BREAKING: Bodies of 4 babies found dumped in trash in Hua Hin

[Janner1]

2 minutes ago, oldlakey said:

Is there no end to this nonsense

I could not read more of the stupid posts on this subject, However if it has already been covered or discredited I do not make any apologies for my own post because in essence it was concerning fools who readily blame abortion clinics.

 

Abortion clinics abort the unborn child, This story fake or otherwise was about the living child

[GroveHillWanderer]

14 minutes ago, Janner1 said:

I could not read more of the stupid posts on this subject, However if it has already been covered or discredited I do not make any apologies for my own post because in essence it was concerning fools who readily blame abortion clinics.

 

Abortion clinics abort the unborn child, This story fake or otherwise was about the living child

No it's not - this is about aborted foetuses. The use of the word 'babies' is a mis-translation from the original article in Thai.

 

I think (hope) we are allowed to quote from The Nation newspaper - their report makes it quite clear:

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Prachuap Khiri Khan police are gathering evidence to apply for a court’s permission to search a clinic suspected of providing illegal abortion services in Muang Hua Hin municipality, following the Tuesday discovery of four foetuses in garbage bins near a convenience store in Soi Hua Hin 68.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/breakingnews/30338927

Edited February 15, 2018 by GroveHillWanderer

[Janner1]

8 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

No it's not - this is about aborted foetuses. The use of the word 'babies' is a mis-translation from the original article in Thai.

Go back to the beginning and read the original report as posted here.

It clearly says the children were between 8 weeks and 4 months old and that is what I reacted to, as did others.

 

I have no objection to people posting comments because after all that is what this forum is about, but at least READ the original post before making derogatory comments against the posts of those who have.

[Annunaki]

30 minutes ago, Janner1 said:

I could not read more of the stupid posts on this subject, However if it has already been covered or discredited I do not make any apologies for my own post because in essence it was concerning fools who readily blame abortion clinics.

 

Abortion clinics abort the unborn child, This story fake or otherwise was about the living child

 

Why don't you try reading the posts in this thread instead of just replying blind?

[Annunaki]

Some people just can't be educated.

[WHYWHY]

Can we stick to this Tradgedy 

4 little Babies lost there short life.

We don't need to go into speculation on anything 

Just pray the Person or Persons are caught and brought to justice 

[GroveHillWanderer]

47 minutes ago, Janner1 said:

Go back to the beginning and read the original report as posted here.

It clearly says the children were between 8 weeks and 4 months old and that is what I reacted to, as did others.

 

I have no objection to people posting comments because after all that is what this forum is about, but at least READ the original post before making derogatory comments against the posts of those who have.

I have read the original post - but then I also read all the others in between, something I always try to do before commenting. I'm also not sure it's a good idea to go only on the original post, especially given the number of times that ThaiVisa News has given a misleading or simply inaccurate report on news items. 

 

Reading the posts in between would show that there have been a large number of posts pointing out that these were foetuses, not babies - and even a couple of minutes spent checking on other, generally more reliable sources will show this.

 

Incidentally, Thai Visa News itself is now reporting a more accurate follow

up version of the story where it is clearly stated these were foetuses.

 

https://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/1025223-hua-hin-police-to-apply-to-search-suspected-abortion-clinic/

Edited February 15, 2018 by GroveHillWanderer

[GroveHillWanderer]

8 minutes ago, WHYWHY said:

Can we stick to this Tradgedy 

4 little Babies lost there short life.

We don't need to go into speculation on anything 

Just pray the Person or Persons are caught and brought to justice 

It's kind of difficult to stick to the tragedy of "4 little babies" when the fact is that they weren't babies. If people are commenting based on factually incorrect information then I think that should be pointed out.

[WHYWHY]

3 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

It's kind of difficult to stick to the tragedy of "4 little babies" when the fact is that they weren't babies. If people are commenting based on factually incorrect information then I think that should be pointed out.

2 to 4 months old are still  babies

[Janner1]

8 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

I have read the original post - but then I also read all the others in between, something I always try to do before commenting. I'm also not sure it's a good idea to go only on the original post, especially given the number of times that ThaiVisa News has given a misleading or simply inaccurate report on news items. 

 

Reading the posts in between would show that there have been a large number of posts pointing out that these were foetuses, not babies - and even a couple of minutes spent checking on other, generally more reliable sources will show this.

 

Incidentally, Thai Visa News itself is now reporting a more accurate follow

up version of the story where it is clearly stated these were foetuses.

 

https://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/1025223-hua-hin-police-to-apply-to-search-suspected-abortion-clinic/

My comment was clear and specific upon the the article as posted herein.

I have not read or posted comment on anything that came after.

 

However I do have a rather large dent from banging my head against a brick wall over this point

[oldlakey]

5 hours ago, Janner1 said:

I could not read more of the stupid posts on this subject, However if it has already been covered or discredited I do not make any apologies for my own post because in essence it was concerning fools who readily blame abortion clinics.

 

Abortion clinics abort the unborn child, This story fake or otherwise was about the living child

As I commented earlier NEVERMIND

[foxteen]

On 14/02/2018 at 7:29 AM, Bob12345 said:

Exactly.

 

And that should not be a big surprise in a country with:

- low education standards

- non-existent sex education

- a culture of denying responsibility

- low prospects for many to get a good life

- rules and regulations outlawing abortion

Yep and is getting worse. 

[JOC]

After all the "experts" had their say......time for some facts:

Some interesting and informative reading here....http://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/2017/03/03/abortion-thailand-safe-legal-may-thought/

[WHYWHY]

Ok so is Abortion why the hell would anyone put them in a bin 

[AmericanSafety]

Abortion is NOT illegal in Thailand. Just highly frowned upon.

[GroveHillWanderer]

10 hours ago, AmericanSafety said:

Abortion is NOT illegal in Thailand. Just highly frowned upon.

Well I guess it depends on how you look at it but the way the 1956 law is worded, abortion is 'a priori' illegal in Thailand. 

 

The following is extracted from the actual wording of the law:

 

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Any woman, causing herself to be aborted or allowing the other person to procure the abortion for herself, shall be imprisoned [...] or fined [...]

 

Whoever procures abortion for a woman with  her consent, shall be punished with imprisonment [...] or fined [...]

 

Whoever procures abortion for a woman without her consent, shall be punished with imprisonment [...] or fined [...]

The law then goes on to list the situations where having or carrying out an abortion can be done without incurring these penalties. 

 

So I think it's more accurate to say that abortion is illegal in Thailand, but that there are exceptions, under which it is permissible.

Edited February 17, 2018 by GroveHillWanderer

[thaiclan]

An 8 week foetus is about the size of the fingernail on your thumb. About 1.5cm.
I guess the entire waste was thrown in together and they (the police) sorted out what was what in order to identify the foetus that are 8 weeks.

It is weird why they wouldn't just flush that down the toilet?

In the UK (and other countries) many abortions before 9 weeks are done at home via an oral pill (Mifepristone) and the embryo is passed along with blood often unseen by the woman as there are other clots present which may well be bigger than the actual embryo.

Between 9-12 weeks the oral pill route can still be taken but usually at supervised clinics.  The embryo is now technically called a foetus and is about 5.5cm.

 

Seems like a very shoddy abortion outfit is in operation.  If they cannot professionally or at least intelligently get rid of clinical waste then how competent are they undertaking abortions!?