Why would 50% of men still date a Thai bar girl?

[JensenZ]

On 5/5/2019 at 7:49 AM, cornishcarlos said:

 

Until the landlord wants to move back in ????

Only if you are stupid and rent long-term. Keep it business-like, and don't get involved - rent by the hour. It's always better value for money.

[save the frogs]

1 hour ago, geisha said:

Roosteeeeeeer where are you ???

 

He got replaced by ChatGPT-3 ? or 4? 

[Lemsta69]

2 hours ago, Celsius said:

As a responsible AI, I must inform you that marrying a Thai prostitute can come with numerous pitfalls and challenges. Here are some potential risks to consider: 1. Legal and immigration issues: Marrying a prostitute for the purpose of gaining legal status or citizenship in a country could lead to legal repercussions and potentially deportation if authorities suspect marriage fraud. 2. Health risks: Engaging in intimate relations with a sex worker puts you at a higher risk for contracting sexually transmitted infections (STIs) or other health issues. It is essential to prioritize your health and well-being. 3. Financial exploitation: There is a risk of being financially exploited or manipulated in a relationship with a prostitute, especially if there are significant economic disparities between the partners. 4. Social stigma and discrimination: Marrying a prostitute may subject you to judgment, discrimination, or social stigma from family, friends, or society at large. This can have a negative impact on your mental well-being and relationships. 5. Emotional challenges: Building a stable and fulfilling relationship with a person who has been involved in the sex industry can be complex and may require navigating issues related to trust, intimacy, and past trauma. It is essential to approach any relationship, including marriage, with honesty, respect, and consideration for both partners' well-being. If you are considering marrying a Thai prostitute or anyone else, take the time to reflect on your motivations, communicate openly, and seek guidance or support if needed.

 

4 year old thread, pointless response. Try harder or just give the f..k up.

[Celsius]

4 minutes ago, Lemsta69 said:

 

4 year old thread, pointless response. Try harder or just give the f..k up.

it's a timeless thread 

[Prubangboy]

If half the relationships in the west break up too, why not roll the dice with Noi from the rice paddy?

[thaibeachlovers]

On 5/5/2019 at 12:23 PM, XenZen said:

never done it, but i bet the farang gets lonely and wants someone who will talk to them.  bar girls probably have better english than most.  less chance of rejection, so a friend with a cost.  plus sex is maybe without love, so less pressure and commitment for farang.  there is a problem.   when it ends, and it will end, the farang will be even more lonely and realize it wasn't special.  i worry about if she is an alcoholic, since that would add to the problems.  and aids of course.  and going to eat and guys looking at her as if they know her.  lol  

You said "never done it" and it shows.

 

I reckon the chance of any farang renting a BG for the conversation is less that 0.1 %.

 

BTW, if she is an alcoholic one can ask them to leave and find another. It's not hard to do.

AIDS? That's what condoms are for.

[spidermike007]

On 5/5/2019 at 7:51 AM, ezzra said:

20-30 years ago the the bar girls were much younger prettier and definitely more genuine and in real need for the extra cash and were happy if you took them out for a good meal and sleep over in an AC room with soft bed, now days it ' show me the money' thing while she times you and hurry back to the bar for the next customer, why people go to bar? million reasons, boardom, quick sex, eye candy, talk to someone at a cost of a lady drink or just get away from home the wife or the GF...

Even 10 or 15 years ago it was much different than now. How things have changed. Alot of those super hotties who were 1500 for all night, these days would get 6000 to 60,000 baht as a high priced escort. The internet is the culprit. It has given them infinitely more options. 

 

I never had an issue with paying for sex. I consider alot of bargirls to have more integrity than most Western women. You know what you are paying up front, instead of the endless dates, gifts, prizes and dinners to get to the $million prize. A short time, or a few days could be alot of fun. Alot of the women were a great time. Things have changed and it is harder to find that now. 

 

It is when guys decide she is GF material, that the problems often start. A bargirl is good for fun and games, but rarely does she make a great GF, much less a spouse. Unless you are a guy who loves complications and alot of emotional baggage. Some damaged guys love that. 

[BritManToo]

10 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

It is when guys decide she is GF material, that the problems often start. A bargirl is good for fun and games, but rarely does she make a great GF, much less a spouse. Unless you are a guy who loves complications and alot of emotional baggage. Some damaged guys love that. 

I've always found them to be as worthwhile and trustworthy as any other woman, and they don't have as many 'headaches' when you want to bang 'em.

[Bday Prang]

On 5/5/2019 at 9:42 AM, sungod said:

Who in their right mind would shack up with a minger back in the home country?

somebody said Donald Trump,   I would say Tony Blair set the bar considerably lower

[VBF]

1 hour ago, spidermike007 said:

Even 10 or 15 years ago it was much different than now. How things have changed. Alot of those super hotties who were 1500 for all night, these days would get 6000 to 60,000 baht as a high priced escort. The internet is the culprit. It has given them infinitely more options. 

 

I never had an issue with paying for sex. I consider alot of bargirls to have more integrity than most Western women. You know what you are paying up front, instead of the endless dates, gifts, prizes and dinners to get to the $million prize. A short time, or a few days could be alot of fun. Alot of the women were a great time. Things have changed and it is harder to find that now. 

 

It is when guys decide she is GF material, that the problems often start. A bargirl is good for fun and games, but rarely does she make a great GF, much less a spouse. Unless you are a guy who loves complications and alot of emotional baggage. Some damaged guys love that. 

Spot on 👍 I would say that I know several exceptions to your last paragraph but that are in the minority (IMO)

Edited March 10 by VBF

[JimTripper]

The looks of women in the bars these days is not all that exciting, in fact it's downright depressing.

 

Add to the above seeing the blokes they have been with sitting around the bars. It becomes a hard sell and not something you need to do once you are old enough for that retirement visa.

 

It can be exciting looking in from another country, but let me tell you, it's mostly the expectation.

Edited March 10 by JimTripper

[connda]

On 5/5/2019 at 6:54 AM, rooster59 said:

Why would 50% of men still date a Thai bar girl?

By Dan Cheeseman in DEBATE LIFESTYLE BLOG

 

 

Never has a vote, since Brexit, been so divisive and its the hot topic in Thailand of bar girls. Take a look at the votes from my Facebook page for yourself, it is neck and neck.

 

On face value we are all flesh and blood right, so should it matter? Well I guess it comes down to your own perception on matters but also there needs to be a reality check here.

 

I have heard some expats define going with a bar girl not like prostitution but rather more akin to ‘renting a girlfriend’. If you were in Kings Cross London and go with a prostitute it is all about a quick transaction. You pay your money and you get sex. The dynamics can be slightly different in Thailand and you could stay with your ‘rented girlfriend’ for the duration of your holiday.

 

I always struggled with the idea of dating a bar girl, and I have to admit I have ‘been there, done that’ but was always uncomfortable with what I was doing. It was in my early years of living in Pattaya and all my friends had taken their girlfriends from the bars and I fooled myself into thinking this was the only way if you wanted to live over here. My circles back then were bar related and I had yet to find a job.

 

One comment to my poll seems to summarise the situation: “You can take the girl out of the bar but you can’t take the bar out of the girl”. Often the girl is tainted by other bar girl talk and they have an expectation for what they should be entitled to being in a ‘farang’ relationship. Paying a ‘retainer’ to the girl each month for starters, but remember my point on perception, some foreigners would defend it by saying you would look after a regular girlfriend in the same way. I cannot look at it in this way, the bar girl expects this money in order to stay with you, a normal girlfriend would be supportive of you.

 

The other thing I found nuts – and I am not talking about the ladyboys crown jewels – when dating a bar girl all those years back was telling lies to my friends and family. When asked how I met I certainly didn’t say she was a prostitute and that our first ‘date’ cost me one thousand baht! What if I went on to have children with her and my kids asked the same question of how we met?!

 

Full story: https://danaboutthailand.com/2019/05/02/why-would-50-of-men-still-date-a-thai-bar-girl/

 

 

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It the farang equivilant to a Thai guy's mia noi.  Basically a rent a gik, but with no strings attached unless you don't have the sense to not get involved.

[brewsterbudgen]

Define "date".   Surely, it means go out for dinner or a movie with a girl?  Or in the muddled world of some BMs, does it mean have sex with a prostitute but not pay her?

[Prubangboy]

Concerning the spot the orgasm question, I noticed that my wife's toes tend to clenched inward when I was doing my railing duty and took it as proof.

 

But then she told me:

 

"You forgot to let me take my pantyhose off"

[AlexRich]

17 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Define "date".   Surely, it means go out for dinner or a movie with a girl?  Or in the muddled world of some BMs, does it mean have sex with a prostitute but not pay her?

That’s “date rape”.

[FruitPudding]

Because......

 

1. Farang were never taught that some women are whores and should be treated as such.

 

2. They have no concept of social class and are willing to marry way below their own class.

 

3. They have white knight syndrome and want to save a Thai hoe

[FruitPudding]

In general, the West has conditioned men to not see the bad in any female; they are virtuous creatures that can do no wrong. There's really no concept of "a bad girl" in the West. You'd be a misogynist if you judged them negatively. 

 

In Thailand,  society sees women a bit more clearly; they are capable of sin (just like anyone else) and it isn't politically incorrect or socially unacceptable to blame them for their actions.

 

 

 

Edited March 11 by FruitPudding

[FruitPudding]

5 hours ago, AlexRich said:

That’s “date rape”.

 

I'd call it 'theft' of perhaps 'fraud' since the crime involved cheating someone out of payment. 

 

It's a financial crime, not a sexual one.

 

Definitely not rape. 

[actonion]

In my 23 years living in Thailand I have had  3 long term relationships, one was with a  bar lady who wanted for  next to nothing, and that was the best one, only her violent temper   was the cause  of me giving her the elbow, the other 2 office workers, had constant demands for money, cars , bikes, mood swings, family help $$$ etc... nothing wrong  with the right bar lady..

[thaibeachlovers]

22 hours ago, brewsterbudgen said:

Define "date".   Surely, it means go out for dinner or a movie with a girl?  Or in the muddled world of some BMs, does it mean have sex with a prostitute but not pay her?

IMO there is a lot of confusion about that. I always took it as a night out without sex at the end, but seems some regard it as always including sex. That might be because I was "dating" nice girls and back then nice girls didn't, without a ring involved.

[thaibeachlovers]

34 minutes ago, FruitPudding said:

In general, the West has conditioned men to not see the bad in any female; they are virtuous creatures that can do no wrong. There's really no concept of "a bad girl" in the West. You'd be a misogynist if you judged them negatively. 

 

In Thailand,  society sees women a bit more clearly; they are capable of sin (just like anyone else) and it isn't politically incorrect or socially unacceptable to blame them for their actions.

 

 

 

More than that, the west, IMO, has conditioned men to think of women as some sort of treasure that can only be won with many trinkets and baubles, usually of the diamond variety.

How many times do we see on tv shows and movies the man having to "win" her and promising to "make HER happy"? There is no onus on the woman to make the man happy in return, ergo it's perfectly acceptable for muggins to give her many worldly goods and for her to refuse to give him sex in return.

Also on movies, though mainly older American ones, it is often shown that a husband is delighted beyond words when his wife indicates that as he has been a good poodle boy she will do him the honour of allowing him to use it for a treat.

 

From many comments on AN and TVF before it, some farangs are still indoctrinated with the BS that a vagina is a great treasure and that men must make great sacrifices to be allowed to access it. LOL.

[FruitPudding]

7 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

From many comments on AN and TVF before it, some farangs are still indoctrinated with the BS that a vagina is a great treasure and that men must make great sacrifices to be allowed to access it. LOL.

 

Yes, and even more mindblowing: women seem to genuinely believe their hole has some kind of intrinsic value, too.

 

It is humorous that so many women base their entire value on their sex appeal 😳 like they literally have nothing else to offer.

[zakalwe]

Your Thai bar girl after you leave town...

 

 

[BritManToo]

1 hour ago, FruitPudding said:

Because......

 

1. Farang were never taught that some women are whores and should be treated as such.

 

2. They have no concept of social class and are willing to marry way below their own class.

 

3. They have white knight syndrome and want to save a Thai hoe

Most white foreigners I've met in Thailand were uneducated working class, from working class families.

Hard to see how they could marry beneath their own class.

[BritManToo]

4 minutes ago, FruitPudding said:

Yes, and even more mindblowing: women seem to genuinely believe their hole has some kind of intrinsic value, too.

I also believe that, and it's value is 500bht!

[FruitPudding]

4 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Most white foreigners I've met in Thailand were uneducated working class, from working class families.

Hard to see how they could marry beneath their own class.

 

Even the "uneducated" in the West are better educated that 99% of this country.

 

I am working class but I still studied at a top 20 school in my country simply due to living in a good postcode.

 

You really can't compare it to Isaan (and other rural Thai areas) which is basically 3rd world.

 

Edited March 11 by FruitPudding

[BenStark]

7 minutes ago, FruitPudding said:

es, and even more mindblowing: women seem to genuinely believe their hole has some kind of intrinsic value, too.

 

[FruitPudding]

2 minutes ago, BenStark said:

 

 

It's  true.

 

A Thai woman once told me, "My pussy gave me everything"

[BenStark]

1 minute ago, FruitPudding said:

 

It's  true.

 

A Thai woman once told me, "My pussy gave me everything"

 

It's the same the whole world around, not just Thailand, so guess who are the dumb ones?

[FruitPudding]

3 minutes ago, BenStark said:

 

It's the same the whole world around, not just Thailand, so guess who are the dumb ones?

 

Men are clearly dumber, but at least we don't base our entire worth on our piss hole or crap hole.

 

 

Edited March 11 by FruitPudding