13 minutes ago, Thingamabob said:

Latest polls indicate a Boris/Tory clear majority of 60 seats. I find that hard to imagine, but that is clearly what is being forecast.

Let's see. The silent majority will have their say. 

 

Remainers can march around London and post on Facebook as much as they want. Leavers will silently judge them and then make their voice heard at the polling stations as they did in 2016.

3 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Corbyn who is a eurosceptic probably wants a clean break but Starmer et al have him by the balls. Their policy is incoherent. The shadow cabinet is an embarrassment. McDonnell and Abbott and Thornberry ? What a sheeitshow.

 

If Johnson gets a massive majority then Parliament will follow him. Simple as that.

Regsrdless of the majority, if Boris breaks the central tenet of his campaign Parliament will not follow

 

1 minute ago, JonnyF said:

Let's see. The silent majority will have their say. 

 

Remainers can march around London and post on Facebook as much as they want. Leavers will silently judge them and then make their voice heard at the polling stations as they did in 2016.

And 2017?

1 minute ago, JonnyF said:

Let's see. The silent majority will have their say. 

 

Remainers can march around London and post on Facebook as much as they want. Leavers will silently judge them and then make their voice heard at the polling stations as they did in 2016.

More crystal ball stuff.

1 minute ago, JonnyF said:

Let's see. The silent majority will have their say. 

 

Remainers can march around London and post on Facebook as much as they want. Leavers will silently judge them and then make their voice heard at the polling stations as they did in 2016.

Boris Johnson track record says he will pass the WA and extend 

1 minute ago, cleopatra2 said:

Regsrdless of the majority, if Boris breaks the central tenet of his campaign Parliament will not follow

 

Parliament was happy to go against the manifestos on which they stood in 2017.

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

More crystal ball stuff.

History is a great predictor of the future.

 

The vocal minority will be embarrassed at the polls again. 

2 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:

And 2017?

In 2017 labour stood on a manifesto to honour the referendum result. 

 

Some were suckered in. Not this time. 

1 minute ago, cleopatra2 said:

Boris Johnson track record says he will pass the WA and extend 

What track record on extending? Did everything in his power to prevent an extension on October 31st.

1 minute ago, JonnyF said:

Parliament was happy to go against the manifestos on which they stood in 2017.

You can only say this if you did not read the manifesto.

No main political party declared they were leaving without a deal.

2 minutes ago, cleopatra2 said:

Boris Johnson track record says he will pass the WA and extend 

His track record is being over ridden by a remain parliament. The surrender act forced his hand. Good luck passing that again with a massive Tory majority.

Just now, JonnyF said:

In 2017 labour stood on a manifesto to honour the referendum result. 

 

Some were suckered in. Not this time. 

The labour manifesto promised a deal.

The referendum leave campaign never stated what leave meant

2 minutes ago, cleopatra2 said:

You can only say this if you did not read the manifesto.

No main political party declared they were leaving without a deal.

I read it. They stood on a manifesto to leave.

 

Leaving without a treaty is leaving. No trade deal has been proposed yet. That's the next stage.

 

 

3 minutes ago, cleopatra2 said:

The labour manifesto promised a deal.

The referendum leave campaign never stated what leave meant

What deal?

 

A trade deal or a treaty ?

 

Leave meant leaving the single market and the customs union. Every leaver knows this only remainers pretend to get confused. 

3 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:

What track record on extending? Did everything in his power to prevent an extension on October 31st.

Look at the politics.

Prior to prorugation Boris had sufficient support to wait and see what agreement he brought back.

He could have delayed sufficiently to place pressure on MPs.

Instead he prorogued Parliament allowing sufficient time for the Ben Act.

Then when the Act was in danger of not having time to pass the HoL the government comes to an arrangement with opposition to allow it to pass

2 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

What deal?

 

A trade deal or a treaty ?

 

Leave meant leaving the single market and the customs union. Every leaver knows this only remainers pretend to get confused. 

Not from the leave campaigners.

The next stage was for the government to decide

7 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

History is a great predictor of the future.

 

The vocal minority will be embarrassed at the polls again. 

History tells us that the Tory party had a 14 point lead at the start of the 2017 election campaign, which all but dissapeared by polling day. The Tory party currently has a 10 point lead.

 

Does this tell us that Labour are going to win the election?

 

1 minute ago, cleopatra2 said:

Look at the politics.

Prior to prorugation Boris had sufficient support to wait and see what agreement he brought back.

He could have delayed sufficiently to place pressure on MPs.

Instead he prorogued Parliament allowing sufficient time for the Ben Act.

Then when the Act was in danger of not having time to pass the HoL the government comes to an arrangement with opposition to allow it to pass

I've never read a more confused opinion on TV. Bizzare.

Just now, DannyCarlton said:

History tells us that the Tory party had a 14 point lead at the start of the 2017 election campaign, which all but dissapeared by polling day. The Tory party currently has a 10 point lead.

 

Does this tell us that Labour are going to win the election?

 

Yes labour were pretending to honour the leave result in 2017.

 

Nobody is believing that any more. Plus everyone knows what Corbyn stands for this time around. Labour will be crushed.

Brexit: the biggest joke in history

5 minutes ago, cleopatra2 said:

Look at the politics.

Prior to prorugation Boris had sufficient support to wait and see what agreement he brought back.

He could have delayed sufficiently to place pressure on MPs.

Instead he prorogued Parliament allowing sufficient time for the Ben Act.

Then when the Act was in danger of not having time to pass the HoL the government comes to an arrangement with opposition to allow it to pass

Not how I remember it.

2 minutes ago, spiekerjozef said:

Brexit: the biggest joke in history

Tusk isn't laughing.

1 minute ago, JonnyF said:

Yes labour were pretending to honour the leave result in 2017.

 

Nobody is believing that any more. Plus everyone knows what Corbyn stands for this time around. Labour will be crushed.

They always have and still are prepared to honour the leave result. What they are not and never have been prepared to do is leave with a deal that does major damage to the economy. Just as the leave campaign promised.

2 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:

Not how I remember it.

Well tell how did Benn Act come about

And how it dud not get fillibusted

19 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

Parliament was happy to go against the manifestos on which they stood in 2017.

From Labour manifesto 2017

 

Labour recognises that leaving the EU with ‘no deal’ is the worst possible deal for Britain and that it would do damage to our economy and trade. We will reject ‘no deal’ as a viable option and if needs be negotiate transitional arrangements to avoid a ?cliff-edge’ for the ?? economy.

1 minute ago, cleopatra2 said:

Well tell how did Benn Act come about

And how it dud not get fillibusted

That was mainly down to Bercow, who set clear timescales to prevent fillibustering.

2 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:

They always have and still are prepared to honour the leave result. What they are not and never have been prepared to do is leave with a deal that does major damage to the economy. Just as the leave campaign promised.

Not true. They promised to leave to try and hoover up the leave vote. Then voted against it in HOC.

 

But it doesn't matter now. Their mask has slipped and the Brexit party will stand against the Labour MP's in leave seats. They're gonna get mullered. Well the ones that dont bottle it and resign beforehand anyway.

5 minutes ago, cleopatra2 said:

From Labour manifesto 2017

 

Labour recognises that leaving the EU with ‘no deal’ is the worst possible deal for Britain and that it would do damage to our economy and trade. We will reject ‘no deal’ as a viable option and if needs be negotiate transitional arrangements to avoid a ?cliff-edge’ for the ?? economy.

Define deal.

 

Trade deal or European treaty ?

1 minute ago, JonnyF said:

Not true. They promised to leave to try and hoover up the leave vote. Then voted against it in HOC.

They have never voted against a deal that will do minimal damage to the economy. They even proposed one which May rejected.

 

How did they vote in invoking Article 50? For or against?

11 minutes ago, DannyCarlton said:

That was mainly down to Bercow, who set clear timescales to prevent fillibustering.

The Bill had to clear the HoL .where the Government placed 102 amendments. The government came to agreement to allow it pass the HoL