of control in the family resort, maybe time to limit the number of families entering the resort.

Time to close down the city for a while and immediately deport anyone involved in fighting brawling in public areas, Thais cant be deported so lock them up not stupid 500 baht fines

I just had a great weekend in Pattaya, including Saturday night on Walking street listening to some great music. people take these incidents out of context and blow them out of all proportion generally speaking.

The scaredy cats who say they will never go to Pattaya....ok no problem...don't go.... you won't be missed. If a brawl is reason to not go to a town then I am afraid there aren't many places left for you to go to in Thailand or elsewhere.

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It all adds to why I love this place.

I want to see more fights and brawls please.

5 hours ago, Bangkok Barry said:

Pattaya has never been, isn't and never will be a world class resort.

Thats because it is not a resort.

A resort is Kapalua on Maui.

Pattaya is a city with problems many cities have.

11 hours ago, PatOngo said:

Things are getting out of control in the family resort, maybe time to limit the number of families entering the resort.

Pattaya isn't a family resort.  It reminds me more of Shanghai in the twenties when the sailors were in town (I remember it well ) and should come with an adults only warning!

 

Thailand has some wonderful beaches and great restaurants and a lot of warm and welcoming people.  And then there is Pattaya....       

I see yellow shirts and white shirts but not a red shirt in sight?

Bring back Yingluck!

The douche can be strong in Pattaya.

considering how much boozing is going on in pattaya, there is surprisingly very few fights

11 hours ago, impulse said:

 

I think incidents like this, and the poor Aussie guy will do just that.   Add the in-your-face sex, in-the-open porn and sex toys for sale and you have a natural family repellent.

 

I know lots of people back home that won't bring their families to Thailand.  It's a shame really, because a family with kids probably outspends the guys in these incidents by a wide margin.  Better hotels, days on the town shopping instead of shacked up nursing a hangover, more and better meals, souvenirs for the kids- all of them unsold because of Thailand's reputation. 

 

True, they may sell more beer and bar fines...  But that's not how you maintain a popular resort, much less a world class resort.

 

Tell that to Las Vegas.

2 hours ago, Hooliganzone said:

Time to close down the city for a while and immediately deport anyone involved in fighting brawling in public areas, Thais cant be deported so lock them up not stupid 500 baht fines

They should definitely do this anywhere in the world where there are soccer hooligans.

11 hours ago, impulse said:

11 hours ago, PatOngo said:

Things are getting out of control in the family resort, maybe time to limit the number of families entering the resort.

 

I think incidents like this, and the poor Aussie guy will do just that.   Add the in-your-face sex, in-the-open porn and sex toys for sale and you have a natural family repellent.

 

I know lots of people back home that won't bring their families to Thailand.  It's a shame really, because a family with kids probably outspends the guys in these incidents by a wide margin.  Better hotels, days on the town shopping instead of shacked up nursing a hangover, more and better meals, souvenirs for the kids- all of them unsold because of Thailand's reputation. 

 

True, they may sell more beer and bar fines...  But that's not how you maintain a popular resort, much less a world class resort.

Pattaya maybe, but not the whole of Thailand. Families go to other parts of Thailand - well families from my neck of the woods (UK) anyway.

 

9 hours ago, boomerangutang said:

Evolutionarily speaking, intra-species fighting evolved around the same time that male/female sex evolved.

 

Elephants in musth go violent, and should be avoided.

 

Human males, when put in a scenario of lots of available sex - get more testosterone pumped into their blood.  That's libido can go toward sex (sometimes violent or kinky) and/or violence.

 

I was with a US Navy guy, early 20's, on leave. He went into a whore house, got with a ravishing young Asian woman.  He was in the room for 3 times the alloted time (and yes, he paid for the added time).  The reason he was in there so long, was that he couldn't get a hard on.  Too much anxiety, testosterone, mental-conflict-with-religious-upbringing, etc,..... so he lay alongside the beautiful lady in frustration for nearly 2 hours.

 

When he exited, he walked fast on the street, cussing loudly and slamming his fist into nearly everything he passed: mailboxes, light posts, walls.  His knuckles were bloody.

Maybe he should have tried a ladyboy, or maybe he did and that caused his reaction.

Just sayin'

11 hours ago, impulse said:

 

I think incidents like this, and the poor Aussie guy will do just that.   Add the in-your-face sex, in-the-open porn and sex toys for sale and you have a natural family repellent.

 

I know lots of people back home that won't bring their families to Thailand.  It's a shame really, because a family with kids probably outspends the guys in these incidents by a wide margin.  Better hotels, days on the town shopping instead of shacked up nursing a hangover, more and better meals, souvenirs for the kids- all of them unsold because of Thailand's reputation. 

 

True, they may sell more beer and bar fines...  But that's not how you maintain a popular resort, much less a world class resort.

 

The only problem is that the biggest beneficiaries of  kickbacks from bars, prostitues, porn industry, drugs, land mafia, extortioners, boiler room scammers etc etc are all very powerful persons in uniform or closely connected to them, collecting by the billions? If there are only legitimate businesses catering to families, who suffers the most? The very people who are tasked with cleaning them up!

9 hours ago, boomerangutang said:

Evolutionarily speaking, intra-species fighting evolved around the same time that male/female sex evolved.

 

Elephants in musth go violent, and should be avoided.

 

Human males, when put in a scenario of lots of available sex - get more testosterone pumped into their blood.  That's libido can go toward sex (sometimes violent or kinky) and/or violence.

 

I was with a US Navy guy, early 20's, on leave. He went into a whore house, got with a ravishing young Asian woman.  He was in the room for 3 times the alloted time (and yes, he paid for the added time).  The reason he was in there so long, was that he couldn't get a hard on.  Too much anxiety, testosterone, mental-conflict-with-religious-upbringing, etc,..... so he lay alongside the beautiful lady in frustration for nearly 2 hours.

 

When he exited, he walked fast on the street, cussing loudly and slamming his fist into nearly everything he passed: mailboxes, light posts, walls.  His knuckles were bloody.

I guess his wrist also saw some action later that night. 

I can never understand why fighting would even enter a blokes head in a place like this. Everything a man could possibly want is on tap, yet they manage to find a reason to get involved in fisticuffs?

 

I would actually question their sexuality if they prefer rolling around with other men to what else is on offer...

Many are deluded on many issues....from all corners of the world. 

18 minutes ago, Sir Dude said:

Many are deluded on many issues....from all corners of the world. 

I've seen guys get all bitter and twisted after BFing a hooker one night and the following night going into the same place and seeing her sitting close up to another guy.

The mind boggles sometimes.

1 hour ago, Mac98 said:

13 hours ago, impulse said:

True, they may sell more beer and bar fines...  But that's not how you maintain a popular resort, much less a world class resort.

Tell that to Las Vegas.

 

You mean the Las Vegas that saw a huge boom in tourism when they cleaned up and catered to families?  That Las Vegas?

 

4 minutes ago, overherebc said:

I've seen guys get all bitter and twisted after BFing a hooker one night and the following night going into the same place and seeing her sitting close up to another guy.

The mind boggles sometimes.

And yet they wouldn't be the same at the bike rental shop, i.e. getting all antsy because someone else took out the Honda Click with the green stripe.

 

It's quite simple.  You extend the rental contract or the goods go back in the shop window

1 hour ago, CG1 Blue said:

Pattaya maybe, but not the whole of Thailand. Families go to other parts of Thailand - well families from my neck of the woods (UK) anyway.

 

Absolutely true.  But how many more would come and spend their holiday money if they didn't have to explain to their kids why there are puddles of puke on the Saturday morning sidewalks, and why there are 14" plastic schlongs and in-your-face porn for sale right outside their hotel door?

 

For every dollar they'd lose in beer and bar fines, I suspect they'd gain $2 in family spending.  It would be painful for awhile, but more sustainable for the long haul.

 

 

 

 

I just like the girls voice "papa" 55555 papa will need some painkillers tonight 

7 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Absolutely true.  But how many more would come and spend their holiday money if they didn't have to explain to their kids why there are puddles of puke on the Saturday morning sidewalks, and why there are 14" plastic schlongs and in-your-face porn for sale right outside their hotel door?

 

For every dollar they'd lose in beer and bar fines, I suspect they'd gain $2 in family spending.  It would be painful for awhile, but more sustainable for the long haul.

 

 

 

 

I think that is why cgi was separating Pattaya from the rest of Thailand.  There are plenty of family friendly places still around and anyone going to Pattaya for a family holiday needs their heads examining.  The same with Phuket.  We used to go there from Chiang Mai for a family holiday but never to Patong.  

Another bar fight in another well known tourist location.

Reminds me of Cyprus, Philippines, America, Canada, BWI, various European locations and of course Scotland.

Will it stop, not a chance....next.


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Ah Pattaya, you impress again

8 hours ago, dunroaming said:

I think that is why cgi was separating Pattaya from the rest of Thailand.  There are plenty of family friendly places still around and anyone going to Pattaya for a family holiday needs their heads examining.  The same with Phuket.  We used to go there from Chiang Mai for a family holiday but never to Patong.  

 

I agree.  The problem is the snickering and gasps of the neighbors when you tell them you took the kids to Thailand on holiday.  I like the place, in spite of not drinking or chasing women for sport.  Thailand is so much more than beer and women and porn and plastic winkies.  But unfortunately, the great places don't make the news like this story and others like it.  And it can take some local knowledge to get from the airport to the great places without getting a big dose of the family repellent parts thrown up in your (and your kids') face.