U.S. House to launch Trump impeachment inquiry over Ukraine controversy

[4675636b596f75]

29 minutes ago, Sujo said:

It is already brighter with the impeachment investigation. ????

There is no official investigation.  It's a ruse perpetrated by mutinous and cretinous House Democrats.  The Boomerang effect is already manifesting.

 

They will not succeed with the current coup attempt.

[Becker]

33 minutes ago, Sujo said:

It is already brighter with the impeachment investigation. ????

 

5 minutes ago, RideJocky said:

 

Oh, did Nancy call the vote?

 

The impeachment investigation is already in full swing. Sorry to burst your bubble.

 

Nancy Pelosi has put the Trump impeachment inquiry on a fast track. Here's the plan, timeline and key players

 

Trump impeachment investigation: Here is what will happen this week

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Becker]

7 minutes ago, 4675636b596f75 said:

There is no official investigation.  It's a ruse perpetrated by mutinous and cretinous House Democrats.  The Boomerang effect is already manifesting.

 

They will not succeed with the current coup attempt.

Another one that needs to take a look at the post above.

But, by all means, do keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel any better.

[RideJocky]

The impeachment investigation is already in full swing. Sorry to burst your bubble.
 
Nancy Pelosi has put the Trump impeachment inquiry on a fast track. Here's the plan, timeline and key players
 
Trump impeachment investigation: Here is what will happen this week
 
 
 
 
 
 

So she didn’t call a vote, and you post links to a couple opinion pieces.

Oh, my bubble is soooooo bursted.

[candide]

1 hour ago, 4675636b596f75 said:

I can.  Biden's machine has been scouring media telling them not to have Rudy Giuliani on their broadcasts.  

 

We can leave it there.  

 

Unless you want to argue the definition of "is."

It's more likely that Trump or his entourage has told him to shut up. He has not really helped Trump during his interviews (understatement).

Edited October 8, 2019 by candide

[Jingthing]

Oh, did Nancy call the vote?

No. So what?
Even 45 already knows he will be impeached.

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[4675636b596f75]

20 minutes ago, Becker said:

 

The impeachment investigation is already in full swing. Sorry to burst your bubble.

 

Nancy Pelosi has put the Trump impeachment inquiry on a fast track. Here's the plan, timeline and key players

 

Trump impeachment investigation: Here is what will happen this week

 

 

 

 

 

 

Until it is put to a full House vote, it isn't an impeachment.  Chew on that for a while.  

[Becker]

11 minutes ago, 4675636b596f75 said:

Until it is put to a full House vote, it isn't an impeachment.  Chew on that for a while.  

Do you have a problem understanding the word "investigation"? If the answer is yes then Google can probably help you out.

 

Here's another thread running on TVF:

 

Democrats subpoena Pentagon, White House budget office in impeachment probe

 

Maybe the use of the term "probe" makes it more understandable for you?

Edited October 8, 2019 by Becker

[4675636b596f75]

5 minutes ago, Becker said:

Do you have a problem understanding the word "investigation"?

There you go, it's not real.  No more real than Mueller.  No more real than all the nonsense with Schiff and Nadler.  

 

It's all designed to keep the cretins yapping and cheering.

 

Bread and Circus.

 

Look that up.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[4675636b596f75]

7 minutes ago, Becker said:

Democrats subpoena Pentagon, White House budget office in impeachment probe

Until they take a House vote, they have no legal credibility to subpoena anything related to impeachment.

[mtls2005]

1 hour ago, 4675636b596f75 said:

There is no official investigation.

 

Correct. Congress is in recess. A formal vote cannot be held.

 

1 hour ago, 4675636b596f75 said:

They will not succeed with the current coup attempt.

Stop being dramatic. This isn't a coup. Do you even know what a "coup" is?

 

18 minutes ago, 4675636b596f75 said:

Until they take a House vote, they have no legal credibility to subpoena anything related to impeachment.

So once a vote is taken you're on-board with full compliance on subpoenas, witnesses, etc? Or will there be some new excuse?

 

21 minutes ago, 4675636b596f75 said:

It's all designed to keep the cretins yapping and cheering.

Who's yapping and cheering? Impeachment is a serious matter, one which most Americans probably wish wasn't necessary. No one is celebrating this moment in history.

 

22 minutes ago, 4675636b596f75 said:

Bread and Circus.

Not sure how relevant this is? In fact, the current situation is almost the exact opposite. This isn't a game, or a diversion, it's about public service, right & wrong and the rule of law.

 

 

[Becker]

22 minutes ago, 4675636b596f75 said:

There you go, it's not real.  No more real than Mueller.  No more real than all the nonsense with Schiff and Nadler.  

 

It's all designed to keep the cretins yapping and cheering.

 

Bread and Circus.

 

Look that up.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mueller is actually a real person, a real person and a decorated war veteran who did no slink away when his country called upon him to do his duty.

Don't you know this already?

 

Oh, and I don't need to look up "bread and circus". It's one of the few things Trump is good at and it's hilarious to watch his base supporters' heads spin left and right every time he pulls yet another "No, don't look here, look there!" out of his ample behind.

[heybruce]

2 hours ago, 4675636b596f75 said:

I can.  Biden's machine has been scouring media telling them not to have Rudy Giuliani on their broadcasts.  

 

We can leave it there.  

 

Unless you want to argue the definition of "is."

I have trouble believing that.  Every time Giuliani appears on TV he makes himself look like an idiot and Trump look guilty.  However if you give me your sources for your claim and I'll comment.

 

Unless you want to argue the definition of "source".

[heybruce]

1 hour ago, 4675636b596f75 said:

There is no official investigation.  It's a ruse perpetrated by mutinous and cretinous House Democrats.  The Boomerang effect is already manifesting.

 

They will not succeed with the current coup attempt.

Using the Constitution to remove the President is not a coup.  Doing so after the President abused his power and misused taxpayer money to press a foreign government for election help is not mutinous or cretinous (I'm not sure you know the meaning of either word).

 

Try to grasp this aspect of US government:  The President is not above the law.  He can be legally removed from office.  He was not elected to be king.

[heybruce]

56 minutes ago, 4675636b596f75 said:

Until it is put to a full House vote, it isn't an impeachment.  Chew on that for a while.  

No, that's why it is being called an impeachment investigation.  Is English your first language?

[heybruce]

40 minutes ago, 4675636b596f75 said:

Until they take a House vote, they have no legal credibility to subpoena anything related to impeachment.

What law or section of the Constitution do you base that claim on?

[Slip]

5 minutes ago, heybruce said:

What law or section of the Constitution do you base that claim on?

heybruce, you always post well thought out ideas and support them with evidence on these matters, but you do realise that you're playing chess with a pigeon here surely?

[GroveHillWanderer]

34 minutes ago, 4675636b596f75 said:

Until they take a House vote, they have no legal credibility to subpoena anything related to impeachment.

I think you need to look up how the impeachment process works. At the Federal level, impeachment is a 3-step process.

 

First, the Congress investigates. Typically, this begins in the House of Representatives Judiciary Committee, but may begin elsewhere. For instance, In the the Clinton impeachment, the investigation was carried out by Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr (as a byproduct of his Whitewater investigation).

 

Second, the House of Representatives must pass articles of impeachment by a holding a vote. 

 

Third, the Senate tries the accused. 

 

We're still in the first phase, the investigation. A vote isn't required until the second stage.

[Tippaporn]

Rep. Mark Meadows:

 

There's a reason why Adam Schiff released cherry-picked text messages and not the transcript of the Volker interview. It's because he's misleading. Again. The actual interview directly undermined Democrats' impeachment effort. Release the transcript. Show Americans the truth.

 

Adam Schiff has to date refused to release the full transcript of Volker's testimony.  Why?  And why was the interview held behind closed doors?  To be sure, there's a strategy Schiff is employing and it's not to the people's benefit.

[Tippaporn]

18 minutes ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

I think you need to look up how the impeachment process works. At the Federal level, impeachment is a 3-step process.

 

First, the Congress investigates. Typically, this begins in the House of Representatives Judiciary Committee, but may begin elsewhere. For instance, In the the Clinton impeachment, the investigation was carried out by Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr (as a byproduct of his Whitewater investigation).

 

Second, the House of Representatives must pass articles of impeachment by a holding a vote. 

 

Third, the Senate tries the accused. 

 

We're still in the first phase, the investigation. A vote isn't required until the second stage.

A vote isn't required but this is the first time in history that a vote hasn't been taken.  Why?  I don't believe the answer is a good one.

[Slip]

11 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Rep. Mark Meadows:

 

There's a reason why Adam Schiff released cherry-picked text messages and not the transcript of the Volker interview. It's because he's misleading. Again. The actual interview directly undermined Democrats' impeachment effort. Release the transcript. Show Americans the truth.

 

Adam Schiff has to date refused to release the full transcript of Volker's testimony.  Why?  And why was the interview held behind closed doors?  To be sure, there's a strategy Schiff is employing and it's not to the people's benefit.

What nonsense is this?  If it benefits Trump to release the transcript in full, what is to stop him?

[Tippaporn]

3 minutes ago, Slip said:

What nonsense is this?  If it benefits Trump to release the transcript in full, what is to stop him?

Don't understand your question.

 

Schiff is not releasing the full transcript of Volker's testimony.  It's been said by some republican members that Volker's testimony would drive a stake into the heart of Schiff's impeachment dream.

[stevenl]

17 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

Don't understand your question.

 

Schiff is not releasing the full transcript of Volker's testimony.  It's been said by some republican members that Volker's testimony would drive a stake into the heart of Schiff's impeachment dream.

Hmm, maybe time to release the full transcript of Trump's phonecall first?

[Jingthing]

State department blocks testimony of EU ambassador. 45 calls house investigation a kangaroo court. It isn't any ki. D of court. Add to the article that will definitely be included as one of multiple articles - - Obstruction of Congress.

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[rabas]

1 hour ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

I think you need to look up how the impeachment process works. At the Federal level, impeachment is a 3-step process.

 

First, the Congress investigates. Typically, this begins in the House of Representatives Judiciary Committee, but may begin elsewhere. For instance, In the the Clinton impeachment, the investigation was carried out by Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr (as a byproduct of his Whitewater investigation).

 

Second, the House of Representatives must pass articles of impeachment by a holding a vote. 

 

Third, the Senate tries the accused. 

 

We're still in the first phase, the investigation. A vote isn't required until the second stage.

 

Cut and paste from the internet, this is not the vote that is being discussed. Congress has a lot of working rules in addition to the constitution. Disregard of these rules eventually backfired and led to a Supreme Court that will lean right for decades.  

 

Now again the Democrats are throwing caution to the wind and it may backfire again. I think they should try to do things the right way. Trump will pump them into a frenzy, the Dept of Justice just ordered U.S. ambassador to the European Union, Sondland, not to  attend this morning's scheduled deposition before the House. Schiff must have gone ballistic.

 

[Tippaporn]

6 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Hmm, maybe time to release the full transcript of Trump's phonecall first?

Ah, so you guys do believe in conspiracy theories yourselves.  Posts should be removed as posters are deliberately promoting the conspiracy theory, as no evidence exists, that Trump and the White House did not release the full transcript of the July 25 phone call.

[Tippaporn]

7 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

State department blocks testimony of EU ambassador. 45 calls house investigation a kangaroo court. It isn't any ki. D of court. Add to the article that will definitely be included as one of multiple articles - - Obstruction of Congress.

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Until the Dems play by the rules it ain't no impeachment inquiry.  Trump is forcing the hand of the dirty Dems.  Rightfully so.  Dems are using a play out of the Mueller investigation.  If you can't nail him to the wall with an actual crime get him on obstruction.  And that is why they're using that language in the letters they've been sending out.  Just another dirty Dem tactic.

 

No worries.  They will fail.

Edited October 8, 2019 by Tippaporn

[Tippaporn]

7 minutes ago, rabas said:

 

Cut and paste from the internet, this is not the vote that is being discussed. Congress has a lot of working rules in addition to the constitution. Disregard of these rules eventually backfired and led to a Supreme Court that will lean right for decades.  

 

Now again the Democrats are throwing caution to the wind and it may backfire again. I think they should try to do things the right way. Trump will pump them into a frenzy, the Dept of Justice just ordered U.S. ambassador to the European Union, Sondland, not to  attend this morning's scheduled deposition before the House. Schiff must have gone ballistic.

 

And if you've noticed, all of the depositions they've taken have been behind close doors so the public cannot know what transpires.  The ones last week were conducted in SCIFs no less.  The Dems refuse to be transparent.

[bristolboy]

20 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

State department blocks testimony of EU ambassador. 45 calls house investigation a kangaroo court. It isn't any ki. D of court. Add to the article that will definitely be included as one of multiple articles - - Obstruction of Congress.

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And Trump stupidly undermines his case for not allowing Sondland to testify:

CBS News contributor Jonathan Turley said that Mr. Trump's opposition to Sondland testifying before the committee undermined claims of executive privilege. Mr. Trump said that Sondland was barred from testifying because it would be in front of a "a totally compromised kangaroo court."

 

As executive privilege is based on protecting confidential communications and diplomatic relations, and Mr. Trump seems to be saying is that he simply does not trust the Committee, this is not a ground for refusal if a subpoena is now issued.

https://www.cbsnews.com/live-news/trump-impeachment-inquiry-latest-dem-steps-to-protect-whistleblower-live-updates-2019-10-08/

[Slip]

24 minutes ago, rabas said:

 

Cut and paste from the internet,

<snip for brevity>

Demonstrably not cut and pasted from the internet...

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