25 minutes ago, Just1Voice said:

Clutching at any straw you can't, aren't you?  Seriously sad. lol

For someone to be unaware of the fact that the man-child's words and deeds facilitate and encourage the loonies to crawl out of the woodwork is beyond sad, it's mentally defective.  

A rabid rite wing trumper to be sure but the real spectacle is trump spewing lies at his rallies to see what will stick I can’t for the life of me see how thease people fall for it 

Cesar Sayoc pizza delivery and living out of a van.

Hard to believe that he had the finances make and mail all the bombs without some support.

2 hours ago, zaphod reborn said:

Never in US history have citizens committed violent acts against opponents of the President, specifically in their support of the President.  Trump has unleashed political violence as the result of his virulent rhetoric.  

I wonder if M. L. King could not be one example? J. Lennon perhaps, in a more indirect way?

1 hour ago, bangsaenguy said:

This guy really drank the kool aid. He has done exactly what Trump has encouraged. This action is Trump's responsibility. Of course, he will blame anyone other than himself. If I closed my eyes and envisioned a typical Trump supporter, this guy would be it. Blindly following the Pied Piper

You have echoed my thoughts exactly. A great post.

I notice that so far (3 pages in), the TVF Trumpeteers have stayed pretty quiet on this thread that exposes the lunatic that silently took his command from Trump, the king of vitriol.

 

I have lifted a few comments from one of the many North American newspapers and posted them here. Great reading relative to the nature of Trump followers.

 

"a confused man who had trouble controlling his emotions."

A cousin of Sayoc, Lenny Altieri, used stronger terms.

"I know the guy is a lunatic,"

Florida voter records show Sayoc first registered in March 2016 as a Republican and cast a ballot in that November's presidential election.

He has been an active Trump supporter, tweeting and posting Facebook videos that appear to show him at the president's rallies.

 

Yes, he is IMHO, a typical Trump supporter.

 

40 minutes ago, lust said:

He looks and sounds Spanish. What a twist.

He isn't though.

2 hours ago, zaphod reborn said:

Already addressed by USPS - the packages were irregular and would have been damaged by the cancel stamp machine.  I don't expect Trump's conspiracy theorist supporters to pay attention to real news souces, as they only view Trump's Fox News, InfoWars and Limbaugh, which only perpetuate conspiracy theories.

why doesn't the U.S. require a passport or DL when mailing a package.  this info could be scanned in and added to the bar code on the package. better yet biometric data?

So was this a double-super-secret false flag? Where Democratic operatives operating out of the basement of Comet Pizza hypnotized this patsy and got him to do their bidding?

 

Blame it on the 'roids?

 

Hard to believe anyone could spend $7,000 on Trump swag.

 

 

 Mail-Bomb Suspect Cesar Sayoc Owned $7,000 Worth of Trump-Branded Clothing: Police Report

 

Mail-bomb suspect Cesar Sayoc Jr. advertised his affinity for President Donald Trump on his white Dodge Ram van—and he also owned $7,000 worth of  Trump-branded clothing. Or so says a 2015 police record in which Sayoc reported that a burglar swiped $45,000 worth of his property from his white Dodge Ram van and a U-Haul trailer while he was working out in a gym in Oakland Park, Fla. An itemized list of the items said Sayoc claimed that 11 pieces of clothing from Trump’s clothing line were taken, along with other apparel and computer equipment. 

 

https://www.thedailybeast.com/mail-bomb-suspect-cesar-sayoc-owned-dollar7000-worth-of-trump-branded-clothing-police-report

1 hour ago, farcanell said:

Seriously?

 

so you haven’t heard trump encouraging the “crooked Hillary” lock her up chanting

 

so you haven’t heard trump attack the media, and encouraging the “ cnn sucks!” Chanting

 

so you haven’t heard him condoning or encouraging violence against reporters... “if you hurt him, don’t worry, I’ll defend you in court”

 

so you haven’t heard.... well... ok... as you like.... but Cesar heard... and Cesar acted.... much like a wind up toy.

 

No No No....they don't have that sort of reporting on Faux News....

 

18 minutes ago, malibukid said:

why doesn't the U.S. require a passport or DL when mailing a package.

 

Obviously, not everyone has a passport or DL. Or even a photo ID.

 

And we have mailboxes everywhere, where you can drop in envelopes and packages with postage.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

22 minutes ago, JestSetter said:

I wonder if M. L. King could not be one example? J. Lennon perhaps, in a more indirect way?

James Earl Ray was a lifelong criminal, a fugitive who had escaped from prison, and a white supremacist.  No political motive.

Mark Chapman said he was angered by Lennon's statement that the Beatles were more popular than Jesus.  Religious motive.

Care for strike three?

3 hours ago, DoctorG said:

Thanks for that. Really interesting with all his tweets etc about the Seminoles. Geez! Hard to believe anything one reads nowadays. 

Here's a rule of thumb:  If you read it on twitter, there's a very good chance it's BS. 

 

The same goes for all "news" on social media.  Use a real news source.

2 hours ago, Emdog said:

I'm waiting for those who said it was some sort of left wing conspiracy to win election (Limbaugh, Fox, etc) to man up and say "We were shamefully wrong and apologize". I've got my ice skates ready in Hell's locker room in anticipation... BTW they are STILL saying this is leftist thing: "Those stickers etc look too new on his van...."

 

The TV 4chan crew are busily rehearsing their lines and getting their stories straight. They’ll be along shortly with their HQ approved quotes and links.

 

The sad thing however is that - as The Donald once said - he could gun down someone on NYC and his fans would go nuts.

 

This isn’t going to hurt him one bit amongst his followers. His followers are up for blood sports - if a guy mowing down protesters didn’t shake their conscious then this sure as hell won’t. A few ‘leftists’ who they would rather see dead anyway is nothing compared to that. 

 

The bigger issue is whether sensible conservatives, Dems and whoever else can figure out a concensus cantidate that doesn’t fragment their collective vote. 

No doubt both Trump and Putin aimed weaponized mind-beams at this patsy and forced the 'right-wing nut-job' to do their bidding.  Just ask CNN.

Off topic posts, and one post with profanity, have been removed.

 

Please stay on topic.

2 hours ago, lust said:

He looks and sounds Spanish. What a twist.

 I am not picking on you Lust , but after reading three pages of this with several mentions on his supposed ancestry.

  what difference does it make what his ancestry was?

4 hours ago, lannarebirth said:

Yeah, I would say there is a lot about this presidency and its followers that is cult like. That said, aside from him being such a patently odious person, not much different than some other recent presidencies.

 How can you put the "odiousness" aside? It defines everything he does. 

Every Presidency , recent or otherwise was Much much different. In fact so much different that before this I could not in my wildest  knightmare imagine this being possible. I am not disappointed of Trump . Trump does what Trump is, I am disappointed and disturbed by the amount of support he gets. 

We have not gotten better over the years we have devolved. 

A failed state. Banana republic. Disgusting. 

6 hours ago, schlog said:

Why didn't the post office stamps the parcels?

May have made a mess of the post office.

Is it to early to respond with a opinion,probably !This whatever is a sick individual!

Does this individual represent PT or supporters for change,  far from it! Would a rational person two weeks before the second most important election spoil it's idol's image or it's cause ! This individual's hatred and how it chose to show it, is inconceivable! 

 

5 hours ago, attrayant said:

Trump will probably trot out the same line he used when two of his radical followers beat a homeless man with a pipe: "My followers are very passionate."

What Trump has done so far is declined to disavow the support of the arrested erstwhile bomber, but that might change as the days pass by.

2 minutes ago, riclag said:

Is it to early to respond with a opinion,probably !This whatever is a sick individual!

Does this individual represent PT or supporters for change,  far from it! Would a rational person two weeks before the second most important election spoil it's idol's image or it's cause ! This individual's hatred and how it chose to show it, is inconceivable!

Distancing Republicans from the bomber probably a good idea right now.

28 minutes ago, welovesundaysatspace said:

A failed state. Banana republic. Disgusting. 

You never know with Florida.

5 minutes ago, riclag said:

Is it to early to respond with a opinion,probably !This whatever is a sick individual!

Does this individual represent PT or supporters for change,  far from it! Would a rational person two weeks before the second most important election spoil it's idol's image or it's cause ! This individual's hatred and how it chose to show it, is inconceivable! 

 

We are all individuals.

 

This particular individual is clearly (by evidence of his social

media activity) a Trump supporter. 

 

The reason you struggle to understand his and his actions is rooted in your refusal to accept Trump’s part in promoting division and hatred.

 

The bomber is not a ‘loan wolf’, he had a leader, his leader is in the White House.

18 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

We are all individuals.

 

This particular individual is clearly (by evidence of his social

media activity) a Trump supporter. 

 

The reason you struggle to understand his and his actions is rooted in your refusal to accept Trump’s part in promoting division and hatred.

 

The bomber is not a ‘loan wolf’, he had a leader, his leader is in the White House.

This judusbomber has a past for acting out, many years before DT  and the call for change came in 2015 

1 hour ago, connda said:

No doubt both Trump and Putin aimed weaponized mind-beams at this patsy and forced the 'right-wing nut-job' to do their bidding.  Just ask CNN.

 

23 minutes ago, riclag said:

Is it to early to respond with a opinion,probably !This whatever is a sick individual!

Does this individual represent PT or supporters for change,  far from it! Would a rational person two weeks before the second most important election spoil it's idol's image or it's cause ! This individual's hatred and how it chose to show it, is inconceivable! 

 

 

18 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

Distancing Republicans from the bomber probably a good idea right now.

Sorry, but if Trump wants to give himself credit for the airline safety record in 2017, which he had nothing to do with, he also has to take responsibility for the insane actions of his more rabid followers.

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/01/02/airline-safety-sets-record-2017-trump-claims-credit/996561001/

14 minutes ago, riclag said:

This judusbomber has a past for acting out, many years before DT  and the call for change came in 2015 

Today he is a MAGAbomber (attested admiration for Trump + real hatred towards Trump's political opponents  turned into political terror) 

It's inconceivable for a follower to want to act out to destroy millions of followers dreams. Sick!

7 minutes ago, riclag said:

It's inconceivable for a follower to want to act out to destroy millions of followers dreams. Sick!

So your problem with the #MAGABomer is not that he tried to

kill people nor is it what

motivated him.

People keep insinuating that it is Trump's rhetoric that is making the right wing angry. I can assure you, it is the left making them angry. The list of reasons is endless, but it all boils down to the deconstruction of America and everything that contributed to a wonderful quality of life. Forcing moral people into an unnatural society is a recipe for depression and mental illness. Threatening peoples borders makes people want to defend their land. And on and on it goes.