Nigeone Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 6 hours ago, evadgib said: Brits generally don't do "Hero" no matter how good or how daring they may have been. A doco on the Penlee lifeboat disaster had me in tears last week... Very true . I'm not expecting to see or hear much from the Brit guys . im sure they reluctantly have to do something probably at the request of Thai officialdom . But I'd guess they would just prefer to just pack there's gear and get back home . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oziex1 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Well it's over now great job by all. The down side is that "Big Joke" is slithering back into the news feed again. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya46 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 The rescue system : from the video there: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brunolem Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Elon Musk blows a gasket! Read on... https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-07-11/elon-musk-launches-bizarre-public-spat-thai-hero-rescue-chief 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khaowong1 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 13 hours ago, kannot said: conform obey...............its "They Live" for real Me thinks the Thai Prime Minister needs a new speech writer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juice777 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 I reckon knowing they're all out is enough for the moment. Wait for the movie if you need drama and excitement. Sad that one of the divers lost his life.I think because They are all football fans Russia should pay for them 2 go to the world Cup Final.That would make a great end to the movie cheering as England win the world cup.Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravip Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Brunolem said: Elon Musk blows a gasket! Read on... https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-07-11/elon-musk-launches-bizarre-public-spat-thai-hero-rescue-chief 'They' do exist 'there' too! Bigotry is Universal - but we fail to accept it. Edited July 11, 2018 by ravip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watso63 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 Fantastic news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamyai3 Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 18 hours ago, dave moir said: Also Thank you to the UK team who were one of the first foreign teams there who were not mentioned in this column and who actually found the boys in the first place! ? big thank you to all involved??? Mentioned early on in 4th paragraph, starting with "British divers found the 13." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Icha Posted July 11, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 11, 2018 We all know that the UK team spearheaded the rescue operation and marveled at their bravery and expertise. But I don’t think those Brits themselves cared at all which country should get the most credit. In fact, they are the ones who called in cave diving specialists from all over the world and the Aussie doctor based on individual quality and not nationality. Funny those posters sticking to this issue. By the way, the operation also required significant logistical coordination to build up the support system and keeping the system alive. Keep supplying air tanks, setting up and adjusting guiding ropes, operating water pumps, keeping track of who went in and doing what, to name a few. I am pleasantly surprised by Thai army and officials’ ability to pull such an enormous coordination task up under time pressure as I gave up on Thais’ ability to plan, organize and coordinate – i.e. getting necessary things done on time with advance planning! Well done! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigeone Posted July 11, 2018 Share Posted July 11, 2018 38 minutes ago, Icha said: We all know that the UK team spearheaded the rescue operation and marveled at their bravery and expertise. But I don’t think those Brits themselves cared at all which country should get the most credit. In fact, they are the ones who called in cave diving specialists from all over the world and the Aussie doctor based on individual quality and not nationality. Funny those posters sticking to this issue. By the way, the operation also required significant logistical coordination to build up the support system and keeping the system alive. Keep supplying air tanks, setting up and adjusting guiding ropes, operating water pumps, keeping track of who went in and doing what, to name a few. I am pleasantly surprised by Thai army and officials’ ability to pull such an enormous coordination task up under time pressure as I gave up on Thais’ ability to plan, organize and coordinate – i.e. getting necessary things done on time with advance planning! Well done! It looks to me like from a very early stage that the Thais just acted and did what was asked to be honest . Fair play if this was the case .maybe a message came from above !? . There was USA logistics experts there along with 3 Brit dive coordinators and Aussie personel at the entrance plus I'm sure other experts . And then it's clear the Expert Cave divers led it would seem by the two Brits with input from all planned the mission . Lots of respect if this is what happened as we all know Thais and I can do that mentality ..Great effort by everyone as well as the hundreds of Thai ordinary folk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudopode Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 On 7/11/2018 at 7:24 AM, jaiyen said: "We are not sure if this is a miracle, science or what" "The mission was successful because we had power, the power of love" "Mission possible for Team Thailand" Pathetic quotes ! It was achieved because of the skill of Team World ! It was no miracle, it was skill and bravery. If left to Thais only, the kids would all have been wearing magic amulets and left in the cave. Still a backward country that believes in ghosts, magic and voodoo. Hope they have learnt a lot from this. Team Thailand??????? Wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overherebc Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 10 hours ago, juice777 said: I think because They are all football fans Russia should pay for them 2 go to the world Cup Final.That would make a great end to the movie cheering as England win the world cup. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk Seems you were a bit soon saying who they would be cheering for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post simon43 Posted July 12, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 12, 2018 We've all read about how British divers were the first to find the boys and their coach. Well, here is another notable British contribution to that rescue effort that few may know about. Underground, mobile phones and 'conventional' radio communication systems simply do not work - the radio signal cannot penetrate the rocks. In this rescue (and in previous rescues worldwide), the rescue divers used a special type of radio-telephone to stay in touch hundreds of metres underground. This radio, called a 'Heyphone', uses very low frequency radio waves that are injected into the ground using metal tent pegs for the surface crew, whilst within the cave, the antenna is strung out on the muddy or water-logged floor. This old but reliable type of cave radio-telephone was designed and built by British radio amateurs and cave diving enthusiasts. As a radio ham and a Brit, I'm proud that this equipment has contributed in it's own small way to the rescue of these kids and their coach. Here's a link if you want to read more about the Heyphone. https://hackaday.com/2018/07/11/ham-designed-gear-used-in-thailand-cave-rescue/ Simon - (Radio ham HS0ZIB in Thailand, XZ2A in Myanmar and G6JFY in the UK) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dufusdonald Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 21 hours ago, Spidey said: The plan was compiled, controlled and primarily executed by the British cave rescue team. I haven't seen any evidence that American divers were involved. Well, we now know this comment is pure nonsense. The new video displays a chart showing that at least 129 divers from at least 17 countries took part in the rescue including at least 14 American divers. Although the Brits may have been the ones who put the plan together. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 (edited) 25 minutes ago, dufusdonald said: Well, we now know this comment is pure nonsense. The new video displays a chart showing that at least 129 divers from at least 17 countries took part in the rescue including at least 14 American divers. Although the Brits may have been the ones who put the plan together. We're talking about the 18 divers who actually extracted the boys. 12 international cave diving experts (at least 6 British) and 6 Thai navy seals. Also, I didn't say that no Americans were amongst the 12, just that I hadn't seen any evidence of it. Edited July 12, 2018 by Spidey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigeone Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 (edited) 29 minutes ago, dufusdonald said: Well, we now know this comment is pure nonsense. The new video displays a chart showing that at least 129 divers from at least 17 countries took part in the rescue including at least 14 American divers. Although the Brits may have been the ones who put the plan together. Link please to chart !? It's been stated on several occasions on the morning of the rescue that a team of 13 expert divers and 5 Thai Navy seals were the rescue party . These apart from a couple of changes remained the same each day The number increased on the last day to include one more diver . 7 of these expert Cave divers were British and a further 3 British experts coordinating from above . It's been mentioned that 1 expert was Finnish and at least 2 Australians leaving 3 who at the moment not sure of nationality Edited July 12, 2018 by Nigeone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dufusdonald Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Spidey said: We're talking about the 18 divers who actually extracted the boys. 12 international cave diving experts (at least 6 British) and 6 Thai navy seals. Also, I didn't say that no Americans were amongst the 12, just that I hadn't seen any evidence of it. Nice try but that wasn't your original quote: "The plan was compiled, controlled and primarily executed by the British cave rescue team. I haven't seen any evidence that American divers were involved." Seems to me "executing" the plan includes anyone who was involved with the extraction. But ok, maybe you misunderstood my question. It appears from the chart that at least 14 American divers were "involved". Anyone involved with the extraction includes the divers who carried the kids out. Anyone who saw that video had to come away in awe with the job these guys did. Edited July 12, 2018 by dufusdonald Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dufusdonald Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 14 minutes ago, Nigeone said: Link please to chart !? It's been stated on several occasions on the morning of the rescue that a team of 13 expert divers and 5 Thai Navy seals were the rescue party . These apart from a couple of changes remained the same each day The number increased on the last day to include one more diver . 7 of these expert Cave divers were British and a further 3 British experts coordinating from above . It's been mentioned that 1 expert was Finnish and at least 2 Australians leaving 3 who at the moment not sure of nationality https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2018/07/11/watch-new-footage-from-thai-authorities-reveals-more-details-on-cave-rescue-mission/?utm_term=.21a99f519576 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, dufusdonald said: Nice try but that wasn't your original quote: "The plan was compiled, controlled and primarily executed by the British cave rescue team. I haven't seen any evidence that American divers were involved." Seems to me "executing" the plan includes anyone who was involved with the extraction. But ok, maybe you misunderstood my question. Maybe you misunderstood my statement, the plan was for 12 international cave diving experts, assisted by 6 Thai navy seals to extract the boys. Apparently, the cave system was restricted to essential personell only whilst the boys were being extracted. Do you really think that in excess of 120 divers most of whom weren't skilled cave divers would have been down there whilst the extraction took place? Edited July 12, 2018 by Spidey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dufusdonald Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Spidey said: Maybe you misunderstood my statement, the plan was for 12 international cave diving experts, assisted by 6 Thai navy seals to extract the boys. Apparently, the cave system was restricted to essential personell only whilst the boys were being extracted. Do you really think that in excess of 120 divers most of whom weren't skilled cave divers would have been down there whilst the extraction took place? You might to look at the video before you comment. Your comment said no American divers took part in the extraction. In fact, you basically said no other divers except the Brits took part in the extraction. Then again maybe it comes down to what your definition of the word "extraction" is. I doubt those tired Brit divers could have carried the boys out after their grueling swim. So it took other divers to complete the "extraction" from the cave walking miles to do so. Yeah, I imagine all 120 or so were in some part of the cave. It probably took all of them to completely "extract" the boys to the ambulances. And if the pumps broke down earlier and the rains came a lot of those guys may have died as they weren't wearing their dive suits with tanks on while the divers were. Just saying let's give some credit here to all those divers which you didn't do earlier. Edited July 12, 2018 by dufusdonald Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigeone Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, dufusdonald said: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2018/07/11/watch-new-footage-from-thai-authorities-reveals-more-details-on-cave-rescue-mission/?utm_term=.21a99f519576 No mention that I can see of 14 American divers !? Is it the right link also the American contingent was predominantly logistical but I believe only 2 divers in the party . Happy to be proved wrong .between 30 to 40 personal quoted I believe Edited July 12, 2018 by Nigeone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post maxcorrigan Posted July 12, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 12, 2018 22 hours ago, poohy said: As its been said elsewhere were i betting man i would have bet heavily against this result Very pleased I am wrong! One last thing though Shouldn't the headline Be HURRAH what the heck is "Hooyah" I think it could be the Thai version of Hooray as they have a problem with the pronouncing the letter "R"just my opinion, before i get shot down of course! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dufusdonald Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Nigeone said: No mention that I can see of 14 American divers !? Is it the right link also the American contingent was predominantly logistical but I believe only 2 divers in the party . Happy to be proved wrong .between 30 to 40 personal quoted I believe You need to look at the video again. There may have been up to over 200 people involved in the actual "extraction" according to the chart including 14 from the UK and 14 from the US. And I may be interpreting the chart completely wrong; however, to suggest the Americans were not part of the "extraction" as the gentleman suggested is incorrect. That was my only point. Many people from many countries involved in the extraction. Edited July 12, 2018 by dufusdonald Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigeone Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 15 minutes ago, dufusdonald said: You need to look at the video again. There may have been up to over 200 people involved in the actual "extraction" according to the chart including 14 from the UK and 14 from the US. And I may be interpreting the chart completely wrong; however, to suggest the Americans were not part of the "extraction" as the gentleman suggested is incorrect. That was my only point. Many people from many countries involved in the extraction. I think the confusion is that 'divers' in this situation is actually bottled up and fully kitted in dive gear . In which case as said there was 13 and 14 on last day plus 5 Thai seals. There was up to 35 I believe now USA personel mainly they were logistics . Yes there was many 'divers' in the caves including a further 35 plus Thai seals but who didn't actually kit up but were involved in the extraction I'm sure along with American service personel . I believe it was a total of 50 international divers but only 14 kitted up with bottles etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterw42 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 43 minutes ago, dufusdonald said: You need to look at the video again. There may have been up to over 200 people involved in the actual "extraction" according to the chart including 14 from the UK and 14 from the US. And I may be interpreting the chart completely wrong; however, to suggest the Americans were not part of the "extraction" as the gentleman suggested is incorrect. That was my only point. Many people from many countries involved in the extraction. The "extraction" was the pointy end of the exercise. For every one diver coming out with a kid, probably equates to 50 other divers making 100s of trips in and out, replacing empty air tanks, food, equipment. At some point during the extraction the divers changed tanks etc and another diver put those tanks in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bprinceuk Posted July 12, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 12, 2018 Team effort, thank you, great job 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravip Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 (edited) @bprinceuk ^^ Fantastic collection of pics. Thank you. Edited July 12, 2018 by ravip 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravip Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Discovery Channel fast-tracks Thai cave rescue documentary Discovery Channel will debut the first documentary feature (of what looks to be the start of many more to come from Hollywood) chronicling the rescue of Thailand’s Wild Boars soccer team from a flooded cave. >>> http://ew.com/tv/2018/07/10/thai-cave-rescue-documentary-discovery-channel/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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