Popular Post Airbagwill Posted March 30, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said: Yes we did. It took nearly 40 years to get the opportunity after so many politicians like Blair and Cameron promising one previously. The people have spoken. We tried living as part of the EU and we have decided not to any more, due to varying reasons. We haven't even left yet and people want to reverse it. Maybe they should get a chance in 40 years. Either way British people should support what the democratically referendum result was. If you are unhappy vote at the next election for one of the buffoons I mentioned. That's how it works As said within 40 years Brexit will be reversed. The sooner the better and by 2024 Remain will a comfortable majority and the chaos caused by Brexit can start to be reversed 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simoh1490 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Just now, nauseus said: I'm sorry I can't answer your simplistic question but my tyre is fixed so I feel good today. Stick at the things you're good at, don't deviate from that. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Laughing Gravy Posted March 30, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, Airbagwill said: Yes, we're all backing Britain....... Over a cliff. Democracy is government of the people by the people for the people. It says nothing about mob rule, how they feel on one.particular day or referenda. What astounds me is how simplistic some people are in their lack of understanding of how democracies work. I see it in Thailand, but I never thought I'd see it in places like UK and USA. We haven't been sitting on a bombshell but dumb-shell. Anyone with a modicum of patriotism should be working hard to prevent this Brexit disaster. Hand your passport in if you feel that strongly like other posters are going to get an EU one. How on earth do the USA, Australia, Japan, New Zealand, china and other countries survive without not being part of the EU. Anyone who has any patriotism should be fighting hard to prevent those doom and gloom remoaners, from dragging the UK down. 8 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nauseus Posted March 30, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2018 31 minutes ago, adammike said: We had a referendum in 1975 why have you reversed that one? That question referred to the EEC as a "common market" not the EU as a supranational political project. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airbagwill Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said: Well I am glad your not in my trench. I am under no illusion about what war is. But again some things are worth fighting for and loving and supporting your country use to be a good thing before the lefty, luvvies and tree huggers got their way. now your a racist, far right nut and undemocratic. Well it is utter tosh. Regarding brexit. it is the best thing that has happened to the UK and will show in the long run. The Federalised bullying EU is about control, eroding cultures and imposing their laws on people. Thankfully 52% can see that. "lefty, luvvies and tree huggers" how to immediately nullify any point of view you might have or any hope of being taken seriously? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simoh1490 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, aright said: Remind me1 Is that smaller or greater than 52% The honourable Brexiteer would have us think that's a rhetorical question! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nauseus Posted March 30, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2018 Just now, Airbagwill said: "lefty, luvvies and tree huggers" how to immediately nullify any point of view you might have or any hope of being taken seriously? I took it seriously. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 3 hours ago, soalbundy said: Yes, I am British, no I did not vote I wasn't allowed not having lived in the UK for so long, and a difference of 4 is not sufficient for such an important question that will affect the lives of so many but that was the fault of an incapable government which didn't stipulate what makes up a defining majority. The appalling divisions we are now experiencing are a direct result of an inadequate majority. That is why super majorities are usually required for constitutional issues. With such a close position, people will continue to fight their corner until the bitter end. Some of the most foolish Brexiters invoke disloyalty. IMO, Brexiters are disloyal for damaging the country with such a crap decision. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, aright said: Remind me1 Is that smaller or greater than 52% insignificantly smaller, it may have been a different outcome if someones football team had won or if Joe had a tax rebate, whatever, I'm not there and it won't affect me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, nauseus said: I took it seriously. you would 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airbagwill Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said: Well I am glad your not in my trench. I am under no illusion about what war is. But again some things are worth fighting for and loving and supporting your country use to be a good thing before the lefty, luvvies and tree huggers got their way. now your a racist, far right nut and undemocratic. Well it is utter tosh. Regarding brexit. it is the best thing that has happened to the UK and will show in the long run. The Federalised bullying EU is about control, eroding cultures and imposing their laws on people. Thankfully 52% can see that. "lefty, luvvies and tree huggers" how to immediately nullify any point of view you might have or any hope of being taken seriously? 7 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said: Well I am glad your not in my trench. I am under no illusion about what war is. But again some things are worth fighting for and loving and supporting your country use to be a good thing before the lefty, luvvies and tree huggers got their way. now your a racist, far right nut and undemocratic. Well it is utter tosh. Regarding brexit. it is the best thing that has happened to the UK and will show in the long run. The Federalised bullying EU is about control, eroding cultures and imposing their laws on people. Thankfully 52% can see that. "racist, far right nut and undemocratic." - you do realise though that all those people voted Brexit along with you? Do you really want to be in their gang? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 26 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: I'm not sure it can be said with any certainty that nobody voted for 'chaos', I have read and heard a number of comments from people who didn't think Brexit would improve their own life, but would (in their mind) make life difficult for [***] *** insert 'Bankers', 'The Elite', 'Lefties', 'Lefty Elite', 'Foreigners', 'Immigrants'..etc... What is very clear however is that many Brexit supporters voted for things that we now learn are not going to be delivered. The nation's fishing communities know now that they have been shafted, it turns out that despite Brexit leader denials we don't only need a transit deal, the transit deal is going to drag on for years. The Brexit bonus of cash saved from the EU to be handed to the NHS isn't ever going to happen, the EU is still going to pass laws and regulations that the UK will have to follow (only now no longer having any say in what those laws and regulations are), and free movement is not ending. The list goes on. Leaving the EU is a good start. Nobody knows what else will happen yet. Or did you borrow Meg's crystal ball? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post transam Posted March 30, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2018 So if Hitler got his way back in 1940 and created his own EU would you remoaners side with him...? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post aright Posted March 30, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2018 Just now, nauseus said: Leaving the EU is a good start. Nobody knows what else will happen yet. Or did you borrow Meg's crystal ball? Apparently Simoh did. Meg says the results will be cataclysmic. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 3 hours ago, soalbundy said: That also goes for the employers dissatisfaction with the 'skills' of some school leavers,some of whom are only semi literate. As are many adults including, may I say, a few expats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vogie Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, Grouse said: The appalling divisions we are now experiencing are a direct result of an inadequate majority. That is why super majorities are usually required for constitutional issues. With such a close position, people will continue to fight their corner until the bitter end. Some of the most foolish Brexiters invoke disloyalty. IMO, Brexiters are disloyal for damaging the country with such a crap decision. You are becoming the Black Knight from Monty Pythons Holy Grail. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 1 minute ago, transam said: So if Hitler got his way back in 1940 and created his own EU would you remoaners side with him...? Very possibly if it avoided 50M deaths and his EU had similar laws. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post nauseus Posted March 30, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2018 26 minutes ago, Airbagwill said: Brexiteers, rather than admit the hopelessness of their concept, would prefer to see Britain sink to the level of a cold wet Thailand in world standing and standard of living. It is comforting to realise that by 2024, the simple shift in demographics caused by the increase in young voters and death of the Brxiteers will give a comfortable majority to those who wish to remain. The task then of course will most likely be to renegotiate the UKs entry to the EU. As the demographics indicate, this won't be a problem for many Brexiteers as they will have mostly passed on. Time is on the side of remainers. It took 4 to 5 years to squash the Confederates looks like the Brexiteers have got about the same time too. Morbid thoughts from a morbid brain. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 1 minute ago, vogie said: You are becoming the Black Knight from Monty Pythons Holy Grail. I used exactly the same clip on a related post about Great Yarmouth and UKIP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, aright said: Apparently Simoh did. Meg says the results will be cataclysmic. Well I'll be! Meg usually keeps that ball close to his roll of tape. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talahtnut Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 9 minutes ago, Grouse said: The appalling divisions we are now experiencing are a direct result of an inadequate majority. That is why super majorities are usually required for constitutional issues. With such a close position, people will continue to fight their corner until the bitter end. Some of the most foolish Brexiters invoke disloyalty. IMO, Brexiters are disloyal for damaging the country with such a crap decision. To quote the infamous Grouse, 'Utter nonsense'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post transam Posted March 30, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, Grouse said: Very possibly if it avoided 50M deaths and his EU had similar laws. So you actually believe it would have avoided 50m deaths and the EU NOW has similar laws... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post aright Posted March 30, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2018 17 minutes ago, soalbundy said: insignificantly smaller, it may have been a different outcome if someones football team had won or if Joe had a tax rebate, whatever, I'm not there and it won't affect me. Best scrap the result then and satisfy the 48%minority. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justfine Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 On 28/02/2018 at 10:42 AM, Samui Bodoh said: "...Thanks for outlining the globalist/remainer stance..." Hmm... respectfully, you have not understood my post at all; this is not about whether Brexit is a good idea or not. The UK is undertaking some of the most important negotiations in its entire history, and it seems to be doing so without any consensus on its objectives, without adequate preparation, without people who actually agree with what they are negotiating and without any agreed upon aims and goals. In short they seem to be "winging it". That is a recipe for disaster. A wise man once said, "when you are in a hole, stop digging." Dig sideways so create room for a running start. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
talahtnut Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 15 minutes ago, aright said: Apparently Simoh did. Meg says the results will be cataclysmic. The ball must have been substandard EU model or cracked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justfine Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Brits were world leaders hundreds of years ago. Now they don't know up from down. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post transam Posted March 30, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2018 1 minute ago, Justfine said: Brits were world leaders hundreds of years ago. Now they don't know up from down. If you do a little homework you will find for a very small populous it is still up there... Just look at what our small country is money pumping into the EU to bolster other countries... 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dick dasterdly Posted March 30, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2018 43 minutes ago, soalbundy said: No it's not patriotic, it is realizing that we are all brothers and sisters under the skin. Nothing is worth getting killed for, you and your family get nothing out of it. Shooting someone in war might look good on the Hollywood screen but the person killing has to live with that for the rest of their lives, it is against all natural instinct for the average person to kill. During WW2 it was found by the American army's subsequent investigation that only 25% of front line soldiers actually shot in the general direction of the enemy and only 1% shot to kill. The German army had a name for the reluctance of the average German recruit to kill, it was said they had 'frostbite fingers' ie. a reluctance to pull the trigger. Very true - but 'the ideal' will take centuries/milleniums to achieve. At the moment, cheap labour only advantages the wealthy in more prosperous countries.... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post soalbundy Posted March 30, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, aright said: Best scrap the result then and satisfy the 48%minority. The status quo should have remained, it would have been a good warning to the rest of the EU that things have to change (I fully agree that change is needed) The UK is a valued,if somewhat uncomfortable, partner,especially to such countries as Germany and Holland,perhaps the threat of another referendum two years further on would have helped matters. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justfine Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, transam said: If you do a little homework you will find for a very small populous it is still up there... Just look at what our small country is money pumping into the EU to bolster other countries... 65m isnt small. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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