SURVEY: Trump -- Will his presidency end soon?

[Jingthing]

As I said before, I don't know.

It would be arrogant to pretend that you do. 

The presidency of Individual-1 is not like any other presidency in American history.

Even Nixon is not a precedent to this president.

Even Bob Woodward admits he doesn't know either.

 

http://www.cc.com/video-clips/6kuc4f/the-daily-show-with-trevor-noah-bob-woodward----fear--in-america---president-trump-s-war-on-truth---extended-interview

[Guest Jerry787]

lets hope he doesn't get re elected.
it no means there will be a better president, indeed Trump presidency its the worst US ever had

[scorecard]

2 hours ago, roobaa01 said:

coz he is successfull lately make china bow.

exposing obamacare as unconstitutional

exposing tax money waster mueller as illegally acting investigator see michael flynn fbi set up

exposing clinton as corrupt thrift scandal and foundation

exposing dems to be talking heads and simple minds

wbr

roobaa01.

 

'...made China bow...' 

What are you smoking?

[Hummin]

1 hour ago, TopDeadSenter said:

 He will win a second term. It is easy to mistake a biased media that are desperate to unseat Trump as the popular feeling. But that would be a huge error. Most Americans I know that are politically savvy are firm supporters of Trump, even though they tell me they are not always free to express themselves. I expect after 6 more years he will have fixed the inherent bias in the education system and sorted out the media making them more accountable, which should go a long way to improving sane politics going forward. Hopefully.

The sad truth, and prove you cannot fight stupid over stupidity!

 

It also prove the democratic systems fouls, even when there is clear fails in the election and also the truth the president execute. 

 

First of all glad Im not american

Edited December 16, 2018 by Hummin

[mtls2005]

14 minutes ago, shootsLeft said:

Trumps oval office desk is bolted to the floor until Jan 2025, now u know.

 

Well, it is called the "Resolute Desk" for a reason.

 

Pretty sure it belongs to the people. 

 

Now if you meant he was bolted to the floor that might make sense?

 

trump's desk would be cheap, gaudy, gilded, tacky rococo style.

 

 

[Hanuman2547]

31 minutes ago, jesimps said:

I personally think that it's because there are a lot of US minorities here and they are normally very far to the left.

Huh?  If anything there are very few US minorities here in Thailand.  It is most dominated by white males.

[Srinivas]

If you follow only mainstream anti President Trump media, I can understand how some here come to the conclusion that President Trump is done, stick a fork in him etc. Here is 3 min recap of reporting from early 2017

 

[Jingthing]

6 minutes ago, Hanuman2547 said:

Huh?  If anything there are very few US minorities here in Thailand.  It is most dominated by white males.

I find the Americans in Pattaya tend to be more right wing leaning, and yes, overwhelmingly older white men. Of course the gay ones are more left wing leaning. I don't think random bunches of Americans abroad tells us anything about the political situation in the USA. To add, I recently read only about 2 percent of American expats vote though I doubt that includes active military.

Edited December 16, 2018 by Jingthing

[GalaxyMan]

He'll resign 10 minutes before he has no choice, for whatever reason, having first pardoned his kids, et al. Pence will become president and then pardon Trump, probably quoting Jerry Ford in the process, national healing, reconciliation, whatever. He'll spend the rest of his life in court, watching his 'fortune' whittled away by lawyers, and very possibly jailed for any (take your pick) of his numerous 'shortcuts'. It'll be great theater. Hopefully he and his ilk haven't done too much irreparable damage, though I'm not all that hopeful.

[Fairynuff]

1 hour ago, stevenl said:

Unfortunately I don't see his base starting to wash away.

Too many blatent racists and bigots present.

You’re talking about this forum right?

[Hummin]

17 minutes ago, Srinivas said:

If you follow only mainstream anti President Trump media, I can understand how some here come to the conclusion that President Trump is done, stick a fork in him etc. Here is 3 min recap of reporting from early 2017

 

What more you need to open your eyes, that the president is what you see, and thats what you get? What is wrong with people, thats what I wonder, who believe anything is good with Donald!

 

 

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, Hummin said:

What more you need to open your eyes, that the president is what you see, and thats what you get? What is wrong with people, thats what I wonder, who believe anything is good with Donald!

 

 

I beg to differ. He's an incredibly great con man demagogue and the bigliest twitter troll in history. It's hard to imagine anyone will ever beat him in that department. Then with the lies. Also top marks for that.

[Chomper Higgot]

15 minutes ago, GalaxyMan said:

He'll resign 10 minutes before he has no choice, for whatever reason, having first pardoned his kids, et al. Pence will become president and then pardon Trump, probably quoting Jerry Ford in the process, national healing, reconciliation, whatever. He'll spend the rest of his life in court, watching his 'fortune' whittled away by lawyers, and very possibly jailed for any (take your pick) of his numerous 'shortcuts'. It'll be great theater. Hopefully he and his ilk haven't done too much irreparable damage, though I'm not all that hopeful.

The indications are Pence is being investigated as a co-conspirator in Trump’s crimes through the period from his campaign to the present day.

 

A pardon of a co-conspirator is highly unlikely and open to legal challenge if attempted.

 

My punt, Pence will resign before Trump.

[Jingthing]

18 minutes ago, GalaxyMan said:

He'll resign 10 minutes before he has no choice, for whatever reason, having first pardoned his kids, et al. Pence will become president and then pardon Trump, probably quoting Jerry Ford in the process, national healing, reconciliation, whatever. He'll spend the rest of his life in court, watching his 'fortune' whittled away by lawyers, and very possibly jailed for any (take your pick) of his numerous 'shortcuts'. It'll be great theater. Hopefully he and his ilk haven't done too much irreparable damage, though I'm not all that hopeful.

Well again I don't know, but I presume if it gets as far as house impeachment with a likelihood of senate conviction, I agree that he would probably resign before actually being convicted. In any case you can bet that he would try to spin such a deserved humiliation as a big win and his fans would eat that up. What they see in that criminal clown I will never comprehend. 

Edited December 16, 2018 by Jingthing

[GalaxyMan]

8 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Well again I don't know, but I presume if it gets as far as house impeachment with a likelihood of senate conviction, I agree that he would probably resign before actually being convicted. In any case you can bet that he would try to spin such a deserved humiliation as a big win and his fans would eat that up. What they see in that criminal clown I will never comprehend. 

I see zero chance of a Senate conviction absent one big smoking gun, like a picture of Trump and Putin in a 69...

[Jingthing]

3 minutes ago, GalaxyMan said:

I see zero chance of a Senate conviction absent one big smoking gun, like a picture of Trump and Putin in a 69...

Now, yes. But more stuff is coming. Possibly much more stuff. Which is again why I can't say yet because nobody knows what that stuff is, except for Mueller. 

Why would enough senate republicans bail on him?

To save their own political asses of course. Not about patriotism or morality. Which simply means there needs to be overwhelming bipartisan feeling in the public that Individual-1 has got to go. 

Edited December 16, 2018 by Jingthing

[natway09]

I hope not. If this is the best they can find "God Help America"

[stevenl]

35 minutes ago, Fairynuff said:

You’re talking about this forum right?

The forum is just a reflection of society, albeit not accurate.

[Jingthing]

4 minutes ago, stevenl said:

The forum is just a reflection of society, albeit not accurate.

True that and of course any poll results here are totally unscientific. But for whatever it's worth a strong majority so far are saying Individual-1 will last only one term or less. 

Yes if he does leave earlier than one term, expect dancing in the streets!

Edited December 16, 2018 by Jingthing

[meechai]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

As I said before, I don't know.

It would be arrogant to pretend that you do.

Do you mean arrogant like those who kept saying get use to saying madame president??

Well then, I guess you can teach old dogs new tricks

But they still cant hunt ????

Edited December 16, 2018 by meechai

[Srinivas]

1 hour ago, stevenl said:

Unfortunately I don't see his base starting to wash away.

Too many blatent racists and bigots present.

Racists,and bigots?

 

[Jingthing]

17 minutes ago, meechai said:

Do you mean arrogant like those who kept saying get use to saying madame president??

Well then, I guess you can teach old dogs new tricks

But they still cant hunt ????

Whatever, dude,

The fact that Individual-1 won was a black swan of incredible proportions.

 

Quote

 

The Black Swan President

Donald Trump is the biggest unknown ever to take control of the White House.

 

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/11/donald-trump-president-white-house-policy-black-swan-214450

The polls predicted Ms. Clinton would win the popular vote by a similar margin to what she actually did. Individual-1 won based on a tiny margin of about 70,000 votes in only four states. It was totally rational to assume Ms. Clinton would have won that contest but we should learn that some chance which Individual-1 had is not the same as no chance. 

To add, in the view of many including myself Individual-1 is legally the president but has emerged as an ILLEGITIMATE president. He should be impeached and convicted. That doesn't mean he will be though. 

I also think it's quite possible that he will be reelected. Horribly tragic but still definitely possible. 

 

Edited December 16, 2018 by Jingthing

[meechai]

11 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

an ILLEGITIMATE president

Illegitimate =  "not authorized by the law; not in accordance with accepted standards or rules"

 

So your wrong ..again

 

Quote

"He should be"

Shoulda,woulda,coulda  I am guessing the illegitimate madame president often cries the same ????

[allexx]

Trump is the best president since Ronald R.

[Jingthing]

1 minute ago, meechai said:

Illegitimate =  "not authorized by the law; not in accordance with accepted standards or rules"

 

So your wrong ..again

 

Shoulda,woulda,coulda  I am guessing the illegitimate madame president often cries the same ????

Not wrong. It's my opinion. Based on the FACTS that we now know that he obtained the office based on FRAUD. 

Edited December 16, 2018 by Jingthing

[Jingthing]

Just now, stevenl said:

your or you're?

Better not correct with mistakes.

Why bother? We know Individual-1 has it's unshakable hard core base. Some of them post here. They aren't big enough to stop this process if what's to be revealed is serious enough. 

[otherstuff1957]

It all depends on the economy.  If the US economy continues to have low unemployment and if the cost of living doesn't increase to the point that it is noticeable for a majority of Americans, he has a good chance of being reelected.  After all, to quote a much better president than Trump: "It's the Economy stupid".

 

However, this is the longest period of uninterrupted growth that the US has had in recent history.  We are overdue for a 'correction', which will adversely affect people's perception of his leadership.

Edited December 16, 2018 by otherstuff1957

[wwest5829]

I think it will be the legal issues that will make his continuing to serve untenable. The Judicial Branch of government is not subject to either the Executive nor the Legislative Branch of government. My prediction is, in the end Individual #1 will say he is forced to resign the Presidency due to health or business concerns. I will not dwell or his statement as to the reason of his resignation. History has already documented the record up to this point. The only reason he is in the position is that the vast majority of citizens were presented with no viable choice. The vast majority either voted for someone else or did not vote. I understand the justified frustration/anger in the working middle class "I'll fix it" was not the way to go.

Edited December 16, 2018 by wwest5829

[Thingamabob]

He will win big in 2020. 

[Chomper Higgot]

The mere fact Trump’s Impeachment/resignation/indictment/imprisonment is being widely discuses should give even his most ardent supporters pause for thought.