Thanathorn says PM is the cause of Thailand’s political ills

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Thanathorn says PM is the cause of Thailand’s political ills

 

 

Future Forward party leader Thanathorn Juangroongruangkit has accused Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha of being the cause of political problems in Thailand, not the politicians who are being blamed by the Prime Minister.

 

He said today that the Prime Minister had accused politicians of stalling attempts to form the government and had threatened to resort to the “old method” to resolve the problems.

 

Thanathorn asked whether the “old method” meant another coup, adding that General Prayut did not deserve to lead the country if he retains the old mindset of resorting a coup just to resolve Palang Pracharat’s internal issues.

 

Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/thanathorn-says-pm-is-the-cause-of-thailands-political-ills/

 

 

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[dcnx]

He’s definitely on the short list.

[Chazar]

15 minutes ago, dcnx said:

He’s definitely on the short list.

more like the short 6 foot  under list

[YetAnother]

55 minutes ago, webfact said:

Future Forward party leader Thanathorn Juangroongruangkit has accused Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha of being the cause of political problems in Thailand,

i would invest on life insurance for him

[Thailand]

He does say the nicest things about P. That section 44 thing is still available is it not?

[chainarong]

To a certain degree Prayut is to blame, however, Political problems leads to social problems and like most countries these days Thailand has problems , one big problem for us here at TV is the immigration department.

Edited July 2, 2019 by chainarong

[mikebell]

'The old ways' is definitely a threat; get in line or there'll be another coup to stop this unseemly snuffling at the trough.  All career politicians will be replaced by career soldiers.

[Denim]

Disagree with Thanathorn on this one.

 

The root cause of all Thailand's political problems are the yellow shirted Muppets who give their fervant support to military coups when their party cannot win an election.

 

Were it not for these selfish morons the country could move forward since the military would not have a supporting power base within the population.

[geoffbezoz]

Not just the PM to blame after all, he is just an incompetent puppet.   Its those that supported him illegally gaining power initially that are more responsible.

[harada]

He's getting warmer.

[boonrawdcnx]

Thanathorn is absolutely right but Prayuth is only the top of the iceberg - his entire backward, through and through corrupt generation needs to die out before this country can move forward.

 

Prayuth must be shitting himself there is an outspoken young, intelligent new political superstar on the rise who does not give a damn about the outdated old guard who the two stooges Prayuth and Prawit represent.

In the meantime somebody is plotting against them behind their backs since more than one year now - just waiting for the order to remove them when the time is right.

 

 

 

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[Lenny Jones]

2 hours ago, dcnx said:

He’s definitely on the short list.

55555 ! - He will never see eye-to-eye with Tic Toc!

[Lenny Jones]

37 minutes ago, Denim said:

Disagree with Thanathorn on this one.

 

The root cause of all Thailand's political problems are the yellow shirted Muppets who give their fervant support to military coups when their party cannot win an election.

 

Were it not for these selfish morons the country could move forward since the military would not have a supporting power base within the population.

Hmmm - the blind yellow shirts remind me of a different colored shirt from another time - the brown shirts - - - -

[MRToMRT]

We'd all like to vote for the best man, but he's never a candidate.

[geoffbezoz]

15 minutes ago, Lenny Jones said:

Hmmm - the blind yellow shirts remind me of a different colored shirt from another time - the brown shirts - - - -

Thailands troubles started to develop even before their time I suspect.

[sammieuk1]

I would say he is absolutely right time the army turned its guns on its leaders for a new method ????

[30la]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

Future Forward party leader Thanathorn Juangroongruangkit has accused Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha of being the cause of political problems in Thailand, not the politicians who are being blamed by the Prime Minister.

All of you are guilty of the situation, none of you knows what democracy means!
Start thinking about all the mistakes you've made and still do and improve yourself before blaming others!

[Emdog]

PM is the visible tip of the iceberg. Without all the bulk below, the Titanic would have just brushed that tip aside.

[robblok]

I disagree with Thanathorn, its not only Prayut its the fact that most Thai politicians are in politics for their own gain and corruption is not combated in a meaningful way. As long as corruption is so wide spread politicians will do anything to get in power and get a seat at the feeding table of corruption.

 

The PTP and FFW acted just like Prayut and his mob by offering good ministeries to the Democrats and Bumjaithai. It was all based on greed.

 

I really hope Thanathorn gets a chance to prove himself in a government and show that he is not corrupt and really wants new clean politics. I see him as one of the few that could bring this country forward but not as long as the rest is corrupt. The interest of the politicians go before those of the people and until this changes there will be problems in this country. 

 

It is fun to see how Prayut gets attacked all the time.. too bad we havent seen him explode in anger.

[JonnyF]

7 minutes ago, robblok said:

I disagree with Thanathorn, its not only Prayut its the fact that most Thai politicians are in politics for their own gain and corruption is not combated in a meaningful way. As long as corruption is so wide spread politicians will do anything to get in power and get a seat at the feeding table of corruption.

 

The PTP and FFW acted just like Prayut and his mob by offering good ministeries to the Democrats and Bumjaithai. It was all based on greed.

 

I really hope Thanathorn gets a chance to prove himself in a government and show that he is not corrupt and really wants new clean politics. I see him as one of the few that could bring this country forward but not as long as the rest is corrupt. The interest of the politicians go before those of the people and until this changes there will be problems in this country. 

 

It is fun to see how Prayut gets attacked all the time.. too bad we havent seen him explode in anger.

But it's people like you who support the coup in the first place to get rid of politicians that you dislike. Then the democratic clock gets set to zero instead of allowing the Democracy to mature to the point that the electorate no longer vote for corrupt politicians, and allowing things to gradually start to improve.

 

Your only saving grace is that you are not Thai so you cannot vote. The Thais that share your view (that it's OK to support the Army seizing power if they are ousting a corrupt politician that they dislike) are the real cause, the yellow shirted muppets that Denim so accurately describes earlier in the thread.

[robblok]

4 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

But it's people like you who support the coup in the first place to get rid of politicians that you dislike. Then the democratic clock gets set to zero instead of allowing the Democracy to mature to the point that the electorate no longer vote for corrupt politicians, and allowing things to gradually start to improve.

 

Your only saving grace is that you are not Thai so you cannot vote. The Thais that share your view (that it's OK to support the Army seizing power if they are ousting a corrupt politician that they dislike) are the real cause, the yellow shirted muppets that Denim so accurately describes earlier in the thread.

I supported the coup that is right, but changed my mind after they did not leave. In the past they always did. If the PTP was less corrupt then there would never have been enough support to dislodge them. So you can say what you want basically corruption is the reason and to think that (for now with exception of FFW) the other politicians are not in it for themselves is laughable. 

 

Until the money is taken out of politics this will go on forever.

[wreckingcountry]

Keep it up young man ! Prayut was never a politician ! He is the dictator !The fake election was about him having some legitimisy with rest of the world!

 

 

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[Chang_paarp]

Prayut is learning what a true opposition is. It is part of politics.

[monkfish]

So those greedy ELECTED MP's aren't happy with clerical jobs they're being offered?
Better use 44 Whip and put them in their place.

[Eric Loh]

1 hour ago, robblok said:

I supported the coup that is right, but changed my mind after they did not leave. In the past they always did. If the PTP was less corrupt then there would never have been enough support to dislodge them. So you can say what you want basically corruption is the reason and to think that (for now with exception of FFW) the other politicians are not in it for themselves is laughable. 

 

Until the money is taken out of politics this will go on forever.

For all your good intention, money will never ever be taken out of politics in the past and in the future. Get over it. Corruption should never ever be the yardstick for democracy. Get over that too. 

 

Even squeaky clean Singapore has corruption in their politics and yes it involve money. Japan, South Korea too have serious political corruption and scandal. Democracy allows the people to have the empowerment to vote these corrupt people out or the independent justice system will bring these wrongdoers to rightful justice.

 

It will help Thailand get rid of corrupt political leaders if they can include in the constitution to limit the tenure of prime minister to 2 terms. I hope future constitution will include this clause as a way to end corrupt and power crazy leaders. 

[FarFlungFalang]

Simple rule:Nobody in the armed forces or police force can enter politics.

[londonthai]

the whole feudal system is rotten, multi billionaires pull the strings, prayuth is only a pawn in their hands and will be disposed, after the job done.

[robblok]

18 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

For all your good intention, money will never ever be taken out of politics in the past and in the future. Get over it. Corruption should never ever be the yardstick for democracy. Get over that too. 

 

Even squeaky clean Singapore has corruption in their politics and yes it involve money. Japan, South Korea too have serious political corruption and scandal. Democracy allows the people to have the empowerment to vote these corrupt people out or the independent justice system will bring these wrongdoers to rightful justice.

 

It will help Thailand get rid of corrupt political leaders if they can include in the constitution to limit the tenure of prime minister to 2 terms. I hope future constitution will include this clause as a way to end corrupt and power crazy leaders. 

Eric, that is your opinion.. you like to think this way because it justifies having corruption and scandals in the PTP and you can say but its ok to have it.

 

You seriously misunderstand how justice works its not about voting people who are corrupt out its about prosecuting them. Again something you don't like.

 

Lets agree to disagree because we both know you will never admit to how utterly corrupt the PTP is while at the same hand only point fingers to the utterly corrupt junta. Be a bit more balanced Eric it would do you good.

 

*edit* i do agree with the two terms.. 100% it would help.

Edited July 3, 2019 by robblok

[scorecard]

16 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

For all your good intention, money will never ever be taken out of politics in the past and in the future. Get over it. Corruption should never ever be the yardstick for democracy. Get over that too. 

 

Even squeaky clean Singapore has corruption in their politics and yes it involve money. Japan, South Korea too have serious political corruption and scandal. Democracy allows the people to have the empowerment to vote these corrupt people out or the independent justice system will bring these wrongdoers to rightful justice.

 

It will help Thailand get rid of corrupt political leaders if they can include in the constitution to limit the tenure of prime minister to 2 terms. I hope future constitution will include this clause as a way to end corrupt and power crazy leaders. 

 

What your really saying is that corruption is OK. Or corruption is difficult to reduce / stop so forget about it.

Why am I not surprised?

 

 

[Eric Loh]

4 minutes ago, robblok said:

Eric, that is your opinion.. you like to think this way because it justifies having corruption and scandals in the PTP and you can say but its ok to have it.

 

You seriously misunderstand how justice works its not about voting people who are corrupt out its about prosecuting them. Again something you don't like.

 

Lets agree to disagree because we both know you will never admit to how utterly corrupt the PTP is while at the same hand only point fingers to the utterly corrupt junta. Be a bit more balanced Eric it would do you good.

 

*edit* i do agree with the two terms.. 100% it would help.

That's a big diversion from what I posted. Never mind, I don't wish to be drawn into a tedious discursive malarkey with you or your sidekicks.