Lift at Maxx Hotel falls after electrical short-circuit

[webfact]

Lift at Maxx Hotel falls after electrical short-circuit

By Thai PBS

 

 

A lift of a three-star Bangkok hotel on Rama 9 fell off from the 24th floor early Friday morning (Feb 23) after a brief fire at an elevator control room.

 

Huay Kwang police said the accident happened at the 350-room Maxx Hotel at about 8am, but there was no injuries.

 

Initital report said there was eletrical short circuit at the control room of the lifts, sparking off a fire. The fire quickly raged to one of the hotel’s five lifts, causing it to fall from the 24th floor and stuck at the 16th floor. Other four lifts also stranded as electricity was cut.

 

Full story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/lift-maxx-hotel-falls-electrical-short-circuit/

 

-- © Copyright Thai PBS 2018-02-23

[Just1Voice]

Thank goodness no one was in them at the time.  That's pure heart attack action if there had been. 

 

[quandow]

Shouldn't the officials be frowning and pointing at something?

[Get Real]

Another lift from the 19th century with no automatic brakes working. This must be like an extra update regerding lifts here.

[Crossy]

9 minutes ago, Get Real said:

Another lift from the 19th century with no automatic brakes working. This must be like an extra update regerding lifts here.

It only fell 8 floors, so one assumes the gravity brake did its job, eventually.

 

[norbra]

Must admit that in the home country the manner in which the ends of the hoisting ropes were "fitted off" they could never break away from the the lift,but here this could well be the point of failure.

38 minutes ago, Crossy said:

It only fell 8 floors, so one assumes the gravity brake did its job, eventually.

 

Assuming this lift had 5 or 6 hoisting ropes it would take a huge fire to burn through these steel ropes,if the ropes were still intact , and had the motor brake been fire damaged, the empty lift would go up not down as the counter weight is 60+% heavier than the empty lift. I have attended several lift fires where the complete shafts and control rooms have been gutted,the only remains were the driving motor.the overspeed detection equipment the hoisting cables, the steel lift car structure, the counter weight and all the guide rails. In all these cases the hoisting cables had stretched but had not broken

Edited February 23, 2018 by norbra
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[sammieuk1]

Brake failure now spreading upward.

[Srikcir]

4 hours ago, webfact said:

A lift of a three-star Bangkok hotel on Rama 9 fell off from the 24th floor

Maybe a star should also fall from the hotel's rating as well?

[Lupatria]

They are just using the Thailand 4.0 program to upgrade the balcony jumps.

[observer90210]

Wonderful maintenance - wonderful safety assessment from the authorities - if the authorities put it the same energy and hassle on safety standards as they do on visa issues, things would work just fine !

[soalbundy]

4 hours ago, Crossy said:

It only fell 8 floors, so one assumes the gravity brake did its job, eventually.

 

so if the lift was on the 5th floor when it started to fall you would be in trouble

[PerkinsCuthbert]

4 hours ago, sammieuk1 said:

Brake failure now spreading upward.

Did the lift flunkey do a runner?

[stud858]

I've seen inside my ex condos lift room. Metal filings scattered all over the floor from cable operation.  Very dangerous i thought that the lift company doesn't bother vacuuming and cleaning to avoid shorted circuitry. I've asked my current condo manager to check the room and make sure it is clean.

[norbra]

On 2/24/2018 at 12:44 AM, stud858 said:

I've seen inside my ex condos lift room. Metal filings scattered all over the floor from cable operation.  Very dangerous i thought that the lift company doesn't bother vacuuming and cleaning to avoid shorted circuitry. I've asked my current condo manager to check the room and make sure it is clean.

Definitely unsafe situation as the metal filing come from the inside of the cable due to lack of lubrication in the hemp core.  The cables then become "thinner" and have a tendency to lose traction and or break. Should have been renewed long ago.

[stud858]

47 minutes ago, norbra said:

Definitely unsafe situation as the metal filing come from the inside of the cable due to lack of lubrication in the hemp core.  The cables then become "thinner" and have a tendency to lose traction and or break. Should have been renewed long ago.

Just finished meeting with manager of condo. Room is clean. 2 lifts are maintained by Hitachi company on yearly contract at my condo.

Anybody know the maintenance company involved at recent accident?

[nisakiman]

On 2/23/2018 at 9:20 AM, Crossy said:

It only fell 8 floors, so one assumes the gravity brake did its job, eventually.

 

Not very reassuring if you're on the 7th floor.

[norbra]

On 1 year contracts  replacing hoisting ropes and other safety equipment is the responsibilty of the owner, the maintenance company should be providing the owner with information/quotation to correct foreseeable problems.