12 hours ago, Puchaiyank said:

This will be a much watched made for TV Mini-series one day...so much drama...so much political demagogery...so much high-level conspiracies against the President's organization...will become an instant hit with cameo appearances from Hillary Clinton, Obama, Loretta Lynch, Eric Holder, Bill Clinton, Jim Comey, Rod Rosenstein and others who helped in forming the false narrative.  HRC will be interviewed for comments on Presidential obstruction while Bill will speak to the moral integrity of the Whitehouse...????

Looking forward to the Cameo of the man himself in his orange jumpsuit.

Bottom line imo the only reason Donald isent indicted on obstruction is because he is potus if you or I as a common man were in his shoes we would be in jail on a no bail warrant 

4 hours ago, Thainesss said:

 

Considering my post - the one you quoted and replied to - clearly states "Comey" in it, I have no idea what you're talking about. 

My apology’s please replace mr muller with Comey and let the statement stand 

1 hour ago, Trouble said:

The report cost $30-35 million and took two years. 

The Mueller investigated resulted in confiscations of money that amounted to more than that. It was a net positive financially, as well as resulting in many criminal convictions and indictments.

 

Compare that to the recent Benghazi investigation which also took two years, had a net loss of $7 million, and found no criminal wrongdoing.

 

Why do the democrats want to see Trump's tax returns? It's not just the democrats. In every poll shown which asks whether or not people want to see Trump's tax returns the majority of Americans have wanted to see them. Typically in the 55-60% range wish to see his tax returns and 25-27% don't care about it. Why do they want to see his tax returns? 

 

Well, for one he has bent over backwards to make Putin happy, all the while claiming he has no financial interests in Russia. Which we now know was a lie when he was telling it. While he was making that claim he was working to try to close a massive offer for a Trump Tower Moscow. His own son claimed that a disproportionate amount of money comes to them from Russia, and now they claim they have no interests. Not to mention other strange deals with other countries. The American people deserve to see where Trump's money and investments are coming from so it can be determined if he is putting his own financial gain ahead of the interest of the American people. 

 

 

11 minutes ago, jcsmith said:

Well, for one he has bent over backwards to make Putin happy, all the while claiming he has no financial interests in Russia. Which we now know was a lie when he was telling it. While he was making that claim he was working to try to close a massive offer for a Trump Tower Moscow. His own son claimed that a disproportionate amount of money comes to them from Russia, and now they claim they have no interests. Not to mention other strange deals with other countries. The American people deserve to see where Trump's money and investments are coming from so it can be determined if he is putting his own financial gain ahead of the interest of the American people. 

 And still No collusion,no conspiracy by any Americans !

Sir with all due respect bs if it were you or I we would be in the deepest dungeon with a hood over our heads  awaiting interrogation he is instructing his staff to obstruct lawfull inquiry’s the only thing saving his rear end is the fear not respect the rest of the republicans have for him

On 4/24/2019 at 4:50 PM, BobBKK said:

Guess you didn't know there are no charges and no collusion  ????

Hilarious.  Maybe you need a dictionary-there are some big words I know-I trust you can work through it ????

Troll post removed.

On 4/25/2019 at 12:20 AM, riclag said:

 And still No collusion,no conspiracy by any Americans !

 

Mueller said in plain language that he was unable to reach such a conclusion because of the DoJ policy on indicting a sitting president.  

 

That means even if Mueller found clear, hard evidence of Trump committing a crime, he still would have been unable to bring charges.

 

Trump avoided being charged on a mere technicality.

 

From the Mueller report:

 

If we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, however, we are unable to reach that judgment.

 

Mueller was unable to reach a conclusion that Trump did not commit obstruction of justice, and yet due to the DoJ policy mentioned above, was also unable to charge him.  That is why Mueller referred the matter to congress.

On 4/25/2019 at 12:20 AM, riclag said:

 And still No collusion,no conspiracy by any Americans !

Right, so Manafort handing a known Russian intelligence service agent GOP internal polling data was not collusion or conspiracy?

 

 

Trump could not help himself.

 

In response to McGahn being subpoenaed Trump hit twitter to comment on his interactions with McGahn.

 

In doing so he scuppered his Executive Privilege.

 

 

You can’t fix stupid.

Unfortunately I think Donald will continue to stonewall and play the victim game hopefully we can work through this and hold him accountable 

On ‎4‎/‎24‎/‎2019 at 2:12 PM, webfact said:

Such a high standard would not apply to Democrats if they decided to bring impeachment proceedings.

Just do it, go on, just do it.

It'll be an entertaining circus and in the end the Dems will just help Trump win the election.

It must be tragic being an American and seeing the congress wasting millions of taxpayer dollars on this, IMO, farce.

25 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Just do it, go on, just do it.

It'll be an entertaining circus and in the end the Dems will just help Trump win the election.

It must be tragic being an American and seeing the congress wasting millions of taxpayer dollars on this, IMO, farce.

Perhaps holding the Executive in check is something that you don't understand. 

 

You might want to consider the value of that concept when next commenting on the failures at Westminster. 

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Perhaps holding the Executive in check is something that you don't understand. 

 

????

 

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Right, so Manafort handing a known Russian intelligence service agent GOP internal polling data was not collusion or conspiracy?

 

According to literally everyone other than Democrats there was no collusion or conspiracy. This is simply a fact. 

 

Youre interpretation and exaggeration of events does not change this. 

3 hours ago, attrayant said:

 

Mueller said in plain language that he was unable to reach such a conclusion because of the DoJ policy on indicting a sitting president.  

 

That means even if Mueller found clear, hard evidence of Trump committing a crime, he still would have been unable to bring charges.

 

Trump avoided being charged on a mere technicality.

 

From the Mueller report:

 

If we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, however, we are unable to reach that judgment.

 

Mueller was unable to reach a conclusion that Trump did not commit obstruction of justice, and yet due to the DoJ policy mentioned above, was also unable to charge him.  That is why Mueller referred the matter to congress.

Neither did he reach a conclusion that Trump DID commit obstruction.

Given that, IMO, Mueller wanted to see Trump brought down, and was unable to find any conclusive proof, there is probably no conclusive proof to be found.

Impeachment is a political performance, so the congress can impeach him anyway, but when Pelosi is reluctant/ unwilling to do it, I can't see it happening. I'll be disappointed that the entertainment will not proceed though.

5 minutes ago, Thainesss said:

 

????

 

 

According to literally everyone other than Democrats there was no collusion or conspiracy. This is simply a fact. 

 

Youre interpretation and exaggeration of events does not change this. 

I think the Dems believe that if they say obstruction of justice often enough it'll somehow come true.

It's like the robot boy in AI sitting at the bottom of the frozen sea for centuries saying to the Blue Angel "he committed obstruction of justice" over and over till his batteries ran down. He didn't become a real boy and I doubt it'll make Trump guilty of it.

On 4/24/2019 at 10:11 AM, Chomper Higgot said:

I’m looking forward to hearing what McGahn has to say.

 

That Trump thought McGahn worked for him and as such there was ‘Client Attorney’ privilege has surely lead to some howlers out of Trump.

zero mcgahn statements but lots of them in respect of the hillary reckoning her ukrain collusion. thereto muellers conflict of interest  fired fbi director comney and mueller are the best friends.

wbr

roobaa01

1 hour ago, Thainesss said:

 

????

 

 

According to literally everyone other than Democrats there was no collusion or conspiracy. This is simply a fact. 

 

Youre interpretation and exaggeration of events does not change this. 

Are you incapable of understanding the difference between insufficient evidence to prosecute for conspiracy or obstruction, and definitively stating there was no conspiracy or obstruction?

 

Or do you think, as thaibeachlovers explains above, that if you keep stating "no collusion, no obstruction" that simple minded people will believe it?

Guess who just jumped into a life raft at Fox News!...

This will make for a great campaign ad! ????

 

36 minutes ago, roobaa01 said:

zero mcgahn statements but lots of them in respect of the hillary reckoning her ukrain collusion. thereto muellers conflict of interest  fired fbi director comney and mueller are the best friends.

wbr

roobaa01

But but but..... Hillary!

5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

But but but..... Hillary!

like devin nunes spoke out correctly on fox "the dossier -the- paid- for dirt by clinton"

 

wbr

roobaa01

9 minutes ago, roobaa01 said:

like devin nunes spoke out correctly on fox "the dossier -the- paid- for dirt by clinton"

 

wbr

roobaa01

But Mom... Hillary started it!...

1 hour ago, heybruce said:

Are you incapable of understanding the difference between insufficient evidence to prosecute for conspiracy or obstruction, and definitively stating there was no conspiracy or obstruction?

 

Or do you think, as thaibeachlovers explains above, that if you keep stating "no collusion, no obstruction" that simple minded people will believe it?

 

Are you incapable of reading what I actually type? Poster I was replying to said "Collusion and Conspiracy" and it is an unequivocal fact that there was no evidence of either. These are the hard facts, and if you choose to ignore these facts and continue to bang on about something that didnt happen, thats up to you, but its hardly surprising coming from the SAME partisan hypocrites that continue push this trash. 

 

2 hours ago, roobaa01 said:

like devin nunes spoke out correctly on fox "the dossier -the- paid- for dirt by clinton"

 

wbr

roobaa01

Devin Nunes, he of the pretending the document handed him by the WH is a revelation he’s found that he needs to rush over to the WH.

 

That Devin Nunes?!

1 hour ago, Thainesss said:

 

Are you incapable of reading what I actually type? Poster I was replying to said "Collusion and Conspiracy" and it is an unequivocal fact that there was no evidence of either. These are the hard facts, and if you choose to ignore these facts and continue to bang on about something that didnt happen, thats up to you, but its hardly surprising coming from the SAME partisan hypocrites that continue push this trash. 

 

You need to read the Mueller report, there is plenty of evidence of Collusion and Conspiracy.

 

Manafort handing GOP polling data to a known Russian intelligence office is one example.

 

Manafort, Kushner and Donny Jnr attending a meeting with a known Russian intelligence asset to obtain dirt from Russia on Clinton is another.

 

There are at least 9 other examples in the Mueller report.

 

 

 

On 4/24/2019 at 3:29 AM, TopDeadSenter said:

Groan... Are they never going to admit this was a hoax? This is getting really pathetic now. The correct course would be grovelling apologies, sincere and repeated. Firing all the fake news anchors for running with a wild conspiracy hoax for near on 3 years without a scintilla of evidence. Closing channels that still refuse to apologize would be better. Start to allow the nation to heal the divide the conspiracy caused. Not keep on blindly forging ahead knowing the whole case is BS. Still, if they want to lose the 2020 election I suppose this is as good a way as any. Trump will be laughing his head of at this folly.

For goodness sake take your medication !

1 minute ago, joecoolfrog said:

For goodness sake take your medication !

It's really funny. The "trump" fans in the "trump" twitter troll / Fox "News" bubble actually expect people not similarly brainwashed to adopt their propaganda talking points. Talk about pathetic and clueless! 

On 4/24/2019 at 10:50 AM, BobBKK said:

Guess you didn't know there are no charges and no collusion  ????

No charges as of yet !

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You need to read the Mueller report, there is plenty of evidence of Collusion and Conspiracy.

 

Manafort handing GOP polling data to a known Russian intelligence office is one example.

 

Manafort, Kushner and Donny Jnr attending a meeting with a known Russian intelligence asset to obtain dirt from Russia on Clinton is another.

 

There are at least 9 other examples in the Mueller report.

 

 

 

there is no federal crime statute for "collusion", why do people

still use the term??