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[bristolboy]

50 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Remember when the scientists were telling us we were going to be in an ice age by now? Not that long ago, either. I remember it well.

Do you also remember when that was the scientific consensus? If so, you might want to consult a neurologist.

[bristolboy]

23 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Lots of people in NZ live next to the sea, probably most. If there was any detectable rise in level the government ( that is all into the man made climate change biz ) would be shouting it from every roof top. Actual rise is about 1mm a year. Not enough to notice in a decade.

Personally. I'll believe it when people start noticing a real rise, which isn't yet.

As for the future, the dinosaurs had a wake up call, and humans are no less vulnerable to all sorts of catastrophes. Another Krakatoa could happen any time.

Given the disregard that humans have for their environment or the creatures that live in it with us, I doubt that any real effort will be made till it's too late anyway. We are terrible custodians of planet earth.

From the official NZ government office of statistics:

Coastal sea-level rise

National mean coastal sea levels have risen (relative to land) 1.81 (±0.05) millimetres per year

https://www.stats.govt.nz/indicators/coastal-sea-level-rise

Edited October 31, 2019 by bristolboy

[Puchaiyank]

Now is the time to buy that waterfront home you have always wanted...????  ????

[Lacessit]

2 hours ago, canuckamuck said:

At 2mm a year the sea will rise 160 mm in 80 years, that's half a foot, not 3 and a half feet. We have increased CO2 by 40% and have not seen a correlation with sea level rise. What sort of junk science is predicting a 500% increase in the rate of sea level rise

Basic thermodynamics. We dig up fossil fuels and burn them for electricity and transport. We produce heat. That heat warms the oceans, the oceans melt ice shelves, glaciers and ice caps. More water in the oceans.

Then there's the permafrost. It locks up methane. Trillions of tonnes of it. Release that, and methane has a greenhouse gas effect 100 times that of carbon dioxide.

I suppose it's natural selection at work. Smart/rich humans will survive. Dumb/ignorant/poor humans won't.

Are you going to put your money where your mouth is, and buy a condo in Bangkok?

 

[VocalNeal]

26 minutes ago, Puchaiyank said:

Now is the time to buy that waterfront home you have always wanted...????  ????

Life on the high-seas.

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, Skallywag said:

Yes "Far more people at risk". So Profound! World population grows, more people, more risk.

No worries, Artificial intelligence (AI) and robotics will cure all woes in our future  555

Indeed. Skynet will solve all.

[thaibeachlovers]

6 minutes ago, VocalNeal said:

Life on the high-seas.

The future of human life will be on huge floating cities with fish and seaweed farms moored beside.

Plenty of illustrations of such on the internet.

Coastal flooding is not doom, it is an opportunity to shed boring life on land.

[thaibeachlovers]

18 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Basic thermodynamics. We dig up fossil fuels and burn them for electricity and transport. We produce heat. That heat warms the oceans, the oceans melt ice shelves, glaciers and ice caps. More water in the oceans.

Then there's the permafrost. It locks up methane. Trillions of tonnes of it. Release that, and methane has a greenhouse gas effect 100 times that of carbon dioxide.

I suppose it's natural selection at work. Smart/rich humans will survive. Dumb/ignorant/poor humans won't.

Are you going to put your money where your mouth is, and buy a condo in Bangkok?

 

Actually, once the methane all gets released from the permafrost methane storms will destroy all life on the surface of planet earth. That happens at an increase of 6 degrees C, according to the article I read decades ago.

Your rich humans better get digging.

[VocalNeal]

12 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

shed boring life on land

Been to urban Australia then?

[Skallywag]

The Thai's figured a way around this at least 200 years ago.  Build your house on stilts!

[canuckamuck]

20 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Basic thermodynamics. We dig up fossil fuels and burn them for electricity and transport. We produce heat. That heat warms the oceans, the oceans melt ice shelves, glaciers and ice caps. More water in the oceans.

Then there's the permafrost. It locks up methane. Trillions of tonnes of it. Release that, and methane has a greenhouse gas effect 100 times that of carbon dioxide.

I suppose it's natural selection at work. Smart/rich humans will survive. Dumb/ignorant/poor humans won't.

Are you going to put your money where your mouth is, and buy a condo in Bangkok?

 

The theory is not the heat generated from burning fuels, but the effect of solar heat trapping by CO2. Methane is currently 0.00017% of the atmosphere So It hasn't caused anything. And it's Global warming power is less than 50, not 100.

[Tayaout]

3 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Perhaps if people stopped overpopulating the planet they wouldn't be living on natural flooding areas, then complaining when it floods.

It's like buying a house next to an airport then complaining about the planes.

Self inflicted problem.

More like buying a home near a sea port. Nearly all major capital are built near water because it's closer to maritime transport, food source and arable land. Even if there was less population most of it would be near the coast. 

Edited October 31, 2019 by Tayaout

[NCC1701A]

3 hours ago, neeray said:

The deniers

[FarFlungFalang]

30 minutes ago, Skallywag said:

The Thai's figured a way around this at least 200 years ago.  Build your house on stilts!

They tried that in Darwin NT and look what happened Tracey huffed and puffed and blew the lot to pieces.

[Cryingdick]

34 minutes ago, Skallywag said:

The Thai's figured a way around this at least 200 years ago.  Build your house on stilts!

 

Fair enough but when you get flash floods those legs get taken out quick and swift.

[FarFlungFalang]

Higher temps means higher evaporation rates so the water levels will remain static if not then just syphon off excess.

[Isaan sailor]

For China, it’s a self-inflicted wound.  They have the dubious distinction of the world’s number one polluter. 

[thaibeachlovers]

Real estate companies in NZ obviously don't believe it, and the government isn't doing anything about it despite being avid believers when it comes to new taxes.

I wonder why?

[thaibeachlovers]

3 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

Plant a tree and take a picture and post it. Doit with your kids. You can explain to your kids why the tree is more beneficial to the world than they are. 

Indeed. The kids will just grow up to be consumers and polluters. The trees will grow to sequester CO2.

[FarFlungFalang]

35 minutes ago, Isaan sailor said:

For China, it’s a self-inflicted wound.  They have the dubious distinction of the world’s number one polluter. 

Is that per capita?

[Scott]

Off-topic, troll posts and replies removed.  

 

[Cryingdick]

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Edited October 31, 2019 by Cryingdick

[VocalNeal]

^ Only a reference to another thing or person some people believe in. Not so far off topic?

[englishoak]

 Oh dear Is Bangkok going to sink into the sea AGAIN ?  cue panic, virtue signalling and a bunch of hippies demanding we all go vegan and save the planet 

[ThomasThBKK]

42 minutes ago, FarFlungFalang said:

Is that per capita?

 

Nah thats the US, Australia and Canada by far. 

[ThomasThBKK]

11 minutes ago, englishoak said:

 Oh dear Is Bangkok going to sink into the sea AGAIN ?  cue panic, virtue signalling and a bunch of hippies demanding we all go vegan and save the planet 

Yes it is, around 2 cm each year. That happens if you build skyscrapers on a swamp. Not much one can deny there. The pure weight of these buildings on swampy land pushes it down.

 

 

[ThomasThBKK]

6 hours ago, Chazar said:

yawnn yawn bluddy  yawn........25 years ago the Maldives was going to be underwater......its still there

https://onenewsnow.com/science-tech/2018/09/22/30-yrs-later-global-warming-still-hasnt-sunk-maldives

This  link wont work in google  chrome for me ( maybe they dont  want you to read it)  but works in Opera.maybe a geographic  location limit?

Did you ever go there? They have major issues and are relocating the whole capital city to a new man made island.

[wavodavo]

5 hours ago, tifino said:

the seas are not Rising with mans' help...

 - they are moving sideways

 

The great climate change scare is a load of sh.t Of course the climate has changed it always has and always will.!! Re your picture of the Gold coast beach erosion I witnessed first hand the beach front completely destroyed by heavy seas and a high rise building almost washed into the sea...That was 1967!!

[wavodavo]

2 hours ago, FarFlungFalang said:

They tried that in Darwin NT and look what happened Tracey huffed and puffed and blew the lot to pieces.

Thats because they were not built to cyclone building standards.the new ones are now.

[soalbundy]

5 hours ago, canuckamuck said:

Yeah, that's what they say. I guess its OK to be spooky on Halloween. Let me know when it is actually documented as an observed phenomenon. So far they have wiffed on every prediction of doom

really ? every year a heat record is broken, hurricanes are stronger and bigger than before, the ice melt in Greenland is increasing, forest fires are now a danger world wide and drought in places like Australia have become the new normal, my sister runs a cattle farm in Australia, the dams she built on her land are dry and she has had to slaughter half of her herd because there is no water or feed for them. In siberia the frozen tundra is warming up and releasing methane gas that is 30 times more harmful than CO2, houses in the far North (Alaska, Siberia etc) are sinking due to the permafrost melting.