2 minutes ago, Pilotman said:

a ridiculous post, not worth answering. 

I don’t think anyone voting Brexit wanted a return to that, but that may well be where we end up. We’ve already seen car bombs in Northern Ireland and postal bombs in the UK.

2 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

I don’t think anyone voting Brexit wanted a return to that, but that may well be where we end up. We’ve already seen car bombs in Northern Ireland and postal bombs in the UK.

and that means what exactly? Don't blame the actions of a very few deranged lunatics on Brexit. 

7 minutes ago, yuiop said:

You, instead, should join the march to overturn democracy.

You should march with them in support of big banks, big corporations and globalist scumbags who hate the general public.

You mean the banks and big corporations that made Britain the 6th strongest economy in the world.

1 minute ago, dunroaming said:

Leavers are always reminding us that they won and the remainers lost. Question is, given that the only Brexit deal on offer is nothing like what they voted for, in fact it fails on just about every count, can you call that a win?

 

Anyway it's a mute point.  In the meantime it looks like May will not last the week, according to todays reports. Many of the  cabinet members are saying that they will vote for her deal if she stands down now!

They never say what they have won though - if it was a car (made in Sunderland by Nissan workers) I could understand. It's like a form of abstract faith and belief in an afterlife and heaven something that Brexiteers seem reluctant to lose. 

 

2 minutes ago, Pilotman said:

and that means what exactly? Don't blame the actions of a very few deranged lunatics on Brexit. 

But we will and that is why we don't want it to happen alongside countless other arguments. 

4 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

I don’t think anyone voting Brexit wanted a return to that, but that may well be where we end up. We’ve already seen car bombs in Northern Ireland and postal bombs in the UK.

The UK security forces are better equipped these days to deal with terrorism acts .

3 minutes ago, sanemax said:

The UK security forces are better equipped these days to deal with terrorism acts .

True but they are a bit stretched and I wouldn't needlessly want to add to their problems. 

13 minutes ago, yuiop said:

You, instead, should join the march to overturn democracy.

You should march with them in support of big banks, big corporations and globalist scumbags who hate the general public.

Only last week the EU fined Google €1.5Billion for breaking anti trust laws (practices damaging to competition and consumers).

 

I a bit of a difficulty for Brexiteers spouting hogwash about globalist scum bags who hate the general public.

8 minutes ago, dunroaming said:

Anyway it's a mute point.  In the meantime it looks like May will not last the week, according to todays reports. Many of the  cabinet members are saying that they will vote for her deal if she stands down now!

That would be so "convenient" for the Government and remainers .

May can disappear and the Politicians can say "we had no choice" (to remain)

5 minutes ago, sanemax said:

The UK security forces are better equipped these days to deal with terrorism acts .

Your argument is ‘reactive’ since assumes UK forces responding to acts of terrorism  that take place.

 

I agree, they can.

 

But it’s not ideal is it?!

6 minutes ago, sanemax said:

The UK security forces are better equipped these days to deal with terrorism acts .

People would still die, women having their legs blown off, children orphaned, fathers watching their children die in their arms. You really want that? What kind of human being are you?

3 minutes ago, sanemax said:

That would be so "convenient" for the Government and remainers .

May can disappear and the Politicians can say "we had no choice" (to remain)

Equally it would be convenient for the Brexiteers in government who stood by and let May drop off the glass cliff following the failure of a Brexit they had no plan for and were in a case not willing to lead.

16 minutes ago, Pilotman said:

and that means what exactly? Don't blame the actions of a very few deranged lunatics on Brexit. 

A “no deal” Brexit creates that environment, something that is preventable. So anyone advocating and agitating for that outcome is doing so with no care for the consequences of that action. 

9 minutes ago, sanemax said:

That would be so "convenient" for the Government and remainers .

May can disappear and the Politicians can say "we had no choice" (to remain)

We live in hope. 

Jeez, I wish Maggie were still alive (and compos mentis).  She would have sorted this lot out months ago, kicked Tusk and Junker in the balls and brought the UK out of the EU without all this bolloking around.  

 

Absolutely hopeless what's going on, whether you be a Brexiteer or a Remainer.

"Democracy: forcing do-overs until you get the result you want."

Farage loud and proud live now on LBC. (Earning good dosh and not with his bedraggled marchers)

https://internetradiouk.com/lbc/

4 minutes ago, Myran said:

"Democracy: forcing do-overs until you get the result you want."

Socrates insisted that democracy is inherently corrupt, as it gives in to the will of the people, which is inherently depraved. Democratic people have little tolerance for argument: Mob rule sustains their political way of life. Those who disagree will be killed.

The many, Socrates explained, are unfit for rule. Humans are naturally shallow, superficial, and ignorant—given the chance, these qualities will manifest themselves as injustice. Only a select, educated few will ever be capable of effective leadership.

Just now, beautifulthailand99 said:

Socrates insisted that democracy is inherently corrupt, as it gives in to the will of the people, which is inherently depraved. Democratic people have little tolerance for argument: Mob rule sustains their political way of life. Those who disagree will be killed.

The many, Socrates explained, are unfit for rule. Humans are naturally shallow, superficial, and ignorant—given the chance, these qualities will manifest themselves as injustice. Only a select, educated few will ever be capable of effective leadership.

So, you disagree with having another referendum ?

3 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

Socrates insisted that democracy is inherently corrupt, as it gives in to the will of the people, which is inherently depraved. Democratic people have little tolerance for argument: Mob rule sustains their political way of life. Those who disagree will be killed.

The many, Socrates explained, are unfit for rule. Humans are naturally shallow, superficial, and ignorant—given the chance, these qualities will manifest themselves as injustice. Only a select, educated few will ever be capable of effective leadership.

Wasn't he Greek? Look at the mess they're in now.

12 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

A “no deal” Brexit creates that environment, something that is preventable. So anyone advocating and agitating for that outcome is doing so with no care for the consequences of that action. 

That's just providing an excuse for terrorism. 

1 minute ago, sanemax said:

So, you disagree with having another referendum ?

If you want my honest opinion then I would Revoke A50 unilaterally and be done with it. The blowback won't be bad as is feared and it moves the country on.  Anyway we have representative democracy and the referendum was advisory. 

1 minute ago, Spidey said:

Wasn't he Greek? Look at the mess they're in now.

Is that an argument?

 

Are we to discard the foundations of western philosophy, mathematics, medicine, literature and democracy because of the financial woes of the modern Greek state?

 

Or shall we be honest and take a hard look at the mess Brexit has visited in the UK?!

22 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

True but they are a bit stretched and I wouldn't needlessly want to add to their problems. 

well that sure is the weakest possible argument for staying in a corrupt and undemocratic EU that I have yet read. 

3 minutes ago, Spidey said:

Wasn't he Greek? Look at the mess they're in now.

That's what happens when empires fall.....

1 minute ago, Pilotman said:

well that sure is the weakest possible argument for staying in a corrupt and undemocratic EU that I have yet read. 

You provide no evidence for your claims.

Brexiteers trotting out claims of fraud wrt the Remain petition and arguing over the exact number of people taking part in the second mass pro Remain demonstration in London.

 

All in defence of failing Brexit that is itself the result from a referendum that was mired in electoral fraud, in which the Leave campaign was found guilty of breaking electoral law and in which Leave backer Arron Banks has been referred to the Crown Prosecution Servive for electoral finance fraud.

 

So yes, let’s discuss fraudulent results.

20 minutes ago, beautifulthailand99 said:

If you want my honest opinion then I would Revoke A50 unilaterally and be done with it. The blowback won't be bad as is feared and it moves the country on.  Anyway we have representative democracy and the referendum was advisory. 

Ferange could get a new exit political party up and running and become the next Prime minster with a landslide 17 million people voting for his Party ?

3 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Ferange could get a new exit political party up and running and become the next Prime minster with a landslide 17 million people voting for his Party ?

His Brexit march is clearly demonstrating his sway with the British public. 

 

A few dozen villages throughout England are enjoying the respite as their local idiot goes on a walking holiday.

Prove that would happen!!!
More mince from a project fear remoaner

People would still die, women having their legs blown off, children orphaned, fathers watching their children die in their arms. You really want that? What kind of human being are you?

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