Car battery life?

[no deal]

On 3/20/2018 at 9:37 AM, Grumpy Duck said:

I am talking about my experience in the usa. A customer was a battery recycling company. There was no cash given for old batteries. A person was charged a core charge if an old battery was not provided. 

yes,about 5 dollars

 

[no deal]

On 3/19/2018 at 3:54 PM, no deal said:

i have to buy a new battery on a new 13 month honda jazz, dealer wont garantie ...

every one know this is not normal, the dealer should replace white no question ask...i paid 750000 tb for the car,also one time i have a flat tire and i install the spear tire at my surprise the rime was damaged on a new car...i told the dealer, they fix the rime white a hamer, very bad work,they should replace to,very bad customer service,and honda i no more good quality.

i never buy a other honda, very stupid!

[no deal]

On 3/19/2018 at 4:07 PM, gamesgplayemail said:

Two years is really too short. It means that you do not use your car everyday or only use it to go to 300m far 7-eleven just like Thai do. It can also be that you buy crap.

 

Where can we buy Panasonic batteries ?

 

 

 

 

 

[no deal]

Just now, no deal said:

 

my car is 18 month old and have 27000km

 

[lvr181]

If I am reading this correctly, although the auto dealer gave no warranty for the battery, what about the battery manufacturer?

 

Was this a "recycled" battery or some backyard manufacturer?

[no deal]

On 3/19/2018 at 12:57 PM, Boon Mee said:

The chief reason most vehicle batteries don't last much beyond two years is the ambient temperature. 

Another reason is the poor workmanship of the batteries. 

You get what you pay for and the most reliable battery comes from your dealership. 

the battery on my 2016 jazz last only 13 month i buy the car new from honda!

[briandavis]

What's the view here? I have a nearing 3 year old Honda BR-V. Newish car, so I always service at Honda, although expensive. BUT, I've just had to replace the car battery for the SECOND time. This is a small, non-maintenance battery - do you call that a 'dry' battery? I've about 70,000 kms on the clock, so nothing excessive and I'm a normal user, mostly school runs. Surely a battery should last longer? I moaned at my local Honda and although just out of the 1 year warranty, they've replaced the latest for free! Pleased with that success. I'm not sure that was to appease a farang in the showroom, or really recognition that the battery is not 'holding up' well and cause for Honda to take up with the manufacturer IF there have been other complaints

[stevenl]

16 minutes ago, briandavis said:

What's the view here? I have a nearing 3 year old Honda BR-V. Newish car, so I always service at Honda, although expensive. BUT, I've just had to replace the car battery for the SECOND time. This is a small, non-maintenance battery - do you call that a 'dry' battery? I've about 70,000 kms on the clock, so nothing excessive and I'm a normal user, mostly school runs. Surely a battery should last longer? I moaned at my local Honda and although just out of the 1 year warranty, they've replaced the latest for free! Pleased with that success. I'm not sure that was to appease a farang in the showroom, or really recognition that the battery is not 'holding up' well and cause for Honda to take up with the manufacturer IF there have been other complaints

Yes, that one is fast.

 

However, school runs sounds like mostly very short distances?

[briandavis]

Actually no, it's a round trip of about 75 kms!

 

[transam]

3 minutes ago, briandavis said:

Actually no, it's a round trip of about 75 kms!

 

Lots involved with battery life.....Just buy a "brand" name like Boliden and see how you get on...????

[HAKAPALITA]

30 minutes ago, briandavis said:

What's the view here? I have a nearing 3 year old Honda BR-V. Newish car, so I always service at Honda, although expensive. BUT, I've just had to replace the car battery for the SECOND time. This is a small, non-maintenance battery - do you call that a 'dry' battery? I've about 70,000 kms on the clock, so nothing excessive and I'm a normal user, mostly school runs. Surely a battery should last longer? I moaned at my local Honda and although just out of the 1 year warranty, they've replaced the latest for free! Pleased with that success. I'm not sure that was to appease a farang in the showroom, or really recognition that the battery is not 'holding up' well and cause for Honda to take up with the manufacturer IF there have been other complaints

Jeez they only little batteries about 1500 Bht, what a fus, buy another one.

[stevenl]

40 minutes ago, briandavis said:

Actually no, it's a round trip of about 75 kms!

 

Hmm, agree with you, you're not getting enough time out of it.

[chingmai331]

Buy Panasonic car battery?  I found a shop in CM selling that brand and if the Panasonic batts sold today are like the one in my old car, then i will surely buy one next time around.  The car now 4 years to me, still with same batt going strong.  Highly recommended. 

 

Shop on Charoen Muang Rd, about 1 km from bridge, on North side of road.

[lvr181]

If you can find one for your vehicle, Yuasa batteries have a good reputation - I've had a number over the years lasting many years.

[johng]

Get the alternator/charging system checked before buying a new battery.

[HAKAPALITA]

53 minutes ago, johng said:

Get the alternator/charging system checked before buying a new battery.

He says its serviced by Honda, they give you a Print Out of Battery State on arrival, then once inside the Workshop the Big Diagnostics thing reports any Charging faults.Ask to watch one day,its educational.

[smccolley]

Folks - the real answer is that heat kills batteries. I ran an auto shop in Phoenix AZ. We sold 5 year warrantee batteries. They never lasted more than 2 years in 40C heat. We just refunded them the difference and got them a new battery. 

 

If anyone knows of a battery that heat doesn't kill - I'd love to know about it. 

[Kwasaki]

Batteries in vehicles discussed like so many times, there are many after market batteries in Thailand which are all good. 

The ones supplied in new cars do not have long life ones in new trucks are usually much better.

[naboo]

I've averaged 3.5 years/battery on my Ford Ranger. Replaced the last one in November. Previously always had GS. I was persuaded to go Panasonic this time (same price, 3250B). Will let you know if I'm happy with it in April 2022.

[chingmai331]

IMO, only the size of the battery holders in the car restrict the size (and power) of the batt.  If you really want a big one, can run fat cables from giant batt in boot to starter etc.

Could ordinary cars use a new batt (lithium ion type) such as found in Tesla cars?

 

[briandavis]

19 hours ago, HAKAPALITA said:

Jeez they only little batteries about 1500 Bht, what a fus, buy another one.

Hardly a fuss, I think. If you're rich or just like throwing money away, up to you!  Honda actually charge 2,000 baht, which would fill up the tank a couple of times. More a principle for me, particularly dealing with a company that has a good reputation, I feel.  If something isn't lasting or working as it should, crazy not to point it out. Maybe it highlights a manufacturing problem? If customers didn't complain, something critical may be missed. How about the discovery of faulty airbags and a vehicle recall for a start?

[VocalNeal]

14 hours ago, smccolley said:

Folks - the real answer is that heat kills batteries. I ran an auto shop in Phoenix AZ. We sold 5 year warrantee batteries. They never lasted more than 2 years in 40C heat. We just refunded them the difference and got them a new battery. 

 

If anyone knows of a battery that heat doesn't kill - I'd love to know about it. 

I'm with this. Just buy a new battery every 2 years and be done with it.

 

Or have a voltmeter installed. When it dips below say 12.6v buy a new battery.

[macahoom]

14 hours ago, smccolley said:

Folks - the real answer is that heat kills batteries. I ran an auto shop in Phoenix AZ. We sold 5 year warrantee batteries. They never lasted more than 2 years in 40C heat. We just refunded them the difference and got them a new battery. 

 

If anyone knows of a battery that heat doesn't kill - I'd love to know about it. 

 

Sorry, but can you explain what you mean by this? "We just refunded them the difference and got them a new battery."

[stevenl]

22 minutes ago, macahoom said:

 

Sorry, but can you explain what you mean by this? "We just refunded them the difference and got them a new battery."

I would presume: say salesprice 10k, guarantee 5 years so per year 2k. Battery lasts 2 years, so 4k of 10k used, refund 6k, but customer has to buy new battery.

Edited January 11, 2019 by stevenl

[Kwasaki]

15 hours ago, smccolley said:

If anyone knows of a battery that heat doesn't kill - I'd love to know about it. 

All the HD GS batteries I have had last more than 5 years.

All the m/c Yuasa batteries I have had last more than 5 years.

[pgrahmm]

1 hour ago, macahoom said:

 

Sorry, but can you explain what you mean by this? "We just refunded them the difference and got them a new battery."

Pro rated warranty.....If a 4 year battery lasts 2 years they pay 50% & manufacturer pays 50%....Customer then has a new 4 year battery.....

[smccolley]

2 hours ago, VocalNeal said:

I'm with this. Just buy a new battery every 2 years and be done with it.

 

Or have a voltmeter installed. When it dips below say 12.6v buy a new battery.

I have an even better way of telling. My Chevy 4x4 has an electronic 4 wheel drive button. When the battery gets low it puts itself in 4 wheel drive when I first start it. Sure fire way to tell the battery is low.

[smccolley]

1 hour ago, pgrahmm said:

Pro rated warranty.....If a 4 year battery lasts 2 years they pay 50% & manufacturer pays 50%....Customer then has a new 4 year battery.....

Yes, that is what I meant. I used to tell the customers they were just renting a battery. With summers being 40C+ every day they never lasted.

[VocalNeal]

3 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

All the HD GS batteries I have had last more than 5 years.

All the m/c Yuasa batteries I have had last more than 5 years.

 

A lot depends on the vehicle and the battery placement. My Suzuki trucks' OEM battery lasted about 5 years. They were manual so when it quit it could be pushed to get started to get back home or to get to a battery shop for a new one. That battery lived under the passenger seat.

 

I read some pickups get better life than others. Ie. Toyota vs Ranger vs Pajero Sport. Some have hood scoops, some do not etc.

 

Batteries are a chemical reaction so temperature does play a part.

 

 

[Kwasaki]

54 minutes ago, VocalNeal said:

 

A lot depends on the vehicle and the battery placement. My Suzuki trucks' OEM battery lasted about 5 years. They were manual so when it quit it could be pushed to get started to get back home or to get to a battery shop for a new one. That battery lived under the passenger seat.

 

I read some pickups get better life than others. Ie. Toyota vs Ranger vs Pajero Sport. Some have hood scoops, some do not etc.

 

Batteries are a chemical reaction so temperature does play a part.

 

 

Yeah I hear what you say and somebody with vehicles on the the road 24-7 could have good experience from battery makes life.

Mine experience is what I have found out for myself.