U.S. appeals court blocks release of unredacted Mueller report pending appeal

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U.S. appeals court blocks release of unredacted Mueller report pending appeal

 

FILE PHOTO: Former Special Counsel Robert Mueller departs from the U.S. Capitol following his testimonies before the House of Representatives, on Capitol Hill in Washington, U.S. July 24, 2019. REUTERS/Tom Brenner/File Photo

 

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A U.S. appeals court on Tuesday issued a stay that blocks the release to a congressional committee of an unredacted copy of former Special Counsel Robert Mueller's report detailing Russian meddling in the 2016 U.S. election.

 

U.S. District Judge Beryl Howell on Friday ordered President Donald Trump's administration to hand over by Wednesday a copy of the Mueller report that included material that had been blacked out.

 

The Justice Department requested the stay by the Court of Appeals in Washington while it appeals Howell's ruling.

 

The department is trying to block Democrats from accessing the full Mueller report on the grounds that doing so would require the disclosure of secret grand jury materials and potentially harm ongoing investigations.

 

The U.S. House of Representatives Judiciary Committee issued a subpoena seeking the full report as part of Democrats' effort to build a case for removing Trump from office through impeachment.

 

Mueller submitted his report to U.S. Attorney General William Barr in March after completing a 22-month investigation that detailed Russia's campaign of hacking and propaganda to boost Trump's candidacy in the 2016 election as well as extensive contacts between Trump's campaign and Moscow.

 

Barr, a Trump appointee who Democrats have accused of trying to protect the president politically, released the 448-page report in April with some parts redacted.

 

The House impeachment inquiry centres not on the findings of the Mueller report but on Trump's request that Ukraine investigate a domestic political rival, former Vice President Joe Biden. House Democrats have described that as an improper solicitation of foreign interference in a U.S. election.

 

In her ruling on Friday, Howell also said the House need not pass a resolution formally initiating its impeachment inquiry, undercutting an argument that Trump's fellow Republicans have made in attacking the probe.

 

Democrats began the inquiry without putting such a resolution to a vote, but on Tuesday they unveiled legislation laying out procedures for the probe that could be voted on a early as this week.

 

(Reporting by Eric Beech; Editing by Sonya Hepinstall)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2019-10-30

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[TopDeadSenter]

quote "Russian meddling in the 2016 U.S. election"

 

 I cringe whenever I see this. It is just so beyond ridiculous that the losers of 2016 blame their defeat on Russians and collusion with Russians. That the wild conspiracy was based on actions by never-Trumpers Page, Strzok, Comey, Clapper, Obama et al increases the bizarro factor several fold. And to think this was headline news on CNN and MSNBC for nearly 3 years before collapsing into a pile of you-know-what. I suppose this being brought up again is just another nail in the dems coffin heading into the 2020 election.

[stevenl]

4 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

quote "Russian meddling in the 2016 U.S. election"

 

 I cringe whenever I see this. It is just so beyond ridiculous that the losers of 2016 blame their defeat on Russians and collusion with Russians. That the wild conspiracy was based on actions by never-Trumpers Page, Strzok, Comey, Clapper, Obama et al increases the bizarro factor several fold. And to think this was headline news on CNN and MSNBC for nearly 3 years before collapsing into a pile of you-know-what. I suppose this being brought up again is just another nail in the dems coffin heading into the 2020 election.

You do realise Russian meddling has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt. See statements from democrats, republicans, cia, FBI, nsa, all under trump appointed leadership.

 

So I and I'm sure others as well cringe whenever I see a statement like yours, totally based on fake news and fake beliefs.

Edited October 30, 2019 by stevenl

[keith101]

30 minutes ago, stevenl said:

So I and I'm sure others as well cringe whenever I see a statement like yours, totally based on fake news and fake beliefs.

Thanks could not have said any better stupid statements from s####d people . 

[Tug]

He is a troll no more no less always trying to get a reaction,yes trumps team is attempting another obstruction delay tactic hopefully it’s flushed down soon and access allowed 

[Eric Loh]

1 hour ago, TopDeadSenter said:

quote "Russian meddling in the 2016 U.S. election"

 

 I cringe whenever I see this. It is just so beyond ridiculous that the losers of 2016 blame their defeat on Russians and collusion with Russians. That the wild conspiracy was based on actions by never-Trumpers Page, Strzok, Comey, Clapper, Obama et al increases the bizarro factor several fold. And to think this was headline news on CNN and MSNBC for nearly 3 years before collapsing into a pile of you-know-what. I suppose this being brought up again is just another nail in the dems coffin heading into the 2020 election.

If it was a wild conspiracy as you foolishly try to defend,  why the Herculean effort to stop the release of the full Muller report. Just release the report and clear all the accusations. What’s there to hid if Trump was indeed innocent of collusion with the Russia to meddle in the 2016 election. 

[Misty]

1 hour ago, stevenl said:

You do realise Russian meddling has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt. See statements from democrats, republicans, cia, FBI, nsa, all under trump appointed leadership.

 

So I and I'm sure others as well cringe whenever I see a statement like yours, totally based on fake news and fake beliefs.

I've concluded that there are a number of posters in these forums who have different motives from perhaps most of us.

 

For example, my guess is most of us want to understand reality.  Some of these other posters seem to want to distort reality.

 

Why they want to do this makes an interesting discussion. But they may not believe their own disinformation.

[canuckamuck]

13 minutes ago, Misty said:

I've concluded that there are a number of posters in these forums who have different motives from perhaps most of us.

 

For example, my guess is most of us want to understand reality.  Some of these other posters seem to want to distort reality.

 

Why they want to do this makes an interesting discussion. But they may not believe their own disinformation.

The reality is that there is disinformation on both sides. This is the state of affairs now. Very hard to know what is true.

[stevenl]

9 minutes ago, canuckamuck said:

The reality is that there is disinformation on both sides. This is the state of affairs now. Very hard to know what is true.

Sorry, no.  Disinformation is coming from the Trump side.aybe some from the liberals, but there people care about it, the Trump camp doesn't care about truth anymore.

[canuckamuck]

It is amazing that you can think that one side is being truthful and the other is entirely untruthful. What sort of world do you live in?  You don't think politicians on the left ever lie, or the mainstream media doesn't manipulate the news?

Until you gain some skepticism, you are just going to be a pawn.

 

[Chomper Higgot]

15 minutes ago, canuckamuck said:

The reality is that there is disinformation on both sides. This is the state of affairs now. Very hard to know what is true.

Release of the unredacted report and supporting evidence will provide the means for people to see for themselves what is and is not ‘disinfirmation’.

[Tug]

17 minutes ago, canuckamuck said:

The reality is that there is disinformation on both sides. This is the state of affairs now. Very hard to know what is true.

Not in this case it’s beyond easy

[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, canuckamuck said:

It is amazing that you can think that one side is being truthful and the other is entirely untruthful. What sort of world do you live in?  You don't think politicians on the left ever lie, or the mainstream media doesn't manipulate the news?

Until you gain some skepticism, you are just going to be a pawn.

 

Until we get our hands on the full unredacted report.

 

Meanwhile continue your ‘both sides are as bad as each other’ if it gives you comfort.

[Misty]

9 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Sorry, no.  Disinformation is coming from the Trump side.aybe some from the liberals, but there people care about it, the Trump camp doesn't care about truth anymore.

A lot of disinformation also funded from groups/entities outside the US.

[riclag]

5 minutes ago, canuckamuck said:

The reality is that there is disinformation on both sides. This is the state of affairs now. Very hard to know what is true.

 I read recently that when both parties can't come to a agreement through committee their differences are decided by the court process,  everything is gonna go to the Supreme court !

[stevenl]

24 minutes ago, canuckamuck said:

It is amazing that you can think that one side is being truthful and the other is entirely untruthful. What sort of world do you live in?  You don't think politicians on the left ever lie, or the mainstream media doesn't manipulate the news?

Until you gain some skepticism, you are just going to be a pawn.

 

As I said, the main thing is that one side cares about the news and facts, the other side does not. Hard, proven facts are simply dismissed as fake news by Trump, and his followers don't care.

[Nyezhov]

2 hours ago, stevenl said:

You do realise Russian meddling has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

That's a specific term of art. Got something to show that true?

[TopDeadSenter]

1 hour ago, Tug said:

He is a troll no more no less always trying to get a reaction,yes trumps team is attempting another obstruction delay tactic hopefully it’s flushed down soon and access allowed 

OK, well I stand corrected by the experts here. I was (mistakenly) under the impression in the USA and throughout the civilized world that people are presumed innocent unless convicted in a court of law. I see now that when people irrationally hate somebody enough then the victim of their hatred and bile are automatically guilty of any and all presumed charges.

 

 BTW calling somebody you disagree with a troll and offering no sensible argument to counter the facts presented, IS trolling. 

[Thomas J]

2 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

quote "Russian meddling in the 2016 U.S. election"

Never proven that Russia had any "meaningful" impact on the election nor if it swayed any votes to Trump or Clinton.  However the Democrats steadfastly take steps to knowingly have ILLEGALS who are not citizens vote.  I guess if the vote potentially favors Trump you are against it but if foreigners support Democrats thats ok. 

[bristolboy]

1 hour ago, Misty said:

A lot of disinformation also funded from groups/entities outside the US.

Well, as the bipartisan Senate committee found, it's the Russians.

[bristolboy]

1 hour ago, Thomas J said:

Never proven that Russia had any "meaningful" impact on the election nor if it swayed any votes to Trump or Clinton.  However the Democrats steadfastly take steps to knowingly have ILLEGALS who are not citizens vote.  I guess if the vote potentially favors Trump you are against it but if foreigners support Democrats thats ok. 

5 states that had Republican governors and entirely republican legislatures conducted massive investigations to uncover the kind of voter fraud you claim exists. They found virtually nothing.

[Becker]

1 hour ago, Thomas J said:

Never proven that Russia had any "meaningful" impact on the election nor if it swayed any votes to Trump or Clinton.  However the Democrats steadfastly take steps to knowingly have ILLEGALS who are not citizens vote.  I guess if the vote potentially favors Trump you are against it but if foreigners support Democrats thats ok. 

Do you know how profoundly lame it is to regurgitate the same nutty right talking points when they have been so thoroughly and completely debunked?

Apparently not.

[Becker]

1 hour ago, Nyezhov said:

That's a specific term of art. Got something to show that true?

A unanimous intelligence community as well as the GOP-lead Senate Intelligence Committee concluded that the Russians did indeed meddle in the election in support of Trump so instead of these silly "show me the proof" posts why don't you base Trump supporters tell us why this is not the case?

 

Link: G.O.P.-Led Senate Panel Affirms Russia Attacked Election, and Urges Action

 

"As President Trump amplifies unsubstantiated claims of Ukrainian interference in the 2016 election, the Republican-led Senate Intelligence Committee reaffirmed on Tuesday that Russian operatives engaged in a widespread social media campaign to improve his chances in the race.

In a report, the committee backed up the conclusions of the intelligence community, the special counsel and researchers that Russia mounted a broad campaign to interfere in the election. A Russian troll farm central to the election campaign supported “Donald Trump at the direction of the Kremlin,” the committee said."

[stevenl]

1 hour ago, Thomas J said:

Never proven that Russia had any "meaningful" impact on the election nor if it swayed any votes to Trump or Clinton.  <snip>

Doesn't matter, the meddling was there, that is the issue.

[NoBrainer]

6 hours ago, stevenl said:

You do realise Russian meddling has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt. See statements from democrats, republicans, cia, FBI, nsa, all under trump appointed leadership.

 

So I and I'm sure others as well cringe whenever I see a statement like yours, totally based on fake news and fake beliefs.

 

The Russians, The Americans and at least a dozen other countries have been meddling in other countries elections for more than 50 years. The US is generally known to be the worst offender, so bad, that if they did not get the desired results they would even support a coup, or in a few cases, an invasion to force regime change.

 

This has been the status quo, ever since newspapers were invented. It has just intensified, due to the spread of lightning fast media & the internet.

 

The genie is out of the bottle, and nobody will be able to put it back in, so get used to it.

 

But anyone of sound mind should clearly see that the ongoing attempts to remove President Trump from office is a Coup, and can not be construed as anything else. Where is the Crime? They are just fishing, to try to create a Crime, which is not due process for anyone.

 

And, as for asking for help from a series of foreign countries, to aid in the investigation of corrupt politicians, no matter who they are, the President is in his right, and would be negligent if he did not do so. If there was no corruption, or appearance of corruption, then there would be no need to investigate, but it is obvious from what is already known, that there is a great need to investigate further. 

 

If the targets of the relevant investigation has not done anything wrong, as they keep stating, then they should not fear any investigation, in order to help clear their name.

 

 

 

Edited October 30, 2019 by NoBrainer
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[Baerboxer]

4 hours ago, canuckamuck said:

The reality is that there is disinformation on both sides. This is the state of affairs now. Very hard to know what is true.

 

No it's easy. Just follow the lead set by one often "confused" poster.

 

Democrats, socialists, Labour, left wing, liberals - always tell the truth, totally honest and beyond repproach.

 

Anyone who doesn't think like them, dares to challenge them, points out some of their indiscretions, or wonders where their billions come from - very bad, liars, fascist nazi racists whose views cannot be allowed or tolerated.

 

 

[Misty]

2 hours ago, bristolboy said:

Well, as the bipartisan Senate committee found, it's the Russians.

Yes, and a growing list of others...

[xylophone]

1 hour ago, NoBrainer said:

But eventually the fight of Good VS Evil will have a winner, and Good will generally prevail.

So Trump will be a goner then! 

 

If what you say is "true" then the dumb, lying, cheating, misogynistic, adulterous excuse for a human being, called Trump, certainly won't prevail! Good news.

[bristolboy]

2 hours ago, NoBrainer said:

 

The Russians, The Americans and at least a dozen other countries have been meddling in other countries elections for more than 50 years. The US is generally known to be the worst offender, so bad, that if they did not get the desired results they would even support a coup, or in a few cases, an invasion to force regime change.

 

This has been the status quo, ever since newspapers were invented. It has just intensified, due to the spread of lightning fast media & the internet.

 

The genie is out of the bottle, and nobody will be able to put it back in, so get used to it.

 

But anyone of sound mind should clearly see that the ongoing attempts to remove President Trump from office is a Coup, and can not be construed as anything else. Where is the Crime? They are just fishing, to try to create a Crime, which is not due process for anyone.

 

And, as for asking for help from a series of foreign countries, to aid in the investigation of corrupt politicians, no matter who they are, the President is in his right, and would be negligent if he did not do so. If there was no corruption, or appearance of corruption, then there would be no need to investigate, but it is obvious from what is already known, that there is a great need to investigate further. 

 

If the targets of the relevant investigation has not done anything wrong, as they keep stating, then they should not fear any investigation, in order to help clear their name.

 

 

 

And out of all the corruption there is out there, his concern just happened to focus on Joseph Biden. Amazing coincidence! In fact, Trump was so concerned about corruption in the Ukraine that he wanted to slash anti-corruption funding for that nation by over 50%.

[bristolboy]

6 hours ago, canuckamuck said:

It is amazing that you can think that one side is being truthful and the other is entirely untruthful. What sort of world do you live in?  You don't think politicians on the left ever lie, or the mainstream media doesn't manipulate the news?

Until you gain some skepticism, you are just going to be a pawn.

 

Nice try at conflating empty generalities with this particular issue.