Pattaya Versus DaNang and the winner is?

[KhunHeineken]

On 7/17/2019 at 7:24 PM, atyclb said:

 

huda is good. lots of it in da nang and cheap.

Yes, I know.  I was asking for it in southern places  of Vietnam.  Found it regularly, but not everywhere.  It really is a nice beer.   

[KhunHeineken]

On 7/17/2019 at 12:31 PM, luckyluke said:

No, extension based on retirement. 

But I am Belgian, one of the +/- 70 countries which embassy/consulate here is still issuing a Letter of Income / Affidavit. 

I understand, and this is good for you.

 

Can I ask, as other people have had their consulates stop issuing income verification letters, what are your plans, should your embassy also stop issuing  these letters?  

[luckyluke]

5 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

Can I ask, as other people have had their consulates stop issuing income verification letters, what are your plans, should your embassy also stop issuing  these letters?  

I am permanently here since 2000. 

 

Since than I transfer (voluntarily) 2000 euro monthly to Thailand and spend them. 

So, that would be OK for the "65000 monthly rule". 

 

I am also married to a Thai lady, so 40000 would also be OK for the "Marriage Visa rule". 

 

 

 

 

[Ulysses G.]

On 4/26/2019 at 8:01 AM, sunnyboy2018 said:

Saigon is kicking. Hanoi is cultured  but closed at 10.30. Danang. I'd like to go but I know it wont be like pattaya.  Let's face it. For pattaya, better or worse.  Theres no place like it.

I haven't been for awhile, but Vung Tow was known as the Pattaya of Vietnam back when I lived in Hanoi - lots of sex workers on the beach and such.

[atyclb]

13 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

On 7/17/2019 at 4:24 PM, atyclb said:

 

huda is good. lots of it in da nang and cheap.

Yes, I know.  I was asking for it in southern places  of Vietnam.  Found it regularly, but not everywhere.  It really is a nice beer.   

 

i noticed haiphong beer not available either away from native area.

[KhunHeineken]

On 7/18/2019 at 3:44 AM, lamyai3 said:

It's brewed in Hue, not far up the coast from Danang. Huda is a combination of Hu (Hue) and da (Danmach), due to the use of Danish brewing technology and equipment. 

Ok. 

 

I had found it in Ho Chi Minh City, but it's not a beer available nation wide so easily. 

 

It would probably be my regular beer, and not because of pricing.  I actually think it's a great beer. 

[sanemax]

On 7/18/2019 at 6:42 PM, uzynkotak said:

How about finding non pro girls in danang? It's a city of 1+million people so I'm sure there are some girls on tinder, in bars and what have you.

 

Depends on who you are  , if you are young and rich and looking for a future Wife , you may be in luck .

If you are old , unkempt or has lots of baggage and are looking for free sex, you probably wont find anything  

[atyclb]

Vietnam; virtually no obesity

 

Thailand; 35-40% obesity, ranks # 2 after Malaysia, the SE Asia obesity capitol

[NanLaew]

On 7/19/2019 at 8:02 AM, Ulysses G. said:

I haven't been for awhile, but Vung Tow was known as the Pattaya of Vietnam back when I lived in Hanoi - lots of sex workers on the beach and such.

Yup, you're right when you say you haven't been in a while.

[KhunHeineken]

On 7/21/2019 at 3:20 PM, sanemax said:

if you are young and rich and looking for a future Wife , you may be in luck .

I agree, but you don't have to be so young, or so rich.

 

To be with a foreigner is still a bit of a novelty in Vietnam. 

 

Even the Vietnamese men want to have a beer with a foreigner.  Something that certainly doesn't exist in Thailand. 

[aspenbkk]

On 4/27/2019 at 1:18 AM, Destiny1990 said:

How about aggressive  stray dogs?

no stray dogs going about there in VIetnam as i never saw any AND Thailand HAS HAD ITS DAY Sinking Very Fast Hopefully During High Season AGAIN LIKE LAST YEAR I SAW A BIG DROP IN TOURISTS IN PATTAYA LAST YEAR Lots of guys i knew Avoided it .

[Da Nang]

Da Nang beach north and south.

Drink beer and booze in Vietnam is very cheap compared to Thailand.

Small beer at restaurants 20-30b. Supermarkets 7 can's for 100b.

[Da Nang]

In that two level sea food restaurant in the middle of the photo 3 cans of Tiger beer only 100b.

 

The location could be comparable  as Pattaya Klang X Beach Road.

 

Remind me Pattaya about 15 years ago.

[DrTuner]

16 hours ago, KhunHeineken said:

To be with a foreigner is still a bit of a novelty in Vietnam. 

Won't last for long. The pattern is the same, first ones, when there are only a few around, are a novelty and treated well. When the hordes come, they turn into despicable aliens the only purpose of which is to be an ATM. It's human nature.

[Ron jeremy]

As a 9 year veteran of Thailand, and Asia, here is my 2 cents.

i have never felt so safe as in Danang.

city is very very clean, beach is beautiful and yes u can actually swim in the ocean, ( unlike pattaya)

beautiful boardwalk along the beach, as well as along the riverside in downtown Danang.

people in Danang were THE friendliest I have ever come across in Asia.

international airport

city bylaw that no beggars are allowed

no stray dogs, people actually have pets here and actually take care of them

lots of great dining options, - international cuisine 

nice mix of bars, expat and local, with no hookers bothering you

by far the most beautiful woman in th world. Classy well dressed sophisticated woman, unlike the Thai trash

not throwing themselves at the unkept scumbags frequenting pattaya

the weather is fabulous, warm during the day, cool at night

class of people and expats- tourists is far superior than the lowlifes in pattaya, I found it like a breath of fresh air, actually being able to carry on a conversation with someone.

no drunk in men laying around in a pool of urine, wasting away like in pattaya.

pattaya scum should not even bother with Danang as woman here won't even acknowledge you, so stay in pattaya with all the other decrepit lowlifes.

service is fabulous, as the people here actually want your business and are happy to serve you.

people are very honest, never saw anyone cheated on money.

loved Danang, feel sorry for the people spending their golden years in the pattaya shithole.

dress appropriately , smile and the local woman love you, families greet you walking around, people want to speak with u, foreigners are still a novelty.

so quiet and relaxed at night.

 

Edited July 25, 2019 by Ron jeremy

[KhunHeineken]

On 7/25/2019 at 2:23 PM, DrTuner said:

Won't last for long. The pattern is the same, first ones, when there are only a few around, are a novelty and treated well. When the hordes come, they turn into despicable aliens the only purpose of which is to be an ATM. It's human nature.

Considering Vietnam's boarders only really opened up around 1990, and no one rushed in until word got around in relation to safety, I think it's fair to say the "novelty" factor will be around for some years, possibly decades, to come.

 

Thailand / Pattaya, on the other hand, if it doesn't take drastic action, and soon, will just become a shadow of its former self, with many derelict buildings falling into various stages of decay, as the tourists, and therefore the next generation of retirees, chose Vietnam over Thailand.  

[BritManToo]

On 7/26/2019 at 4:23 AM, Ron jeremy said:

by far the most beautiful woman in th world.

Last month I got on the bus to Hoi An (80c and 35 minutes away).

These Chinese? ladies got in front of my photo of the Japanese Bridge.

 

 

[Jingthing]

45 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

Considering Vietnam's boarders only really opened up around 1990, and no one rushed in until word got around in relation to safety, I think it's fair to say the "novelty" factor will be around for some years, possibly decades, to come.

 

Thailand / Pattaya, on the other hand, if it doesn't take drastic action, and soon, will just become a shadow of its former self, with many derelict buildings falling into various stages of decay, as the tourists, and therefore the next generation of retirees, chose Vietnam over Thailand.  

No retirement visa in Vietnam. 

[geoffbezoz]

4 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

No retirement visa in Vietnam. 

No but unlike Thailand being married to a Vietnamese gives you easy access to a 5 year exemption cert and and, unlike Thailand, a sensible chance of a permanent residency card.  

[Jingthing]

Just now, geoffbezoz said:

No but unlike Thailand being married to a Vietnamese gives you easy access to a 5 year exemption cert and and, unlike Thailand, a sensible chance of a permanent residency card.  

That's great but I was responding to a post that touted it as a place to retire. It is not that yet and it may never be. I wouldn't be surprised if they never bother with retirement visas. Most countries don't. To people that say you can live on visa runs, yeah you can, but for an entire retirement? 

[geoffbezoz]

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

That's great but I was responding to a post that touted it as a place to retire. It is not that yet and it may never be. I wouldn't be surprised if they never bother with retirement visas. Most countries don't. To people that say you can live on visa runs, yeah you can, but for an entire retirement? 

Strangely enough many married people retire also, hence the advantage of Vietnam to Thailand if married to a Vietnamese as a place to retire or do you only consider single people can retire ?

[Jingthing]

Strangely enough many married people retire also, hence the advantage of Vietnam to Thailand if married to a Vietnamese as a place to retire or do you only consider single people can retire ?

Different class of visa.

Sent from my Lenovo A7020a48 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app

[geoffbezoz]

Just now, Jingthing said:

Different class of visa.

Sent from my Lenovo A7020a48 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app
 

Maybe so but to quote you "That's great but I was responding to a post that touted it as a place to retire", so hence the subject is about retiring in Vietnam, not the type of visa to do so.

[geoffbezoz]

On 7/25/2019 at 9:23 PM, Ron jeremy said:

As a 9 year veteran of Thailand, and Asia, here is my 2 cents.

i have never felt so safe as in Danang.

city is very very clean, beach is beautiful and yes u can actually swim in the ocean, ( unlike pattaya)

beautiful boardwalk along the beach, as well as along the riverside in downtown Danang.

people in Danang were THE friendliest I have ever come across in Asia.

international airport

city bylaw that no beggars are allowed

no stray dogs, people actually have pets here and actually take care of them

lots of great dining options, - international cuisine 

nice mix of bars, expat and local, with no hookers bothering you

by far the most beautiful woman in th world. Classy well dressed sophisticated woman, unlike the Thai trash

not throwing themselves at the unkept scumbags frequenting pattaya

the weather is fabulous, warm during the day, cool at night

class of people and expats- tourists is far superior than the lowlifes in pattaya, I found it like a breath of fresh air, actually being able to carry on a conversation with someone.

no drunk in men laying around in a pool of urine, wasting away like in pattaya.

pattaya scum should not even bother with Danang as woman here won't even acknowledge you, so stay in pattaya with all the other decrepit lowlifes.

service is fabulous, as the people here actually want your business and are happy to serve you.

people are very honest, never saw anyone cheated on money.

loved Danang, feel sorry for the people spending their golden years in the pattaya shithole.

dress appropriately , smile and the local woman love you, families greet you walking around, people want to speak with u, foreigners are still a novelty.

so quiet and relaxed at night.

 

So reading between the lines, do I gather Pattaya may not be up to much ? ????

[RoadWarrior371]

47 minutes ago, geoffbezoz said:

So reading between the lines, do I gather Pattaya may not be up to much ? ????

 

Either that, or scorned by a Ladyboy.  Hard to tell with some of these editorials....????

[KhunHeineken]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

No retirement visa in Vietnam. 

Maybe so, but no 800k/400k seasoning and waste of money, no TM30, and all of the other costly, time consuming, bureaucratic crap that the Thai visa system has.

[KhunHeineken]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

That's great but I was responding to a post that touted it as a place to retire. It is not that yet and it may never be. I wouldn't be surprised if they never bother with retirement visas. Most countries don't. To people that say you can live on visa runs, yeah you can, but for an entire retirement? 

Whilst you use the words "visa run" most retirees, even those in Thailand, go on a holiday, or go back to their home country.  This can easily act as a "visa run" in Vietnam.

 

As far as Vietnam will never be a place to retire to, tell that to all the retired expats in Vietnam that p*ss themselves laughing at the hoops the retired expats in Thailand have to jump through to do the same thing they are doing in Vietnam, but for way cheaper and easier. ????

[Pattaya46]

4 minutes ago, KhunHeineken said:

Maybe so, but no 800k/400k seasoning and waste of money, no TM30, and all of the other costly, time consuming, bureaucratic crap that the Thai visa system has.

Please don't take your personal case as a general rule...

I am living here on Retirement Extension; I don't need to have 800k, 400k or any amount in a Thai bank; I only need to visit the Immigration once a year for the extension. (or in fact twice as I must come back the next they to get back my passport). No TM30 needed and 90-Days reports take 2 minutes on computer.

For many people it's far to be as bad as you describe it. 

 

[KhunHeineken]

12 minutes ago, Pattaya46 said:

For many people it's far to be as bad as you describe it. 

And for many people, it is as bad as I describe it. 

 

No doubt you have seen the many threads in the Visa Forum. 

[Ron jeremy]

1 hour ago, RoadWarrior371 said:

 

Either that, or scorned by a Ladyboy.  Hard to tell with some of these editorials....????

Surprised it took the Chang brigade so long to reply.