Immigration chief: Don't scare the tourists away by being too strict - we need them and their money

[Drax]

USA still interviews me for 30 min every time I pass by their customs (& check phone often). Compared to them thai imigration is paradise. China is also super nice. Basic questions only.

 

Europe probably nicest. They look at you 3x and ask no questions and let you in.  

Edited December 9, 2019 by Drax

[Somtamnication]

LOL. The boss is directly contradicting the ever delusional TAT's figures. Love it.

[saengd]

2 minutes ago, noone223 said:

no he wasn't ! that's 1 out of 3 reasons they denied & detained him, but it was never proven!

Too funny! This is Thailand, they don't need to prove things in the same way that a UK entity might have to follow legal guidelines and have several levels of appeal, things don't work that way here. But I do know after almost twenty years here that Immi. doesn't usually kick people out unless they have a reason. Sorry but that's the way it is. And I also know from multiple discussions with various expats on the subject of people being denied entry etc., most if not all who post their tales of woe and unfair biased cruelty on this forum, aren't telling the complete story.

[Drax]

1 minute ago, saengd said:

Too funny! This is Thailand, they don't need to prove things in the same way that a UK entity might have to follow legal guidelines and have several levels of appeal, things don't work that way here. But I do know after almost twenty years here that Immi. doesn't usually kick people out unless they have a reason. Sorry but that's the way it is. And I also know from multiple discussions with various expats on the subject of people being denied entry etc., most if not all who post their tales of woe and unfair biased cruelty on this forum, aren't telling the complete story.

Nah they almost kicked me when I had 5 months in Thailand 3 years ago, they only didn’t cuz i showed 20k and return flight within 3 months. Basically yeah anyone under tourist visa is at risk of being kicked after 6 months stay basically. Not written on book but obvious. That’s the complete story.

[Langkawee]

9 hours ago, SaamBaht said:

Been here 17 years. Still reporting every 90 days. How bout being nice to long term folks? 

You are asking the  citizens of a generally racist xenophobic nation to be nice to foreigners. Your post makes no logical sense. Can't you see it is you that is the problem. If you wanted salt of the Earth humanity and warm feelings you should have retired in Vietnam.

[saengd]

4 minutes ago, Drax said:

Nah they almost kicked me when I had 5 months in Thailand 3 years ago, they only didn’t cuz i showed 20k and return flight within 3 months. Basically yeah anyone under tourist visa is at risk of being kicked after 6 months stay basically. Not written on book but obvious. That’s the complete story.

Sure, but 6 months in a country is not someone being a common or garden variety tourist, it's something else which requires a different visa.

[Bangkok Barry]

9 hours ago, Nkpjed said:

It should be obvious to anyone who has lived here any length time.  Thailand wants foreign money, they just don’t want foreigners.

 

They are moving ever closer to their dream. If they extend the compulsory insurance to those on O marriage visas then thousands of elderly folk who are uninsurable due to age but are supporting a Thai family will be forced to leave. Then, when asking how they can support their family, they will be told they are free to send money from overseas.

[noone223]

22 minutes ago, saengd said:

But I do know after almost twenty years here that Immi. doesn't usually kick people out unless they have a reason.

You might be right, but just because they didn't kick you out doesn't mean you'll be back for more humiliation.

 

[saengd]

5 minutes ago, noone223 said:

You might be right, but just because they didn't kick you out doesn't mean you'll be back for more humiliation.

 

I'm OK with a little humility from time to time, I've come to realise it's a part of the landscape, it doesn't cost me anything to maintain my life here.

[balo]

Does this mean we can forget about the TM30 and just be nice to each other?  

[lemonjelly]

Quick, shut the barn door, the horse has bolted !!!

[sunnyboy2018]

1 hour ago, Langkawee said:

The expat community brought it upon themselves by not having the leadership, solidarity and courage of somebody like Gandhi. You have reaped what you have sown, and that is choosing to be second class citizens unlike the Chinese and Japanese in Thailand. 

Ghandi would have been murdered by any other colonialists than the British.

[sunnyboy2018]

11 hours ago, ttrd said:

He talk about tourists, not expats - a small but significant difference ...

Actually they are effectively the same. We import hard currency. We frequently travel around the country  We drink and eat in tourist areas sometines. We stay in hotels sometimes. We effectively renew our visa via the 90 day reporting system which makes us more like tourists.

[Deported]

2 hours ago, saengd said:

Working without a work permit, fair enough  I suppose, those are the rules anywhere.

Saengd you didn't understand, (maybe read my original post first) the question was: "And what was their reason for deporting you?"
This is one of the number of article they take to deported me and wrote in my passeport, (they need a reason) so they just lie) it's not the true... They even wrote we suppose than he work, in a paper than they don't want give me a copy... They can say what they want.

We suppose than you are a murder, so go to jail... The thai law is working like that? Only need suppositions to put the people in jail?

First I'm not crazy to work in thailand with a tourist visa, the jails of thailand are hells, and even with a work permit, why should prefer to work in thailand when I can get maybe 10 X more salary in my own country...?

[sunnyboy2018]

54 minutes ago, balo said:

Does this mean we can forget about the TM30 and just be nice to each other?  

The TM30  on issue was blown out of proportion on this forum by rumour mongers and people who did not understand their visas or their accommodation situation. It never was an issue for most people.

[scubascuba3]

1 hour ago, Langkawee said:

The expat community brought it upon themselves by not having the leadership, solidarity and courage of somebody like Gandhi. You have reaped what you have sown, and that is choosing to be second class citizens unlike the Chinese and Japanese in Thailand. 

Have you been smoking too much, maybe us expats should have got a flip flopped chang vested begpacker to lead us

[brianthainess]

21 hours ago, kingdong said:

Those were the days my friend we thought they,d never end...........

A 1 hit wonder

[pattaya1234was]

Yesterday I visited Immigration in Pattaya for a 90-day report. Queue was 20 metres long outside the besides the scrum inside.  The worst I have seen in 20 years. And the problem seemed to be caused by TM 30 reportees on their return to a new address in Pattaya. Yes I know the hotel or apartment owner should do this reporting ,but..... Most did not seem to know they did not have to report if they were returning to the same address. And all I wanted was a queue number-yes, I could have pushed my way to the front, but.... again 

[Sydebolle]

A case of "closing the barn after every animal has escaped"? 

[Deported]

1 hour ago, Drax said:

Nah they almost kicked me when I had 5 months in Thailand 3 years ago, they only didn’t cuz i showed 20k and return flight within 3 months. Basically yeah anyone under tourist visa is at risk of being kicked after 6 months stay basically. Not written on book but obvious. That’s the complete story.

It will be fair if they warn the tourists before, if they inform the tourist before than they not allowed to stay more than 6 months with tourist visa, and if they not continue to sell tourist visa to the long stay tourist...
Not suddenly take the tourists like criminels with supposed things...

[saengd]

49 minutes ago, Deported said:

Saengd you didn't understand, (maybe read my original post first) the question was: "And what was their reason for deporting you?"
This is one of the number of article they take to deported me and wrote in my passeport, (they need a reason) so they just lie) it's not the true... They even wrote we suppose than he work, in a paper than they don't want give me a copy... They can say what they want.

We suppose than you are a murder, so go to jail... The thai law is working like that? Only need suppositions to put the people in jail?

First I'm not crazy to work in thailand with a tourist visa, the jails of thailand are hells, and even with a work permit, why should prefer to work in thailand when I can get maybe 10 X more salary in my own country...?

Two questions:

 

Were you working in Thailand, even working remotely?

 

How many times on how many visa's had you been in Thailand over the previous 365 days?

[Deported]

2 minutes ago, saengd said:

Two questions:

 

Were you working in Thailand, even working remotely?

 

How many times on how many visa's had you been in Thailand over the previous 365 days?

who tell you than I'm worked in thailand? The immigration I guess. ????????????
I never worked in thailand.

I used a METV visa maybe not far of 7-8 month, (like authorised) and then 3 months later than I left, I come back with a single entry tourist visa. Why to sell me these visa if I'm not authorised to stay like a tourist ?


 

[saengd]

11 minutes ago, Deported said:

who tell you than I'm worked in thailand? The immigration I guess. ????????????
I never worked in thailand.

I used a METV visa maybe not far of 7-8 month, (like authorised) and then 3 months later than I left, I come back with a single entry tourist visa. Why to sell me these visa if I'm not authorised to stay like a tourist ?


 

So 8 months and then three months later you came back again, you can see how Immi. thinks that you're not a regular tourist and that they thought you might be working here. Common or garden tourists take three or four weeks vacation a couple of times per year, not eight or nine months in every twelve!

 

Anyway, sorry you got bounced, perhaps try a different visa next time.

[Bangkokazy]

If Immigration chief Lt-Gen Sompong Chingduang needs money. I have an advice for him
Make a history, how bad is it too not getting the weekly envelopes that you depend on.

 

no tourists then Sompong Chingduang feel
uncomfortable, because you can't get everything you want.

 

https://www.gofundme.com

[Deported]

5 minutes ago, saengd said:

So 8 months and then three months later you came back again, you can see how Immi. thinks that you're not a regular tourist and that they thought you might be working here. Common or garden tourists take three or four weeks vacation a couple of times per year, not eight or nine months in every twelve!

 

Anyway, sorry you got bounced, perhaps try a different visa next time.

Yeap, so they don't respect the peoples and just work with suppositions, but they not understand than it's themself let's me come in before? Themself who propse me, and sell me these tourist visa...
it's not a way to take and treat peoples like  criminals... They give me the autorisation to come and after they treat me like a criminal!

So If I understand well, I have to lie and to have a fake job or a fake student visa to stay like a tourist without work in thailand? Very nice country...
But like I say in my first post, the best option it's to go spent our money in another country more welcoming for tourist, and where they respect more the humains...

[metisdead]

A troll post has been removed. 

[saengd]

35 minutes ago, Deported said:

Yeap, so they don't respect the peoples and just work with suppositions, but they not understand than it's themself let's me come in before? Themself who propse me, and sell me these tourist visa...
it's not a way to take and treat peoples like  criminals... They give me the autorisation to come and after they treat me like a criminal!

So If I understand well, I have to lie and to have a fake job or a fake student visa to stay like a tourist without work in thailand? Very nice country...
But like I say in my first post, the best option it's to go spent our money in another country more welcoming for tourist, and where they respect more the humains...

Either get an O-A visa which will give you more access or rationalise your visits. My (Thai) wife has a five year tourist visa to the UK but that doesn't mean she can be a tourist there for five straight years...if she spends more time in the UK than she spends in Thailand in a twelve month period she will not be allowed to enter again, effectively six months in every twelve is OK.

[FalangJaiDee]

18 hours ago, agood1963 said:

They do not want expats in Thailand anymore as they are to street wise  , only tourists as they can easily be ripped off quick and easy .

underrated. i think you're right 

[SupermarineS6B]

Having had a few nasty experiences with immigration recently i don't even fly directly into Thailand anymore as whatever paperwork you've got or how many hoops you've jumped through you never know the childishness or downright nastiness of the immigration people. What a sad situation where a government department has gone out of it's way to be downright vindictive just because it can, all to the expense of the country and it's people. 

I know immigration has just had a well deserved kick up the chuff for their childish treatment of people, i won't say tourists or long timers, people, their venom was for all......... I crossed a border a week ago and the immigration person basically welcomed me in, in sharp contrast to the last time i tried to cross a border which ended in an hour of insults.......  

It's strange how the big cheese has stated that tourists must be treated with understanding and compassion.........   At least he knows they wern't before...........  Admittance of guilt, now there's a change....... must be stony broke to come out with this little beauty........

[Deported]

26 minutes ago, saengd said:

Either get an O-A visa which will give you more access or rationalise your visits. My (Thai) wife has a five year tourist visa to the UK but that doesn't mean she can be a tourist there for five straight years...if she spends more time in the UK than she spends in Thailand in a twelve month period she will not be allowed to enter again, effectively six months in every twelve is OK.

less than 50, not possible for the O-A...
Jus not go again to thailand will be more simple... And I don't want support more these ugly immigration things which happening, by going again to thailand in a near futur, they "hit me" one time, I will not give my second cheek...
And I suggest to all tourists to do the same of me, there is so many nice countries, where you are allowed to stay 3 month every 6 months without visa...
Greeting from Brazil! ????