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[AlexRRR]

Just now, BookMan said:

 

WHat!!????????????

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Did I mention TWO GRAND FINALS already??

He hasn't upset anything....only added to it.  Tippet has slotted in the ruck and can drift forward....Tippet, Buddy, Reid forward...potent stuff

This really is comedy Gold for Christmas from you Alex... Comedy Gold!

 

But you didn't win them.......

 

Id like to remind you a bunch of no name mostly rejects with 1 under preforming million dollar kid who was banished to the VFL at one stage beat the Swans quite handsomely  in the 2016 GF.....

 

Team Balance is what its about....there was a time when Ron B had 2 AFL teams at his disposal, North reserves would have made seniors finals easy yet in the 8 or 9 years Ron B was coach they managed 6 GF in a row winning just 2, 1 short of the Dee's record appearances and before you jump on your high horse the 7th GF by north was a replay its not counted...

 

Seen in the round ball game too, over loading with super talent does not guarantee  a flag, Team Balance.....Team Balance...your one rock star to heavy...

[BookMan]

2 minutes ago, AlexRRR said:

 

But you didn't win them.......

 

Id like to remind you a bunch of no name mostly rejects with 1 under preforming million dollar kid who was banished to the VFL at one stage beat the Swans quite handsomely  in the 2016 GF.....

 

Team Balance is what its about....there was a time when Ron B had 2 AFL teams at his disposal, North reserves would have made seniors finals easy yet in the 8 or 9 years Ron B was coach they managed 6 GF in a row winning just 2, 1 short of the Dee's record appearances and before you jump on your high horse the 7th GF by north was a replay its not counted...

 

Seen in the round ball game too, over loading with super talent does not guarantee  a flag, Team Balance.....Team Balance...your one rock star to heavy...

 

Lordy lord!!  Do u watch Swans games?  The team is far more balanced now than it was pre Buddy days....

How is success for $$ measured at Melbourne?  

Pay Paul Roos $2 million a year for the club to almost make the top 8?

Sorry, did i mention the TWO Grand Finals yet?

 

[AlexRRR]

5 minutes ago, BookMan said:

 

Lordy lord!!  Do u watch Swans games?  The team is far more balanced now than it was pre Buddy days....

How is success for $$ measured at Melbourne?  

Pay Paul Roos $2 million a year for the club to almost make the top 8?

Sorry, did i mention the TWO Grand Finals yet?

 

 

You mentioned them i just took no notice because the Swans didn't win them....bla bla bla...

[Will27]

9 hours ago, AlexRRR said:

 

You mentioned them i just took no notice because the Swans didn't win them....bla bla bla...

Coming from an outsiders point of view, I reckon Buddy has been nothing short of sensational for Sydney.

Certainly not his fault the Swans haven't got another GF under their belt.

Definitely worth the money IMO.

 

The problem will be another 4 or 5 years when he will retire. Not sure how the payments work but it was a 9 or

10 year deal I think.

 

I'm not sure if Roosy was on 2 million a year, but even if he was, it didn't affect Melbourne's salary cap and was more likely

paid for by a few benefactors anyway.

 

Has been nothing short of sensational for the club. Has turned them from a basket case into a team that has some credibility.

 

I think both clubs will be more than happy with the deals.

[AlexRRR]

2 minutes ago, Will27 said:

Coming from an outsiders point of view, I reckon Buddy has been nothing short of sensational for Sydney.

Certainly not his fault the Swans haven't got another GF under their belt.

Definitely worth the money IMO.

 

The problem will be another 4 or 5 years when he will retire. Not sure how the payments work but it was a 9 or

10 year deal I think.

 

I'm not sure if Roosy was on 2 million a year, but even if he was, it didn't affect Melbourne's salary cap and was more likely

paid for by a few benefactors anyway.

 

Has been nothing short of sensational for the club. Has turned them from a basket case into a team that has some credibility.

 

I think both clubs will be more than happy with the deals.

 

As always WILL to the rescue...always nice and polite....never said Bud wasn't worth his weight in gold just saying there one rock start to heavy....the Hawks did beat the Swans in the GF when Bud moved to the harbour city, Balance balance balance is what I'm saying......and the Swans dont have it with Tippet and Bud in the same team.

 

Books trying a slide back hand on Paulie.....outside of Clarkson Roos is regarded as the best AFL coach going around in or out of the game at current....Like Barrasi in his day its "what he brings to the club" the organisational skills of grouping a body of people from the doorman to the coaching staff...you pay big bucks for those type of people...because there dam good at it...

[BookMan]

53 minutes ago, AlexRRR said:

 

As always WILL to the rescue...always nice and polite....never said Bud wasn't worth his weight in gold just saying there one rock start to heavy....the Hawks did beat the Swans in the GF when Bud moved to the harbour city, Balance balance balance is what I'm saying......and the Swans dont have it with Tippet and Bud in the same team.

 

Books trying a slide back hand on Paulie.....outside of Clarkson Roos is regarded as the best AFL coach going around in or out of the game at current....Like Barrasi in his day its "what he brings to the club" the organisational skills of grouping a body of people from the doorman to the coaching staff...you pay big bucks for those type of people...because there dam good at it...

 

Oh Alex!  Nice attempt to backslide and change what you said before... 

Anyway, I am glad you now agree with me about Buddy

P.S Tippet and Buddy are completely different style of players. Not anywhere near the same. The similarity is they both kick goals and get paid a shitload

P.P.S. I never said Roos was a bad choice...I questioned how you defined value for money and gave you an example.

[AlexRRR]

19 minutes ago, BookMan said:

 

Oh Alex!  Nice attempt to backslide and change what you said before... 

Anyway, I am glad you now agree with me about Buddy

P.S Tippet and Buddy are completely different style of players. Not anywhere near the same. The similarity is they both kick goals and get paid a shitload

P.P.S. I never said Roos was a bad choice...I questioned how you defined value for money and gave you an example.

 

Xmas harmony fella...i never questioned Buds worth, only kept repeating 1 rock star top heavy.....Has GCS played a final yet with the brilliant Abblet in the team? no they have <deleted> not.....

 

Merry xmas kid 

[farmerjo]

[BookMan]

2 minutes ago, AlexRRR said:

 

Xmas harmony fella...i never questioned Buds worth, only kept repeating 1 rock star top heavy.....Has GCS played a final yet with the brilliant Abblet in the team? no they have <deleted> not.....

 

Merry xmas kid 

 

Here is a Xmas present quote from one of your posts Alex (#8035)...i know you are forgetting things these days..
I will send Chimpy down to you for a few days to help clean about the house and buy you some christmas foods
 

Quote

.... AFL player on the planet long before he got to Sydney,  was he worth 10 plus million....debatable, 

 

[AlexRRR]

11 minutes ago, BookMan said:

 

Here is a Xmas present quote from one of your posts Alex (#8035)...i know you are forgetting things these days..
I will send Chimpy down to you for a few days to help clean about the house and buy you some christmas foods
 

 

 

Thats right i havent questioned his worth and you young man would get thrown out of court with the argument you keep throwing up in here....

 

Fact, Hawks wont the flag after the year Bud left.

 

Fact, Swans play in 2 GF's counting 2 losses....with Bud in the team...doesnt matter if Tippet was in the line in both GF's the fact is one of these two guys is counter balancing your team...both are seen as match winners in the cosmic process of AFL you cannot have 2 match winners it does not compute fella and to further clarify the possible absence of one of these two mega stars is this, Longmire has fashioned the group around these to guys from personal to playing style ever so slight a tweak it is a tweak with runs counter clockwise to a well oiled machine such was the Hawks and the Bullies when they beat you....

 

Hawks a well balanced team

Swans not a well balanced team....

 

[BookMan]

17 minutes ago, AlexRRR said:

 

Thats right i havent questioned his worth and you young man would get thrown out of court with the argument you keep throwing up in here....

 

Fact, Hawks wont the flag after the year Bud left.

 

Fact, Swans play in 2 GF's counting 2 losses....with Bud in the team...doesnt matter if Tippet was in the line in both GF's the fact is one of these two guys is counter balancing your team...both are seen as match winners in the cosmic process of AFL you cannot have 2 match winners it does not compute fella and to further clarify the possible absence of one of these two mega stars is this, Longmire has fashioned the group around these to guys from personal to playing style ever so slight a tweak it is a tweak with runs counter clockwise to a well oiled machine such was the Hawks and the Bullies when they beat you....

 

Hawks a well balanced team

Swans not a well balanced team....

 

 

Yeah..sorry...  You saying Buddy's worth is debatable IS questioning his worth.  Your words , not mine.
Come on big fella, man up and admit you got that wrong!

Tippet is not seen as a match winner at Sydney.  Maybe for outsiders like yourself who don;t watch him play and only read about him through Herald Sun headlines, you might think he is a match winner. He isn't at all.

Alex...as for a well balanced team.  need I again remind you of the TWO grand finals?  You don't make a grand final without balance in your team.




 

[BookMan]

Well lads, 

Enjoy your day, if Christmas is your thing, enjoy that.
For me, it is just another day
Which i will be spending in the company of a lovely lovely young lass

[Will27]

3 minutes ago, BookMan said:

Well lads, 

Enjoy your day, if Christmas is your thing, enjoy that.
For me, it is just another day
Which i will be spending in the company of a lovely lovely young lass

More to the point BM, what's Chimpy doing?

[AlexRRR]

27 minutes ago, BookMan said:

 

Yeah..sorry...  You saying Buddy's worth is debatable IS questioning his worth.  Your words , not mine.
Come on big fella, man up and admit you got that wrong!

Tippet is not seen as a match winner at Sydney.  Maybe for outsiders like yourself who don;t watch him play and only read about him through Herald Sun headlines, you might think he is a match winner. He isn't at all.

Alex...as for a well balanced team.  need I again remind you of the TWO grand finals?  You don't make a grand final without balance in your team.




 

 

Tippet was a megastar when he went there end of story....

 

The value placed on Bud is debatable even if he's the best there is and its always the case when top guy is  paid well above the pack.

 

Tippet and Bud are forward ruck ruck rover types,, Tippet was sailing the crest of a wave this season until injured....they play a very similar game....there for the cosmic law is bent at Swanland....the coach has fashioned a playing style around these two its not working because it's out of wack...

 

When you build a house fella you plan it form the roof down but build it from the footings up...do you get my drift?

 

In plain english there is  only one roof but the swans have 2....this is putting undue strain on the load bearing walls followed by the footings....are you getting it yet?

 

To make it work one needs to go back to the days of a full forward and a centre half forward....a more traditional role for each player then your getting your 3 story house and its balanced....understand?

[AlexRRR]

As for the 2 FAILED attempts at winning a flag running second means nothing in AFL, no one but the supporters of the winning team recall who there team beat in the GF kid...

 

Just optus and me....

Edited December 25, 2016 by AlexRRR

[Old Croc]

27 minutes ago, BookMan said:

Well lads, 

Enjoy your day, if Christmas is your thing, enjoy that.
For me, it is just another day
Which i will be spending in the company of a lovely lovely young lass

 

Not into the religious aspect of the day, but over the years I've become used to the more bacchanalian aspects of it, so will be indulging in some fresh seafood, supplied by the Sea Gypsies of Rawai, washed down by a few cold ones brewed by the Laotians. 

I just paused my writing here because my lovely Thai neighbor  dropped in to give me a kiss and present one of her brilliant apple pies.

Enjoy your day folks

OC

 

[Radar501]

1 hour ago, BookMan said:

 

.......i will be spending in the company of a lovely lovely young lass.........
 

 

Photographic proof or it didn't happen.

 

[BookMan]

9 hours ago, AlexRRR said:

 

Tippet was a megastar when he went there end of story....

 

The value placed on Bud is debatable even if he's the best there is and its always the case when top guy is  paid well above the pack.

 

Tippet and Bud are forward ruck ruck rover types,, Tippet was sailing the crest of a wave this season until injured....they play a very similar game....there for the cosmic law is bent at Swanland....the coach has fashioned a playing style around these two its not working because it's out of wack...

 

When you build a house fella you plan it form the roof down but build it from the footings up...do you get my drift?

 

In plain english there is  only one roof but the swans have 2....this is putting undue strain on the load bearing walls followed by the footings....are you getting it yet?

 

To make it work one needs to go back to the days of a full forward and a centre half forward....a more traditional role for each player then your getting your 3 story house and its balanced....understand?

 

Settle down old fella!  You will blow a head gasket and they are expensive to fix on those old Valiants.

 

Firstly you said that Buddy’s worth was debatable, then you said you never said you questioned his worth and now again you are saying his worth is debatable.
Gentlemen, this is a very rare triple flip!!!!
 

I don’t think you could have watched Tippet or Buddy play at Sydney if you think they play a similar game at all.  Tippet as a ruck rover?  You must be kidding me…Tippet now plays straight ruckman and then resting ruckman up forward.   When he came to Sydney, yes he was recruited as a full forward and was a primary target, but things change old fella!  Roles within the team change and you need to keep up!

Buddy is a super mobile Half Forward who is almost a midfielder. He has been seen around the ruck on occasion.  He has pace and strength and will run and carry and take on the tacklers. Buddy can pinch hit a few tapouts if we are desperate. He is always providing a target and works hard for marks. Not a great contested mark, but he can and does change games.

Tippet has strength but he is never a run and carry guy and he has no pace. Unlike Buddy he wont be taking on players, selling teh candy, running through them. You don’t want Tippet having the ball in hand and making quick decisions. He is a stand and mark kind of guy, providing some leads. He is best playing deep forward, not across the half forward line.

They are different styles of players with vastly different strengths, but the similarity is they are both highly paid, they both kick goals, and they are both big men.
So people tend to assume we have two players the same because they came as highly paid goal kicking forwards.
Tippet is paid too much, no doubt about it, but we are stuck with him, so that is that.

As always , the proof is in the results. 3 finals series, 2 grand finals, almost three.

As for who remembers the losing side, I can assure you all Sydney supporters do.

If Melbourne actually make a GF again, you can tell me if you feel if that was a success or not, win or lose.
 

 

[BookMan]

8 hours ago, Radar501 said:

 

Photographic proof or it didn't happen.

 

 

It was a day well spent...photographic proof is in my hands.

We visited the Grand Palace. First time in 6 years i have entered the place.  I have been there two time in between with friends but did not enter due to the overwhelming mass of Chinese tour groups.

But today was manageable and some lovely photo ops. It really is a magical place the Grand Palace, if only I could view it all without the hordes.

 

Of course, the day was made all the more enjoyable by the company I kept

Entry fee is now 500 Baht..

[BookMan]

10 hours ago, Will27 said:

More to the point BM, what's Chimpy doing?

 

Chimps was all set to double date with me...

When I say Double date, i mean he was bringing along two girlfriends for himself.

Alas, Chimps was refused entry to the BTS system because he was carrying a bunch of helium filled balloons. 
A situation with a taser, some very long batons, and several small sized security guards began to ensue...

I have the misfortune of intimately knowing Chimps and his fetishes, and they do include prodding and electric shocks and small men...so i knew there would be a large delay and possible life time banning from the Bangkok transport system, so I exited stairs upwards and left him to his own devices.
 

Edited December 25, 2016 by BookMan

[joboss]

On 12/25/2016 at 10:35 AM, Will27 said:

More to the point BM, what's Chimpy doing?

Chimpy is  sleeping her off.. BM has picked up the discard like the true gentleman he is.

[optad]

Alex exhausted the energy in thread.

[Old Croc]

10 minutes ago, optad said:

Alex exhausted the energy in thread.

He does that.

I know I can't be bothered reading him when he gets his pedantic hat on.

Grant seems to have disappeared lately.

[optad]

I wish i had moderation powers on this thread. I would make alex write text in yellow, post scandinavian pictures and use punctuation. 

 

Cannot moderate cognition so you just hope for an improvement. 

[joboss]

2 hours ago, optad said:

Cannot moderate cognition so you just hope for an improvement. 

Entirely unfair synopsis of a scribe of wisdom, vision and humour.

[AlexRRR]

The year is almost over as we approach a new year prediction time for season 2017 is at hand.....ive gazed into my whisky glass....JW Black, double when available....the following has been revealed to me in a haze of liquid golden brown .....

 

 

1...The Cats, will be a better team after the best recruiting drive of modern history end of 2015, dead wood and meg bucks Clarke list clogger a favourite term used by our very own WILL delisted and balance restored to a very talented team with a lot to prove...there song of choice for this season will be "Ride like the Wind" (its a classic you should know it)

 

2... Swans...yet again, bridesmaids once more, one rock star top heavy will again be turning up to let it slip away, forcing Tippet to be traded to the far West...there song of choice for this season will be "Another Day by Paul Macartney"

 

3...GWS....they will keep on trucking on...Delidio wont make that much of a difference the fact they have a dam good list will keep them up for sometime to come. There song of choice will be "You Sexy Thing by Hot Chocolate"

 

4..Crows...ho there itching to go, will prove to be hard to beat at home even with record membership there still quite not there several rock stars short on this list...There song of choice will be (Start me up by the Stones)

 

5..Hawks...yes there not going away, experience will keep them up could even go higher yet its possible  they may even fall out of the 5 thanks in apart to the way they handled the Lewis and Mitchell affairs, are they professional or still a suburban footy team? this season will tell all...there song of choice will be "Peace Frog by the Doors"

 

6...Bulldogs..were all wiser and there taken a few hits still will be value for your money if your a betting man and im not...premiership blues for sure should do enough to stay up...There song of choice will be "You make my dreams come true" no idea who sang that...

 

7..Chooks Saints...fast and furious recruited well in the off....could slot in at 6 terrorise us every time..there song of choice will be " Up up and away by the 5th Dimension" yes fellas thats old...

 

8..Magnificent Dee's continue the rise, it is expected they will make the 8 have talent to burn as well with the addition of Lewis and Hibbered a lot more solid now. There song of choice will be..."Knock Knocking on Heavens Door by Bob Dylan"

 

9..Bombers...yes there back and could even make the 8, good coach i think and 10 fresh players Hawks and Bulldogs on shaky ground i think ....There song of choice will be "Tired of Being Alone by Al Green"

 

10...Freo....they think there recruited well....could they be so bad again? There song of choice will be "Me and Mrs Jones by Billy Paul"

 

11 ...Magpies....not well enough for Buckly to keep his job and this position is raffled with WCE..There song of choice will be..."After The Love Has Gone by EW&F...earth wind and fire for who dont know"

 

12...WCE....sorry WILL....recruiting pensioners does not work, North hung on to an ordinary lot of veterans and we see how they went...There song of choice will be "What Can I Say by Boz Scaggs"

 

13...Port...there a hard team to predict...they continually frustrate me in the tipping...there song of choice will be "Sexual Healing by Marvin Gaye"

 

14....Blues...could climb one notch next year boys....There song of choice will be "Good Vibrations by The Beach Boys"

 

15...GCS....im really sorry for Rodney the culture at the Suns is pretty ordinary...There song of choice will be "Taken In by Mike and the Mechanics"

 

16...North.....the big drop....Scott will be looking down the barrel of his coaching career...changes will be made, the Roos wont tolerate another slide to oblivion... There song of choice will be "Fall at your Feet by Crowded House"

 

17...Tigers....by by damian.....There song of choice will be " True by Spandau Ballet"

 

18...Lions....going now where fast...There song of choice will be "Breakdown by Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers."

 

As always there are surprises....what could they be? 

 

Dee's dont do any good under Goodwin..unlikely one of the best run clubs today..

 

Hardwick has a plan.....and it works this time..

 

GCS find the magic we have been expecting....

 

Saints flop more of the same, promising yet dont deliver enough....

 

Magpies finally get the mix right....

 

Bombers dont recover and are just an actual ordinary team...

 

Hawks could prove that there recruiting drive is a winner....

 

Swans could falter though its hard to see...

 

Crows not as good as they thought and i think that...

 

Bulldogs are pure steel....unlikley...

 

North....haha no there doomed....

 

Port get the buzz and a plane load of chico rolls....ho thats not chinese....

 

WCE....ahh its a given....and down will WILL's tipping go he lives on Eagles wins.....hehehe

[Will27]

11 minutes ago, AlexRRR said:

The year is almost over as we approach a new year prediction time for season 2017 is at hand.....ive gazed into my whisky glass....JW Black, double when available....the following has been revealed to me in a haze of liquid golden brown .....

 

AlexRRR, that is Poster of the Year stuff right there fella

 

I must admit though, when I read your assessment of West Coast, my song was Downhearted by Australia Crawl.

Edited December 30, 2016 by Will27

[AlexRRR]

15 minutes ago, Will27 said:

AlexRRR, that is Poster of the Year stuff right there fella

 

I must admit though, when I read your assessment of West Coast, my song was Downhearted by Australia Crawl.

 

The critics will be out in force over there chosen song mr WILL....i like to add here it was difficult...the song part as i prefer new music alternative and often latin and reggae, i had to scrape the barrel of my youth to come up with these....

 

Ps i preferred Eric Clapton's version of Knocking on Heavens Door, he did it in a reggae style....did a great job on Bob Marley's "I Shot the Sheriff" live that i have somewhere in the basement of my sordid life.....

[BookMan]

44 minutes ago, AlexRRR said:

The year is almost over as we approach a new year prediction time for season 2017 is at hand.....ive gazed into my whisky glass....JW Black, double when available....the following has been revealed to me in a haze of liquid golden brown .....

 

 

Great stuff Alex... starting your morning with a bottle of Scotch and a bowl of cornflakes?

 

[AlexRRR]

5 hours ago, BookMan said:

 

Great stuff Alex... starting your morning with a bottle of Scotch and a bowl of cornflakes?

 

 

Thank you for your compliment....hard liquor is drank after 7pm, Beer after 1 pm....

 

I have milk with half a teaspoon of coffee in it you see I'm like my mum almost ....i dont like white food unless its chocolate, well most white foods....especially crapy white sauces that people are fond of putting on there pasta....

 

Cornflakes dont ummmm bulk out the bowl but weeties or wheat Bix do so sometimes i add cornflakes and sometimes i add rice bubbles and sometimes i just stick to the wheat bix kid....but not today i was fasting just 2 cups of coffee......the buzz from the caffeine inspired me....the golden brown liquid was the coffee...i have writers privilege and needed to spice it up for my detractors....

Edited December 30, 2016 by AlexRRR