SURVEY: Should Donald Trump get the Nobel Peace Prize?

[BuriramSam]

2 minutes ago, juice777 said:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/doomsday-clock-2018-live-latest-update-midnight-minutes-trump-tweets-nuclear-war-a8177816.html

 

2 mins to midnight on the Doomsday clock

 

Nobal peace prize my a**e

 

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I have never been a fan of Trump's saber rattling game with Kim Jong Un. But we're all along for the ride anyway. 

[underlordcthulhu]

1 minute ago, 55Jay said:

Didn't do Trump any favors but much of California is moderate to loyal conservative.  San Andreas fault is your next best hope. 

 

 

Haha

Err I have a love hate relationship with that state..

[Hummin]

28 minutes ago, underlordcthulhu said:

Would have done the US a favor had they taken out California.

The 5. Biggest economy in the world? 

[underlordcthulhu]

Just now, Hummin said:

The 5. Biggest economy in the world? 

I would like to refer you to my previous post....

[55Jay]

Just now, BuriramSam said:

I have never been a fan of Trump's saber rattling game with Kim Jong Un. But we're all along for the ride anyway. 

I thought he (Trump) was perfect for that role.  He out trolled the troll!    But did that, and the sanctions, after all this time, finally force Kim into his current behavior?

 

I don't think so. 

 

China

 

 

[PhonThong]

On 5/6/2018 at 12:44 AM, sirineou said:

Regardless of if deserved or not ,and I don't think any serious minded person believe he does.  If they nominated Trump the Nobel organisation would lose all credibility, and I don't believe they are stupid enough to do that. 

  But then again I did not believe Americans were stupid enough to elect him president.......

But, you are probably in full agreement that Obama deserved his? For what? It has even been suggested that awarding the Nobel Prize was a mistake. He did nothing notable in the name of peace.

Per the BBC.

Awarding the Nobel Peace Prize to US President Barack Obama in 2009 failed to achieve what the committee hoped it would, its ex-secretary has said.

Geir Lundestad told the AP news agency that the committee hoped the award would strengthen Mr. Obama.

Instead, the decision was met with criticism in the US. Many argued he had not had any impact worthy of the award.

Mr. Lundestad, writing in his memoir, Secretary of Peace, said even Mr. Obama himself had been surprised.

"No Nobel Peace Prize ever elicited more attention than the 2009 prize to Barack Obama," Mr. Lundestad writes.

"Even many of Obama's supporters believed that the prize was a mistake," he says. "In that sense, the committee didn't achieve what it had hoped for".

 

If Trump achieves Peace on the Korean Peninsula, he totally deserves the prize.

[sammieuk1]

Is there also a bell end prize.

[juice777]

 

 

 

 

But, you are probably in full agreement that Obama deserved his? For what? It has even been suggested that awarding the Nobel Prize was a mistake. He did nothing notable in the name of peace. Per the BBC.

 

Awarding the Nobel Peace Prize to US President Barack Obama in 2009 failed to achieve what the committee hoped it would, its ex-secretary has said.

Geir Lundestad told the AP news agency that the committee hoped the award would strengthen Mr. Obama.

Instead, the decision was met with criticism in the US. Many argued he had not had any impact worthy of the award.

Mr. Lundestad, writing in his memoir, Secretary of Peace, said even Mr. Obama himself had been surprised.

"No Nobel Peace Prize ever elicited more attention than the 2009 prize to Barack Obama," Mr. Lundestad writes.

"Even many of Obama's supporters believed that the prize was a mistake," he says. "In that sense, the committee didn't achieve what it had hoped for".

 

If Trump achieves Peace on the Korean Peninsula, he totally deserves the prize.

 

And the Pulling America out of the Paris Agreement on climate change.

 

How can any man get the peace prize after that?

 

Have you forgotten about that ?

 

I believe even North Korea has signed up to that.

 

And their no peace yet and if it is it will be down to China having a word in there ear saying something on the lines of " This Trump guy is a bigger nutter then you better Disarm because he risking war between China and the USA"

 

Hardley warrants a Nobel peace prize does it risking a Nuclear war.

 

And its all about to kick off between Iran and Isreal if he takes america out of the Iran Deal then what will happen in the middle east?

 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05/06/israeli-pm-better-confront-iran-sooner-later/

 

The Trump supports have clearly lost their senses if they believe he should get a Nobel peace prize.

 

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[juice777]

Is there also a bell end prize.

There would be a few OPs on this Thread who would be in the Running if there was.

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[Slip]

North Korea says denuclearization pledge not result of U.S.-led sanctions

 

SEOUL (Reuters) - North Korea said on Sunday its intention to denuclearize, unveiled at a historic inter-Korean summit, was not the result of U.S.-led sanctions and pressure, warning the United States not to mislead public opinion.

 

The North’s official KCNA news agency said Washington was “misleading public opinion” by claiming the denuclearization pledge was the result of sanctions and other pressure.

 

“This act cannot be construed otherwise than a dangerous attempt to ruin the hardly-won atmosphere of dialogue and bring the situation back to square one,” the spokesman was quoted as saying.

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-southkorea/north-korea-says-denuclearization-pledge-not-result-of-us-led-sanctions-idUSKBN1I703M

[BuriramSam]

1 hour ago, 55Jay said:

I thought he (Trump) was perfect for that role.  He out trolled the troll!    But did that, and the sanctions, after all this time, finally force Kim into his current behavior?

 

I don't think so. 

 

China

 

 

It's hard to say what effect Trump had on Un. However, I will assume the leader of SoKo is smart and his thanks to Trump are for good reason.

[BuriramSam]

9 minutes ago, Slip said:

North Korea says denuclearization pledge not result of U.S.-led sanctions

 

SEOUL (Reuters) - North Korea said on Sunday its intention to denuclearize, unveiled at a historic inter-Korean summit, was not the result of U.S.-led sanctions and pressure, warning the United States not to mislead public opinion.

 

The North’s official KCNA news agency said Washington was “misleading public opinion” by claiming the denuclearization pledge was the result of sanctions and other pressure.

 

“This act cannot be construed otherwise than a dangerous attempt to ruin the hardly-won atmosphere of dialogue and bring the situation back to square one,” the spokesman was quoted as saying.

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-southkorea/north-korea-says-denuclearization-pledge-not-result-of-us-led-sanctions-idUSKBN1I703M

The leader of South Korea says pretty much the opposite. Which person do you agree with? The ally or the communist despot?

Edited May 7, 2018 by BuriramSam
Mistake

[thaikahuna]

9 hours ago, SpeakeasyThai said:

Admit it, you had a major issue dealing with having a black president who has more class in his little finger than trash talking low life Trump could ever dream of.

Color of his skin has nothing to do with it. He was an incompetent POTUS. Class? He has no class either but you please carry on without me as I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed man.

[SpeakeasyThai]

2 hours ago, BuriramSam said:

I'm curious. Does your veiled racism accusation have any basis in reality? I ask because I like to avoid racists. 

A: Yes it certainly does. 

[SpeakeasyThai]

41 minutes ago, thaikahuna said:

Color of his skin has nothing to do with it. He was an incompetent POTUS. Class? He has no class either but you please carry on without me as I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed man.

'unarmed man'... what a peculiar statement. Incoherent as per the current POSUS, who also as per your intellect prefers to  ridicule and belittle. As for Obama being incompetent in your little world,  just not so - methinks you drank too much FOX news.

Edited May 7, 2018 by SpeakeasyThai

[55Jay]

11 minutes ago, BuriramSam said:

It's hard to say what effect Trump had on Un. However, I will assume the leader of SoKo is smart and his thanks to Trump are for good reason.

I think it had some influence but my sense is this was an Asian thing.  KJU wouldn't be inclined to suddenly and randomly roll over and give up to to the USA, and certainly not Donald Trump.

 

Author of this opinion piece clearly doesn't think much of Trump but his take dances in and out of interesting speculation, albeit a few days old now. 

 

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Perhaps Moon was just being polite and deferential in agreeing with Lee, who broached the subject first. Maybe he also felt he needed to get himself into US President Donald Trump’s good books ahead of tough negotiations with the US over trade and security issues. 

After all, as they say, flattery will always get you somewhere, and with this occupant of the White House, everywhere, probably. 

http://www.scmp.com/week-asia/opinion/article/2144530/nobel-peace-prize-us-president-donald-trump-last-thing-world-needs

 

 

[simple1]

On 5/6/2018 at 12:45 PM, notmyself said:

 

Obama got one for doing nothing and Malala got one for being shot so any credibility is long long out the window. 

 

 

 

Incorrect on both counts. Although Obama didn't claim he was justly awarded the NPP, before the next person comments look up the facts on why he was selected for the award. At the very least Obama wasn't a boastful prat like Trump.  Nobel Prize for Trump - god forbid - even more hubis regurigated every day.

[Hummin]

9 hours ago, cat handler said:

Yet he achieved nothing, they can also be launched from submarines.

 

yeah, but that is not Cuba, and USA have Subs hunting USSR Subs, and so on. Anyway, we have lived with missils pointing at us as long I lived, and now I guess they are pointing again, and also started to invade our fjords with their subs again. So we are as far ass we always been. Cold war keeps the business running

[joecoolfrog]

Of course he doesn't .

[mikebike]

2 hours ago, BuriramSam said:

The leader of South Korea says pretty much the opposite. Which person do you agree with? The ally or the communist despot?

The leader of NK. The leader of SK needs to maintain the relationship. NK couldn't care less.

[alocacoc]

North Korea says denuclearization pledge not result of U.S.-led sanctions

  SEOUL (Reuters) - North Korea said on Sunday its intention to denuclearize, unveiled at a historic inter-Korean summit, was not the result of U.S.-led sanctions and pressure, warning the United States not to mislead public opinion.

 

The North’s official KCNA news agency said Washington was “misleading public opinion” by claiming the denuclearization pledge was the result of sanctions and other pressure.

 

“This act cannot be construed otherwise than a dangerous attempt to ruin the hardly-won atmosphere of dialogue and bring the situation back to square one,” the spokesman was quoted as saying.

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-southkorea/north-korea-says-denuclearization-pledge-not-result-of-us-led-sanctions-idUSKBN1I703M

 

Of course he has to say that. Did you nothing learn about Asia? NK is also an Asian country. It's all about face. 

I don't get it anyway why people still quote propaganda media. They were wrong as they said Trump would never be president. They are wrong since 2 years in every way. Don't people recognise that? That's amazing. Every decent company would fire all the journalists and analysts. Either they are plain stupid, or they follow their agenda.

 

And KCNA news agency is now considered as a credible source as long it fits their constructed narrative? Give me a break.

 

Can't wait for midterm elections.

 

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[Slip]

2 hours ago, BuriramSam said:

The leader of South Korea says pretty much the opposite. Which person do you agree with? The ally or the communist despot?

It's a good and fair question, well assuming you mean 'which do I believe'.  I would tend to believe Moon in the first instance, but to be honest Kim is in a better position to comment on his own motivations, so I have no definite answer.

[Slip]

52 minutes ago, alocacoc said:

Of course he has to say that. Did you nothing learn about Asia? NK is also an Asian country. It's all about face. 

I don't get it anyway why people still quote propaganda media. They were wrong as they said Trump would never be president. They are wrong since 2 years in every way. Don't people recognise that? That's amazing. Every decent company would fire all the journalists and analysts. Either they are plain stupid, or they follow their agenda.

 

And KCNA news agency is now considered as a credible source as long it fits their constructed narrative? Give me a break.

 

Can't wait for midterm elections.

 

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Did you not notice that this article was from Reuters?  Simply because you do not agree with the content of an article does not make it propaganda. Reuters are fulfilling their role by reporting what the North Koreans are saying.  If you choose not to believe what they say or feel that it is lies or of no value that is your choice and right.

 

As for the rest of your rant ill-informed rant, please make such posts independently of mine.

 

I can't wait for the mid-terms either.  It will be (hopefully) great to see the corrupt politicians of the GOP get their just desserts.

Edited May 7, 2018 by Slip

[Aj Mick]

On 5/5/2018 at 11:58 PM, lannarebirth said:

No. Let's revisit the topic in a year.

By which time The Donald's presidency could well be over.

[Hummin]

8 minutes ago, Aj Mick said:

By which time The Donald's presidency could well be over.

I would not bet money on it, not even a bitcoin 

[BuriramSam]

1 hour ago, Slip said:

It's a good and fair question, well assuming you mean 'which do I believe'.  I would tend to believe Moon in the first instance, but to be honest Kim is in a better position to comment on his own motivations, so I have no definite answer.

Totally rational answer. I don't disagree with any of it.

[DavisH]

So what role did Trump play in the negotiations between the N and S Korea? I wonder what role Trumps trade war with China has played in this? Have China and N/S Korea decided they should unite against the USA? Trump could well be responsible for uniting the Korea's, but in an inadvertent way. 

[juice777]

North and South Korea will not be United peace maybe.

The south doesn't even want it it would bankrupt them overnight for one thing.

So what role did Trump play in the negotiations between the N and S Korea? I wonder what role Trumps trade war with China has played in this? Have China and N/S Korea decided they should unite against the USA? Trump could well be responsible for uniting the Korea's, but in an inadvertent way. 

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[DrTuner]

I really want Donald to get it. The prize is a joke after Obama got one, so no biggie, but the reactions from the usual suspects would be epic, certainly popcorn-worthy.

[juice777]

Just happened to watch question time on BBC one the first question was on this and no one thought he should.

 

 

 

 

 

Actually it's the first time I have ever seen the panel in agreement.

 

Edit I Just finished watching the whole thing the rest of the Show they were at each other's throats.

 

So I suppose he can bring peace sometimes if they are all in the agreement he shouldn't get the Nobel peace prize.

 

 

 

 

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