The New Skytrain (continued for 2019)

[FarangryBirds]

Any word on whether eastern extension will combine with the normal green route? Or will I have to keep transferring trains at Samrong?
 
I remember something about the "extension line" only lasting until April.

I think the transfer at Samrong was only needed during this free trial period, which as you say is due to finish after this month.

I travelled on the extension yesterday and noted there were more of the newer style trains running. Previously I only saw one. I guess the rest of their shipment from Turkey has finally arrived. Them having enough rolling stock to fulfill Mo Chit - Kheha as one seamless line is key.

[Crossy]

16 hours ago, tom in bangkok said:

Any word on whether eastern extension will combine with the normal green route? Or will I have to keep transferring trains at Samrong?

 

I remember something about the "extension line" only lasting until April.

 

Free running has apparently been extended, not sure exactly how long for yet.

 

The transfer arrangements will likely continue at least until then.

 

[CLW]

Any news regarding Mangmoom card and / or a card to pay in the busses.

Today in one of the new blue BMTA bussss I was surprised to see a conductor with a mobile device that uses contact less credit cards and QR code to pay for your ticket.
Has the other solution with terminals to check in/out completely abandoned?

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[Nyezhov]

Is there a map of the extension from Chinatowin into Thonburi, I get confused for some reason mapping it out?

[ExpatOilWorker]

13 hours ago, Nyezhov said:

Is there a map of the extension from Chinatowin into Thonburi, I get confused for some reason mapping it out?

[Thongkorn]

We live near Pak Nam, the land prices are going through the roof, Because now people can camute into Bangkok, 

[sidgy]

Do you know how this map relates to actual roads, ie I am interested where the stations will be on the purple line at the southern end, I am assuming it will be on the SukSawad road but only guessing. If you know could you enlighten me please


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[ballpoint]

4 hours ago, sidgy said:

Do you know how this map relates to actual roads, ie I am interested where the stations will be on the purple line at the southern end, I am assuming it will be on the SukSawad road but only guessing. If you know could you enlighten me please


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From the MRTA website for the Purple Line from Bang Yai - Rat Burana (but not saying where each station will be).

 

The project starts from Bang Yai, the northwestern area of Bangkok , then goes downward crossing the Chao Phraya River at Phranang- Klao Bridge and goes along Ratana Thibed Road to Nonthaburi Intersection and Wongsawang Intersection. The route then runs along Pracharat Road to Taopoon Intersection, turns right and turns left to Samsen Road, passing the National Library, Bang Lumpu, Ratanakosin Island and crosses Chao Phraya River at to Phra Pok Klao Bridge to Thonburi side. Here, the alignment runs southward along Tak Sin Road , passing Wong Wian Yai to Mahai Sawan Intersection. At this point, the line changes again into elevated structure and runs along Tak Sin Road and Suk Sawat Road . Finally, the line terminates near Bang Na - Dao Kanong Expressway with a total length of 40.0 km.

 

So, south of the river probably looks something like this:

[Sir Greg]

I made this map on Google Maps Engine that overlays the lines with their actual routes. It's fairly up to date, near as I can tell.

 

More info here if you're curious. 

[sidgy]

I made this map on Google Maps Engine that overlays the lines with their actual routes. It's fairly up to date, near as I can tell.

 

More info here if you're curious. 

Very good, I can only imagine the time and effort you have put into this. I note you have the purple line following Rat Burana road as opposed to Suk Sawat, Is this a definite? My wife seems pretty adamant it will follow Suk Sawat

 

 

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[burner2014]

Does anyone know when this light green one is built or planned to be built?

[ExpatOilWorker]

On 4/29/2019 at 12:01 PM, Sir Greg said:

I made this map on Google Maps Engine that overlays the lines with their actual routes. It's fairly up to date, near as I can tell.

 

More info here if you're curious. 

Apart from the spelling of the "Gray" line, the route is also somewhat wrong. The dark grey line will terminate at Thonglor and the light grey line is somewhere further out in the future.

[ballpoint]

On ‎4‎/‎29‎/‎2019 at 1:33 PM, sidgy said:

Very good, I can only imagine the time and effort you have put into this. I note you have the purple line following Rat Burana road as opposed to Suk Sawat, Is this a definite? My wife seems pretty adamant it will follow Suk Sawat

 

 

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The MRTA website clearly says it will follow Suk Sawat, and I have since found this map in a Bangkok Expressway and Metro (BEM) presentation showing the same, though, coming from a pdf of a Powerpoint presentation, it's not the best resolution.  A decent one must be available somewhere.

[ballpoint]

Another map from the presentation, showing existing lines and those currently under construction.

[sidgy]

The MRTA website clearly says it will follow Suk Sawat, and I have since found this map in a Bangkok Expressway and Metro (BEM) presentation showing the same, though, coming from a pdf of a Powerpoint presentation, it's not the best resolution.  A decent one must be available somewhere.

Thank you Ballpoint. Your time and trouble taken is much appreciated


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[notasmartassknowitallfarag]

Lots of new trains rolling out with half the seat capacity. Makes sense for short journeys but for longer ones it’s a pain. 

 

How about extra carriages or more frequent trains. 

 

The amount of people using this service....where are all the new profits going? ( apart from trains with no seats) 

[FarangryBirds]

When I used it today, it was a nice surprise being able to ride from Asok to Paknam without changing trains at Samrong.

As far as I could see from my Line Pay, still free to ride between Samrong to Kheha.

[burner2014]

On 5/17/2019 at 5:13 PM, FarangryBirds said:

When I used it today, it was a nice surprise being able to ride from Asok to Paknam without changing trains at Samrong.

As far as I could see from my Line Pay, still free to ride between Samrong to Kheha.

Took it from Asoke to Samut Prakan Immigration. Pleasant drive, avoid the car traffic.

I had maybe 5 people driving with me in one train. Still super unused, but I expect more and more to come along the line e.g. condos and malls in the near future which will drive people into the trains.

 

I didn't mind these half seated trains, but let's see when they are full.

[lamyai3]

On 5/17/2019 at 5:13 PM, FarangryBirds said:

When I used it today, it was a nice surprise being able to ride from Asok to Paknam without changing trains at Samrong.

Paknam makes for a pleasant little excursion, but one thing really baffled me about the place is the inordinate number of barber and hairdresser shops there. Must have seen more than 20 around the streets there. 

[Lakegeneve]

On 5/2/2019 at 2:36 PM, burner2014 said:

Does anyone know when this light green one is built or planned to be built?

When the BTS ext from On Nut to Bearing opened in August 2011 (2 years late due to a BMA official being scared to issue the S&E tender), provision was made for a spur line to run down Bang Na-Trat rd to the airport. You'll see the viaduct widen after Udom Suk and a little before the intersection - actually right at suk soi 103/4 where the huge block of land is for the future "largest shopping center in asia" and just adjacent where the new Eastern Bus terminal will be located.

 

This spur line was never part of the original BTS expansion plans nor the original M-Map Master plan, but was added as an idea by the BMA around 2006/7 to cater for the future T3 at the airport and provide an alternate route for the then yet to be built ARL. M-Map has since been updated in 2017, but still does not include this line.

 

Subsequently, Samak Prakan City Hall proposed to OTP in MOT that it be a light rail line. However, they also had the idea 3 years ago to build a LRL providing a link from City Hall up Srinakarin rd to Bang NaTrat then east so they need to resolve these two ideas. Currently, we need a bunch of lines and exts (Purple South, Blue west, Orange west, Brown line, BTS Silom west est) to progress to tendering before this line is resolved.

 

Someone asked me a few years in the previous thread when this will be built. At the time, I suggest not until after 2023-2025 at the earliest but now the latter date is more plausible. The delays with construction of T2 and with T3 not even being approved also delay this line as it will essentially run to T3 and the APM that will be built linking the terminals. That's not to say a line along the Bang Na - Trat corridor is not currently needed, only that there are other pieces of the network that need to be in place first.

[Lakegeneve]

1 hour ago, lamyai3 said:

Paknam makes for a pleasant little excursion, but one thing really baffled me about the place is the inordinate number of barber and hairdresser shops there. Must have seen more than 20 around the streets there. 

As the local saying goes, "Samut Prakan province is a cut above the rest!"

[Lakegeneve]

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Progress of civil works for lines currently under construction (as of 30 Sept);

1) MRT Blue Line ext: 100% - S&E installation: 61%
2) BTS Northern ext: 79%
3) MRT Orange Line: 18.33%
4) MRT Pink line: 10.57% and
5) MRT Yellow line: 9.61%
6) SRT Dark Red Line: 97.94%
7) Tinky toy 2.2km Gold Line: approx 7%

I haven't posted a general update on all planned lines for a long time as it seemed prudent to wait until there was clarification on the new govt front. There's still ongoing delays with the next batch of lines/exts which were due to be tendered in late 2017. By the time, they are tendered in the 2nd half of 2019 it will be a total 2 year delay! I'll do the general update soon, but you can refresh your memories with the last one....

 

However, for now here is a quick update regarding current construction and the 3 dates for the Blue Line ext openings. 

 

1) Progress of civil works for lines currently under construction (as of 30 March)
1) MRT Blue Line ext: 100% - S&E installation: 79%
2) BTS Northern ext: 99.42%
3) MRT Orange Line: 32.12%
4) MRT Pink line: 32.12% and
5) MRT Yellow line: 30.40%
6) SRT Dark Red Line: 100%
7) Tinky toy 2.2km Gold Line: approx 35% est

2) MRT Blue Line ext openings - trial runs in July
Phase 1: 12 August - Hualumphong to Tha Pra,
Phase 2: 30 (TBC) September - Tha Pra to Lak Song
Phase 3: March 2020 - Tao Poon to Tha Pra

 

Note: the original opening date when construction first started in mid 2011 was early 2016!

Of the 35 new trains that BEM has ordered, 9 have been delivered, 10 more will arrive by Sept and the last 16 by March 2020.

[Lakegeneve]

On 4/28/2019 at 4:32 PM, sidgy said:

Do you know how this map relates to actual roads, ie I am interested where the stations will be on the purple line at the southern end, I am assuming it will be on the SukSawad road but only guessing. If you know could you enlighten me please


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The MRTA's route video which was done a few years ago provides you with a decent overview of the route,

https://www.mrta.co.th/media/454464/ว-ด-ท-ศน-ม-วงใต-_170560.mp4

 

The route is as follows (the MRTA did previously have a purple line website  www.mrta-purpleline.com but forgot to extend it - pun intended!);

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The route of the Purple Line Skytrain Project, Tao Poon-Ratburana Range (Kanchanaphisek Ring Road), starting from the connecting point of the metro project Chalong Rattham Line At Tao Poon Station Is an elevated road along the D road 8 Crossing the Bang Sue Canal By transforming into an underground structure under the Army Ordnance Department Turn right onto Military Road. Through Kaekai junction Enter Samsen Road Through the new parliament building (Yothin Burana School), Queen School, Royal Irrigation Department, Vajira Hospital National Library, Banglamphu Canal, turn left onto Phra Sumen Road Through Bowon Niwet Ratchaworawihan Temple Ratchadamnoen Klang Road Pass through Fa Lilat Enter Mahachai Road Through Ratchanaddaram Temple, Worawihan Enter the Chakrapet Road Passing under the Chao Phraya River at Phra Pokklao Bridge Entering Prachathipok Road Through the guest house intersection Under the big roundabout Entering Somdet Phra Chao Taksin Road Through Somdet Phra Pinklao Hospital Passing under the Maha Sawan intersection After that, the route will change to a elevated structure running along the middle of Suksawat Road. Through Dao Khanong Intersection Across the bridge over Rama 2 intersection, passing Prachauthit Intersection. Crossing the Chalerm Mahanakorn Expressway, Bhumibol Bridge 1, passing Phra Pradaeng intersection and ending at Khru in

 

The Purple southern extension should (fingers crossed) be tendered in the 3rd quarter of 2019 as it was ready to be tendered in late 2017, but the govt referred it for a PPP along with the Orange line ext. and we subsequently ended up with a 2 year delay! So it that happens it will be done by the end of 2025 accounting for the usual delays. (Should have been 2022). Also, one issued that I have previously canvassed in the old thread;

 

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Once the MRT Purple line southern ext is done to Rat Burana and the MRT Yellow line is completed to Samrong, the expectation is that one of these lines will be extended across the river and along Puchao Saming rd to provide a southern cross river connection.

 

I'd hazard a guess that it will eventually be the Purple line that is extended to Samrong. (Which will highlights one of the long term follies of changing the Yellow line from heavy rail to mono rail - it limits future network interoperablity and expansion.)

 

Edited June 7, 2019 by Lakegeneve

[CLW]

22 hours ago, Lakegeneve said:

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Progress of civil works for lines currently under construction (as of 30 Sept);

1) MRT Blue Line ext: 100% - S&E installation: 61%
2) BTS Northern ext: 79%
3) MRT Orange Line: 18.33%
4) MRT Pink line: 10.57% and
5) MRT Yellow line: 9.61%
6) SRT Dark Red Line: 97.94%
7) Tinky toy 2.2km Gold Line: approx 7%

Any information about opening of the SRT dark red line?

[Crossy]

Current BTS North extension dates.

• N9 (Central Lad Prao) opening August 12th this year (my understanding is that it will be free initially).
• N10-N13 opening December this year.
• Rest of the extension opening December 2020.

 

[Lakegeneve]

On 6/7/2019 at 6:56 PM, CLW said:

Any information about opening of the SRT dark red line?

October 2020 is the current date (it was previously 1st quarter 2021). However, that depends on two external factors; delivery of the rolling stock which the SRT ordered late and completion of the new Bang Sue Terminal.

 

When construction finally commenced in mid 2013 after a 2.5 yr contractual delay, it was said that it would be open by late 2016. The delay is huge in that context. Not to forget that the 15km SRT Light Red line was built from in less than 3 yrs (Jan 2010 to Sept 2012). 

 

The 10km ext from Rangsit to Thammasat Uni was approved in 2017 and was due to be tendered late last year so hopefully this will be done in the post election period. The 11km 1st part of the southern ext from Bang Sue to Hua lumphong was approved a few years ago. However, this will have to wait while the designs for the Eastern HSR line was finalised as the first section will be from DMK to Phaya Thai to link with the ARL. 

 

The whole SRT Dark Red line will eventually be some 87kms long when completed some time next century!

[CLW]

Current BTS North extension dates.

• N9 (Central Lad Prao) opening August 12th this year (my understanding is that it will be free initially).
• N10-N13 opening December this year.
• Rest of the extension opening December 2020.

 

So if I count correctly, N13 is Kasetsart University?
Thank God, finally getting there without traffic jam...

[CLW]

October 2020 is the current date (it was previously 1st quarter 2021). However, that depends on two external factors; delivery of the rolling stock which the SRT ordered late and completion of the new Bang Sue Terminal.
 
When construction finally commenced in mid 2013 after a 2.5 yr contractual delay, it was said that it would be open by late 2016. The delay is huge in that context. Not to forget that the 15km SRT Light Red line was built from in less than 3 yrs (Jan 2010 to Sept 2012). 
 
The 10km ext from Rangsit to Thammasat Uni was approved in 2017 and was due to be tendered late last year so hopefully this will be done in the post election period. The 11km 1st part of the southern ext from Bang Sue to Hua lumphong was approved a few years ago. However, this will have to wait while the designs for the Eastern HSR line was finalised as the first section will be from DMK to Phaya Thai to link with the ARL. 
 
The whole SRT Dark Red line will eventually be some 87kms long when completed some time next century!

That sounds like a never ending story. I can remember some stations have been completed at least 7 years ago if I remember correctly. I passed them with the regular SRT train to the south

[Crossy]

15 hours ago, CLW said:

So if I count correctly, N13 is Kasetsart University?
Thank God, finally getting there without traffic jam...

 

It is indeed ????

 

[ExpatOilWorker]

18 hours ago, Lakegeneve said:

October 2020 is the current date (it was previously 1st quarter 2021). However, that depends on two external factors; delivery of the rolling stock which the SRT ordered late and completion of the new Bang Sue Terminal.

 

When construction finally commenced in mid 2013 after a 2.5 yr contractual delay, it was said that it would be open by late 2016. The delay is huge in that context. Not to forget that the 15km SRT Light Red line was built from in less than 3 yrs (Jan 2010 to Sept 2012). 

 

The 10km ext from Rangsit to Thammasat Uni was approved in 2017 and was due to be tendered late last year so hopefully this will be done in the post election period. The 11km 1st part of the southern ext from Bang Sue to Hua lumphong was approved a few years ago. However, this will have to wait while the designs for the Eastern HSR line was finalised as the first section will be from DMK to Phaya Thai to link with the ARL. 

 

The whole SRT Dark Red line will eventually be some 87kms long when completed some time next century!

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