6 killed, 50 injured after bus overturns in Pathum Thani

[mike787]

I just commented on this nonsense already...HERE WE GO AGAIN!!!  This will simply NOT END!  Tomorrow another repeat incident, and so it goes.  So sad for the innocent...

[Surasak]

22 hours ago, Phuketshrew said:

The carnage continues. I thought that they were going to take all those double-decker death traps off the road?

They work perfectly well in other countries. The only reason they are death traps in Thailand, is the maniacs behind the wheel.

[twizzian]

I’ve not traveled in a minivan for at least five years, I’ll probably not set foot in a tour bus either now, as these untrained big bus numpties seem to have the same zero skill level these days as the van drivers.

[JimmyJ]

21 hours ago, puukao said:

Question:  You are on a bus, it starts raining hard and you know it's a little dangerous since the driver is speeding......

 

Do you get off at the next stop, regardless of time??

 

Next time I just might......

 

 

Definitely.

 

I would as politely as possible ask the driver to slow down which I realize all here will tell me is doomed to failure.

And if he didn't I'd get off as soon as possible.

 

I was in Krabi this summer. I'd taken a van (which I had told myself I would never take) from the airport to my hotel at Aonang Beach.

 

It was about 30 minutes in a totally jammed van during a sunny day, and it went well, which I guess lulled my judgement temporarily.

 

 

After a few days there I reserved a hotel room on Koh Lanta for a few days, and a van ride for the next day to leave in the afternoon, so it would be getting dark while traveling.

Then a heavy downpour began, and I rethought my plans for the next day.

 

I was able to get a refund for the next day's van ride, and sacrificed my upfront payment for the Koh Lanta resort.

 

And never went there - decided I'd do it at some time in the future when I feel secure enough to rent a car and drive myself.

Edited January 7, 2019 by JimmyJ

[Emdog]

noticed name of bus company "Prayattour"... pray at tour? Pray at bus, or driver, or whatever you hope might work (It won't....)

[BRADS]

they dont know the meaning of Travel To Conditions.    RIP 

[lvr181]

22 hours ago, Phuketshrew said:

The carnage continues. I thought that they were going to take all those double-decker death traps off the road?

Really?? You believe what Thai authorities say?

 

THEY ARE ALL TALK WITH LITTLE OR NO ACTION! Always have been and likely always will be. 

 

R.I.P. those who lost their lives, condolences to families & friends and a quick recovery to those injured.

 

As for the driver, hopefully removed from the gene pool! 

[spidermike007]

When I was growing up, we took drivers education classes. They showed us these horrendous films, of semi trucks crashing into cars, and literally obliterating them, and everything inside. Also, they showed very graphic images of head on collisions. Even as a young kid, it left a lasting impression, and I realized driving was no joking matter. Especially when you have your friends, or loved ones in the car with you. I am constantly astonished at the kinds of chances people take here, with their entire family in the car with them. Why? What is the logic? What is the reason? Why take those risks? Often, when someone cuts onto the highway in front of me, as I am doing 100kpm or more on the highway, I look in my rearview mirror, and there is nobody behind me for quite some distance. Which means, had they paused, and waited 2 or 3 seconds, there would have been zero risk to them, their family, or me and my family. What can one even say? All of this matters even more when driving a motorbike, where there is no protection. 

 

The only way to survive here on the road, is to be patient, have eyes in the back of your head, drive with caution, and always, and I mean always watch out of the other guy. Chances are, he does not have much driving skill, nor patience, nor reason, nor common sense. You cannot be too careful on the road here. Especially considering that the toy police offer no traffic safety, nor enforcement of the law. 

[Sir Swagman]

23 hours ago, Phuketshrew said:

The carnage continues. I thought that they were going to take all those double-decker death traps off the road?

They ‘said’ they were going to = it has been done. Talking about it equates to action here.

[soalbundy]

It's always the brakes fault.

[hotchilli]

New year, new statistics, same reasons !!!!

[smew]

Driving too fast for road conditions, but let’s blame the rain. Idiot drivers, unbelievable moronic driving culture. 

[Damrongsak]

22 hours ago, Chippy151 said:

The driver of a double decker bus was speeding during heavy rain at 3.20 AM. Glad I don't have to put my life in the hands of  very well trained and intelligent drivers like that.

40 years ago, I'd buy some Valium before I got on the overnight bus from Loei to BKK.

[bheard]

Lesson: never ever travel on a Thai intercity bus at night!

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[khunpa]

Again, Again and Again... It never ends and nothing ever learnt from it. So sad!

 

[cleverman]

So many dead and injured. This could run for years on here. And all the same comments. 

[kannot]

at least prayattour got some free advertising

[NanLaew]

24 minutes ago, cleverman said:

So many dead and injured. This could run for years on here. And all the same comments. 

 

This should get a bit more mileage out of this 6-pager...

 

 

Edited January 7, 2019 by NanLaew

[Wo Nelly]

Nothing new here same as 2018,2017,2016,2015 etc etc

[digger70]

Why  do we keep talking about all this carnage and rogue/brainless drivers from all types of vehicles. no matter what we say we can't do anything about it . The ones that Can do something about all this suffering don't seem to care and do nothing.

[cardinalblue]

You guys talk nonsense in terms of solutions...

 

when you still have u turns facing each other on a busy 90 kph road, why even talk about advanced tech solutions....

 

killing off nobodies is sure cheaper than road compliance 

[hobz]

18 hours ago, dcnx said:

Your life is in the hands of someone who:

 

- Believes fate decides when he dies 

- Is a poor problem solver 

- Has no fear or respect for the law

- Is poorly trained if trained at all

- Will take risks for no reason whatsoever

- 50/50 is under the influence of drugs or alcohol 

- Will drive when sleepy 

- Will drive while on the phone 

 

Why would anyone risk this risk?

 

It just doesn’t make sense.

Add to that list "is always in a hurry" 

[atyclb]

On 1/6/2019 at 11:14 AM, Wiggy said:

They were - until the brown envelopes started flying around. 

 

 

double decker envelopes

[Splash210]

I'm not shocked! At night, those bus drivers drive like a bat out of hell on the roads.

[tingtong]

judging the photo,

the driver -once again- came out from this without much injury.

 

long time believer that the safest spot on any Thai bus is the driver side, near behind him!

99% of the time they are so unharmed they can even walk/run away!

[Peterphuket]

On 1/6/2019 at 10:54 AM, worgeordie said:

So unusually the brakes worked very well this time,

the bus driver going too fast for the conditions,they

never seem to learn,resulting in more people to lose

their lives,and this time a baby,very sad RIP those that died.

regards worgeordie

Tell me, where they can learn??

On the sh*t driving school, where they get there license in 20 minutes?

After 2 attempts you'll get it always.

[PEE TEE]

Sad start to the new year . Even the professional (so called) drivers do not know about Aquaplaning .  

[Ctkong]

6 hours ago, Dogmatix said:

 

Likewise people sitting in the back of pick-up trucks after a whole family was wiped out doing that. They said they would enforce it after Songkran, so as not to inconvenience people traveling home that way, then after New Year. Then stopped talking about it at all, until the next Thai family gets spewed over the road in pieces. No reaction though when migrant workers get killed in pick-up truck accidents, as happened after the decree on working of aliens made them run for the borders.

Sadly that is the way of life in Thailand. Pickup lives are cheaper and more expendable in the eyes of the elites. Moreover if not using pickup, then what alternative form of transport is available for the poorer people? It is not that these poor people are not aware of the dangers of sitting on the truck bed. It is because this is their affordable form of transport and if any accident happens, then they will just pray for as best result as the situation warrants. 

 

 

[snooky]

On 1/6/2019 at 2:06 PM, Enoon said:

Global status report on road safety 2018

 

 

Equals 225 bus related deaths.

 

12.5 times the number of bus related deaths in the UK.

 

But I would not be suprised to find there was also 12.5 times the amount of bus usage in Thailand.

 

Which would mean that bus travel in Thailand was not quite the dangerous gamble that it is thought to be.

 

 

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Here is a comparison of US highway deaths for 2016 - population 327 million.  Only 40 deaths involving buses, and only 6 deaths involving intercity buses.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited January 7, 2019 by snooky
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[khomlong1]

On 1/6/2019 at 10:50 AM, thaichiro said:

Should have been going below “speed” during a rainstorm... especially those inherently dangerous double deckers.

Yeah, stopping distance should be doubled in heavy rain .

Not an accident, just careless driving.

Edited January 7, 2019 by khomlong1