im on ko tao now.  been coming here for 15 years.  this year i notice the oil on beach and in water . and the garbage in the sea to be too much   ..........im betting to worry about ear infections as i see tiny microns of plastic in the sea.  im seeing fish eat these tiny bits of plastic.   and i ask myself where is this garbage and oil coming from??????  ive concluded its the fishing boats in the hundreds off the coastline.  do the boats have any oversight at all?  do they change their oil at sea and just dump it in the ocean?  the oil is coming from somewheres.  and what about the garbage in the sea that is ruining the coastline?  also coming from fishing boats i conclude they just heave their trash into the sea. they dont care they just want to rape the sea of the creatures to make money so we can eat seafood. so my conclusion is that i will not eat sea creatures.  and i suggest you do this as well. if we all do it.  the fisherman will need a new career and the sea might have a chance for survival

all the fish eating these tiny bits of plastic..  what that means is we are eating it too.  we are all interconnected

I do not eat sea creatures either...but seafoods...that's another story...love fish and shrimp!  Have yet to find any plastic...????

8 minutes ago, Puchaiyank said:

I do not eat sea creatures either...but seafoods...that's another story...love fish and shrimp!  Have yet to find any plastic...????

The particles are micro so you would need microscope to see them,

or you could take the attitude,cannot see them ,why worry.

 

regards Worgeordie

Even if we all stopped eating sea animals, the fisheries would still keep harvesting the sea and using the fish for farm animal feed, fertilizer, Chinese medicine, clothing and other stuff.

 

The sea life wont recover as we will keep dumping plastic, sewerage, chemicals, oil into the ocean even if we don't eat the fish.  In fact not eating the fish might be the worst thing we could do... as there would then be zero incentive to try to clean up the oceans and make the seafood safe!

 

Sad 'fact' is the sea and land are going to get more and more polluted and abused until there is little left, and pollution will destroy the environment.  Most of the human species is content to live in filth and pollution... just look at parts of India, China, and even the west.  Even with peoples health affected, people dying from pollutants etc noting is done.  Our species will destroy our own home and ourselves... heck we can't even stop having wars and killing each other over made up religions and superstitions.  The few humans with intelligence, conscience and morals are sadly vastly outnumbered by the majority of lazy, stupid and selfish people.

 

 

A long way to go before you become a vegetarian !

Garbage., dust, smog, particle, micro particle. Nano particle, pollution... all is in the air that you aspire at every moments of your days, include inhaling at same time while you eat vegetarian food..., so why so worry about a single and poor fish? [emoji40]

I should be a little more worry about another animal like AEDES mosquito.

I suggest you stop flying all the way to thailand, do you realize how much fuel you burned by doing so? And then you went to an island by speedboat, an island that's getting very overcrowded from all the tourists flocking there. And how about your drinking water?? From a plastic bottle all day long??

Eat a steak OP

Wouldn't one just crap out the plastic?

9 hours ago, Tarteso said:

Garbage., dust, smog, particle, micro particle. Nano particle, pollution... all is in the air that you aspire at every moments of your days, include inhaling at same time while you eat vegetarian food..., so why so worry about a single and poor fish?

I should be a little more worry about another animal like AEDES mosquito.

if everybody stopped eating fish. then less incentive for boats to rape the sea.  every little step counts   what you are suggesting is to give up...........NEVER

7 hours ago, fruitman said:

I suggest you stop flying all the way to thailand, do you realize how much fuel you burned by doing so? And then you went to an island by speedboat, an island that's getting very overcrowded from all the tourists flocking there. And how about your drinking water?? From a plastic bottle all day long??

i notice all the people that have just thrown in the towel.  the younger generation deserves better

3 hours ago, Mekong2Mamtin said:

Eat a steak OP

im vegetarian.  so i dont eat steak. i havent eaten from a cow in 15 years.

7 hours ago, fruitman said:

I suggest you stop flying all the way to thailand, do you realize how much fuel you burned by doing so? And then you went to an island by speedboat, an island that's getting very overcrowded from all the tourists flocking there. And how about your drinking water?? From a plastic bottle all day long??

yes i flew to thailand just like you did. burned same amount of fuel as you.  didnt take speed boat , took sea tran , no i go to ice shop and collect my water their.  no plastic bottles .  change happens when one person stands up.  are u with me?

10 hours ago, Puchaiyank said:

I do not eat sea creatures either...but seafoods...that's another story...love fish and shrimp!  Have yet to find any plastic...????

symptoms occur later  in life. 

9 hours ago, Speedo1968 said:

A long way to go before you become a vegetarian !

i will persist

4 hours ago, Mekong2Mamtin said:

Eat a steak OP

     Those  were  the  good  old days .  Lamb chops , were  my favourite ,

     b4 , gbp  went down the pan . fond memories .

You ever tried Dolphin steak, Mr Yoga?

 

 

9 hours ago, yogavnture said:

yes i flew to thailand just like you did. burned same amount of fuel as you.  didnt take speed boat , took sea tran , no i go to ice shop and collect my water their.  no plastic bottles .  change happens when one person stands up.  are u with me?

"are u with me?"  Nope !

9 hours ago, yogavnture said:

im vegetarian.  so i dont eat steak. i havent eaten from a cow in 15 years.

Man hasn't spent the last 40 or 50 thousand years getting to the top of the food chain to eat grass !

9 hours ago, yogavnture said:

im vegetarian.  so i dont eat steak. i havent eaten from a cow in 15 years.

Humans are omnivorous. Check your teeth out, they're designed to eat meat and vegetables, it's called a balanced. diet.

 

Being a vegetarian or, worse still, a vegan, is wholly unnatural. You're going against nature and your health will suffer for it.

 

Go out and treat yourself to a nice Australian beef steak, free from preservatives and hormones. You know it makes sense.

 

BTW. Vegetables, in Thailand, are renowned for being drenched in pesticides banned in the West. Probably the unhealthiest thing that you could eat here.

 

Most seafood sold in Thailand is farmed, never been near a plastic filled ocean. I personally find the quality and taste poor, vastly inferior to seafood caught in the North Atlantic, which is why I rarely eat seafood here.

20 hours ago, yogavnture said:

and i suggest you do this as well

This is a statement that one will hear from zealots of all stripes, and an antithesis to the “up to you” attitude that most of us love so much about Thailand.

 

I eat a Ketogenic diet because I have serious health repercussions if I eat too many carbohydrates.  High carbohydrate intake can lead to obesity and possibly diabetes.  I suggest you do the same.

 

See how arrogant that sounds?

27 minutes ago, malt25 said:

Man hasn't spent the last 40 or 50 thousand years getting to the top of the food chain to eat grass !

No we smoke it instead. Far more sensible.

9 hours ago, elliss said:

     Those  were  the  good  old days .  Lamb chops , were  my favourite ,

     b4 , gbp  went down the pan . fond memories .

Had a roast lamb Sunday lunch, here in Pattaya, a couple of weeks ago. Slightly more expensive than the roast beef, but with real mint sauce and gravy, it was heaven on a plate.

21 hours ago, yogavnture said:

all the fish eating these tiny bits of plastic..  what that means is we are eating it too.  we are all interconnected

Only if you eat the stomach or digestive tracts of the fish, I prefer the flesh, but to each his own.

1 minute ago, Ahab said:

Only if you eat the stomach or digestive tracts of the fish, I prefer the flesh, but to each his own.

My wife eats the lot, including the head. She and her friends fight over the eyes.

 

Not noticed any plastic in her droppings.

5 minutes ago, Spidey said:

My wife eats the lot, including the head. She and her friends fight over the eyes.

 

Not noticed any plastic in her droppings.

How closely did you examine them though?

1 minute ago, Ahab said:

How closely did you examine them though?

If plastic were present, I'm sure that I would feel it stabbing my dick.

OP you picked the wrong forum for finding conscious consumption lol.

People on this forum argue for eating meat and against wearing dust masks. 

????

6 minutes ago, Poopyface said:

OP you picked the wrong forum for finding conscious consumption lol.

People on this forum argue for eating meat and against wearing dust masks. 

????

Is there such a thing as "unconscious consumption"? I have been known to fall asleep eating a kebab on a Saturday night, in the UK. Does that count as "unconscious consumption"?