U.S. House to launch Trump impeachment inquiry over Ukraine controversy

[Dumbastheycome]

10 minutes ago, 4675636b596f75 said:

Sure did.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trumps-ukraine-call-transcript-read-the-document

 

Show me the smoking gun.  That's a challenge to anyone.

 

Stop the crickets.  Show me the proof.

 

Where's the beef?

 

 

https://qz.com/1717869/why-its-wrong-to-call-the-white-house-ukraine-memo-a-transcript/

[stevenl]

3 minutes ago, roobaa01 said:

yes he mocked creep show dem highly decorated danang harry alias blumenthal after he threw tantrums at the president on tv ....that the impeachment "nothing burger" would stuck....

 

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roobaa01

English please.

[Dumbastheycome]

But  I am  confident that a genuine  transcript could  be made available. In these times  there is not  even the  fart of a gnat that is  not automatically stored if makes passage on the  internet.

[Dumbastheycome]

Now  what if a  transcript  of that call  surfaces  from the  Ukrainian  end?  lmao

 

[Jingthing]

15 minutes ago, canuckamuck said:

Isn't every presidential candidate incredibly motivated to win? 

Not to stay out of prison. 

[Dumbastheycome]

It will not of course. Funding to support the cause  for raucous  laughter from  a comedian may echo  down the halls  of history.

[Becker]

51 minutes ago, 4675636b596f75 said:

If you refer to John McCain, he too is no patriot.  He peed on the country and the constitutions.

 

Try again.

Suuuure. And when did Trump discover his patriotism? Was it shortly after he dodged the draft?

[chokrai]

AOC is on top of this whole impeachment thing so it should go pretty smoothly. What a train wreck the Democrats are, with the usual merry band of fools gobbling it all up. They are too stupid to understand that they have to live with the results. 

[4675636b596f75]

43 minutes ago, chokrai said:

AOC is on top of this whole impeachment thing so it should go pretty smoothly. What a train wreck the Democrats are, with the usual merry band of fools gobbling it all up. They are too stupid to understand that they have to live with the results. 

Stupid is as stupid does .....

[4675636b596f75]

2 hours ago, Becker said:

Suuuure. And when did Trump discover his patriotism? Was it shortly after he dodged the draft?

When did John McCain lose his?

[Dumbastheycome]

Dang !  Somethin  done fell of the  page here !  I  done  be  notified  of a  re sponse  that  just  ain't here  and  no mention  about  it ! Did  I  juss  get  Trumped ?

Guess I  gotta  go wit the flow  and  blame them there  Taliban  or  Ranians  or  somethin !

[Becker]

58 minutes ago, 4675636b596f75 said:

When did John McCain lose his?

Classy. Defend a traitor and draft dodger by insulting a decorated veteran. 

You have so much in common with Trump.

[heybruce]

6 hours ago, 4675636b596f75 said:

The transcript of the call is online. 

 

Show me the words of President Trump that show pressure.

 

I'll wait, but in the meantime, all I hear is the sound of crickets.

The pressure began before the phone call, when Trump froze congressionally approved military aid to Ukraine and sent Giuliani to meet with Ukrainian officials to make it clear that Trump wanted Biden investigated.  Then, during the phone call, after President Zelinski said:

 

"I would also like to thank you for your great support in the area of defense. We are ready to continue to cooperate for the next steps specifically we are almost ready to buy more Javelins from the United States for defense purposes."

 

Trump replied with:

 

"I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it."

 

There was no further discussion of military aid, only Trump explaining what he wanted Zelinski to do.

[heybruce]

7 hours ago, 4675636b596f75 said:

An American.  A patriotic American.  

Really?  Do you think patriotism is all about flag hugging, or defending the constitution and the institutions that keep the United States a democratic republic?

6 hours ago, 4675636b596f75 said:

I'll bet you are one of those people who think the Constitution gives you the right of free speech, or the right to bear arms.

 

Am I correct?

It's not the topic, but I'm very much in favor of free speech, with minimal restrictions to prevent slander or provoke violence, and the right to bear arms, with reasonable restrictions to keep dangerous weapons out of the hands of dangerously incompetent people.

 

I assume you know something about Thailand.  I assume you know that after the 2014 coup Prayuth went to great lengths to restrict free speech, free press, and the right of people to assemble; our most important First Amendment rights.  He took no steps to restrict civilian ownership of guns.

 

Tyrants don't fear armed civilians, they fear informed civilians.  The Second Amendment is not our defense against tyranny, the First Amendment is.  That is why it is dangerous when President Trump calls the press the enemy of the people.  Terribly unpatriotic, don't you think?

[heybruce]

4 hours ago, 4675636b596f75 said:

If you refer to John McCain, he too is no patriot.  He peed on the country and the constitutions.

 

Try again.

Way off topic, and a contemptible lie.

[4675636b596f75]

35 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Really?  Do you think patriotism is all about flag hugging, or defending the constitution and the institutions that keep the United States a democratic republic?

It's not the topic, but I'm very much in favor of free speech, with minimal restrictions to prevent slander or provoke violence, and the right to bear arms, with reasonable restrictions to keep dangerous weapons out of the hands of dangerously incompetent people.

 

I assume you know something about Thailand.  I assume you know that after the 2014 coup Prayuth went to great lengths to restrict free speech, free press, and the right of people to assemble; our most important First Amendment rights.  He took no steps to restrict civilian ownership of guns.

 

Tyrants don't fear armed civilians, they fear informed civilians.  The Second Amendment is not our defense against tyranny, the First Amendment is.  That is why it is dangerous when President Trump calls the press the enemy of the people.  Terribly unpatriotic, don't you think?

So you would agree that the 1st Amendment gives you permission of free speech?

[4675636b596f75]

33 minutes ago, heybruce said:

Way off topic, and a contemptible lie.

For you, John McCain can do anything, so long as he is a war hero?  So long as he was a prisoner of war?  He could do no wrong?

[White Christmas13]

OK this is just a opinion of Australian  voters yes I know it might be  not be

the American voters

[4675636b596f75]

5 minutes ago, White Christmas13 said:

OK this is just a opinion of Australian  voters yes I know it might be  not be

the American voters

Why do Americans care what Australians think?  Most people foreign to the USA have no information except negative information.  Apparently they like to be spoon fed nonsense which they then take as fact.  

 

No wonder they lost their guns.

[White Christmas13]

6 minutes ago, 4675636b596f75 said:

Why do Americans care what Australians think?  Most people foreign to the USA have no information except negative information.  Apparently they like to be spoon fed nonsense which they then take as fact.  

 

No wonder they lost their guns.

Explain

[heybruce]

1 hour ago, 4675636b596f75 said:

So you would agree that the 1st Amendment gives you permission of free speech?

Did you not read my post?  Is it unclear that I understand and support the First Amendment as our first defense against tyranny?  Must I post the first amendment and underline the part about freedom of speech?

 

Or are you deflecting?

[heybruce]

1 hour ago, 4675636b596f75 said:

For you, John McCain can do anything, so long as he is a war hero?  So long as he was a prisoner of war?  He could do no wrong?

Try dealing with the reality in front of you, not the reality you imagine.

 

I never posted that John McCain can do anything.  I disagreed with McCain on many things.  But I respect his service and sacrifice.  Trump knows nothing about service and sacrifice.

[heybruce]

1 hour ago, 4675636b596f75 said:

Don't forget, they puke on the US and State Constitutions.

Care to give specific examples?

[Scott]

Off-topic posts and replies removed.  

 

[chokrai]

7 hours ago, White Christmas13 said:

OK this is just a opinion of Australian  voters yes I know it might be  not be

the American voters

I think that Canadians would vote the same way. Shows how far down the rathole of socialism they are. 

[canuckamuck]

6 minutes ago, chokrai said:

I think that Canadians would vote the same way. Shows how far down the rathole of socialism they are. 

It shows that Australia has no access to unbiased news. Same thing in Canada. Most of my Aussie friends have Trump derangement syndrome pretty bad. 

I think we are over the tipping point now. The Greta rallies, the thousand genders, The collapse of Britain's political system, the war on European culture, Social media silencing of conservatives. Universities with zero conservative professors. American Polarization.

I have a slight hope for generation Z to embrace conservatism as a counter culture. But it is not much of a hope. 

[Becker]

1 hour ago, chokrai said:

I think that Canadians would vote the same way. Shows how far down the rathole of socialism they are. 

Alright then, looks like the Americans are following them down there:

 

Poll: Majority of Americans say impeachment inquiry into Trump is necessary

[roobaa01]

12 hours ago, heybruce said:

Really?  Do you think patriotism is all about flag hugging, or defending the constitution and the institutions that keep the United States a democratic republic?

It's not the topic, but I'm very much in favor of free speech, with minimal restrictions to prevent slander or provoke violence, and the right to bear arms, with reasonable restrictions to keep dangerous weapons out of the hands of dangerously incompetent people.

 

I assume you know something about Thailand.  I assume you know that after the 2014 coup Prayuth went to great lengths to restrict free speech, free press, and the right of people to assemble; our most important First Amendment rights.  He took no steps to restrict civilian ownership of guns.

 

Tyrants don't fear armed civilians, they fear informed civilians.  The Second Amendment is not our defense against tyranny, the First Amendment is.  That is why it is dangerous when President Trump calls the press the enemy of the people.  Terribly unpatriotic, don't you think?

the us fakenews media mob wapo, ny times , cnn, msnbc, nbc etc is the most dangerous thing as their fake news coverage of the russion trump campaign collusion delusion for 2.5 yrs speaks for itsself and now the new ukrain impeachment collusion delusion. with a non-whistleblower hearsay complaint , wasn't that 2 weeks before the hearsay complaint came out, rules were changed mysteriously to protect now secondhand whistleblowers ??? hasn't the non-whistleblower source with firsthand knowledge spied upon the president ???

 

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[roobaa01]

11 hours ago, White Christmas13 said:

OK this is just a opinion of Australian  voters yes I know it might be  not be

the American voters

are most of these australians cnn, msnbc watchers ???

 

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roobaa01

[4675636b596f75]

2 hours ago, Becker said:

Alright then, looks like the Americans are following them down there:

 

Poll: Majority of Americans say impeachment inquiry into Trump is necessary

Stupid and ignorant Americans.