Thais told: If your young kid dies after letting them drive - YOU'VE MURDERED THEM!

[Jack Mountain]

Why waking up the dogs, it's an ideal way to get rid of your kids. Give them a fast bike and NO helmet. Voila!

[Chongalulu]

Anyone here think this will make an iota of difference? Just more hot air. The people want it this way and the government only have to pretend to care. QED.

[spidermike007]

What parent in their right mind lets their 12 year old kid drive a pick up truck? What gives here? Where is the common sense, and desire to protect one's offspring? And where is the law enforcement? Such astonishing indifference. The police are as much to blame as the parents. 

[jaiyen]

Thai society has evolved like this and it will never change. Poor people have to get by any way they can and the law will never be a barrier that they care about.  The Government need to do more to help them not buy submarines and arms for a useless army and navy mostly made up of young conscripted kids. 

[hotchilli]

18 hours ago, webfact said:

They quoted the victim's grandfather Khamchai, 60, as saying that Withaya had been driving since he was eight or nine and drove all manner of vehicles. He claimed to have spoken up about it but no one listened to him.

I wonder what he's saying now... is he still proud?

[Hoppyone]

18 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Happens all the time, there is a 14 year old near us who the locals pay a couple of hundred Baht to do deliveries in his Dad's old Isuzu pickup (which looks like it shouldn't be anywhere near a road).

 

He's also 'geng maak' behind the wheel, apparently. ????

 

Fun

 

18 hours ago, JonnyF said:

Happens all the time, there is a 14 year old near us who the locals pay a couple of hundred Baht to do deliveries in his Dad's old Isuzu pickup (which looks like it shouldn't be anywhere near a road).

 

He's also 'geng maak' behind the wheel, apparently. ????

 

Unfortunately in Thailand it’s more the norm than not the norm with young students driving unlicense motorcycle,motor vehicles,tractors ect, on the roads mainly in villages without a care in the world

[Dice Man]

18 hours ago, Chelseafan said:

I agree with you but there's no transport to get them to school other than the motorbike.

You may well say that it's up to the parents to drive them there but mum and dad are working in the fields at silly-o-clock.

I'm actually surprised that there's not more fatalities in the sticks.

 

Bicycles are safer and can be used some of the time ie distances of under 8kms.../Govt Initiative to promote cheap bikes??

[Moti24]

19 hours ago, webfact said:

Young people are just not equipped with the necessary skills to drive.

And the older people are?

 

R.i.P. to the young boy; a victim of one ****ed-up society.

[p414]

18 hours ago, Chelseafan said:

I agree with you but there's no transport to get them to school other than the motorbike.

You may well say that it's up to the parents to drive them there but mum and dad are working in the fields at silly-o-clock.

I'm actually surprised that there's not more fatalities in the sticks.

 

my deceased wife and her brother had to walk 6 kilometers to school and back.They were not allowed to drive anything.

 

[Chazar]

18 hours ago, Chelseafan said:

I agree with you but there's no transport to get them to school other than the motorbike.

give  the  fat  little  buggas  a  bicycle

[digger70]

19 hours ago, webfact said:

Young people are just not equipped with the necessary skills to drive.

Neither are Most  so called adults.

[Jack P]

It’s neglect not murder. Of course a child should be taken to school by an adult if it’s not safe for them to walk or cycle, but that’s not always a practical option.

Edited January 3, 2020 by Jack P
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[thasoss]

16 hours ago, roo860 said:

Have Thai friends whose daughter was 11 and riding motorbike, we ask her why she let her ride it, the answer was if we tried to stop her she'd make problems.

????????????????

thai's dont like confrontation even parental children one's

[thasoss]

59 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

What parent in their right mind lets their 12 year old kid drive a pick up truck? What gives here? Where is the common sense, and desire to protect one's offspring? And where is the law enforcement? Such astonishing indifference. The police are as much to blame as the parents. 

you've been here long enough to know thai's dont have commonsense,and that there is no law enforcement(not having a go at you) our culture and thai culture are poles apart and will never meet.So we never understand each other really.

[roo860]

11 minutes ago, thasoss said:

thai's dont like confrontation even parental children one's

Then my family must be an exception to this rule.

[ebean001]

my brother wa a great driver at age 10. he later was a race car driver. at 12, I assume he drove well but....this is the problem.....at a young age one mistake and it is all over. my brother made mistakes but lived. play the odds and wait for young people. yes, some can drive well but letting them by themselves, no seat belt, etc. the odds are against them

[tomauasia]

Recall all Thais for DL retesting that have had serious infringements 

[kwak250]

My 14 year old son is probably the only child in his class who gets dropped off at school each day all his friends ride bikes .

I remember buying a 50cc moped at 16 hiding it from my dad at a friends house here they buy them a honda wave or bigger at about 10 years old.

I must admit i did always complain about all the rules in the U.K but they are enforced for a good reason.

Seen a young lad go to the shops the other day and he had to lean the bike over to tip toe with one foot when he stopped .

 

[kwak250]

One thing that annoys me my wife says watch out for the school kids riding bikes as they won't be able to pay for repairs as they won't be insured.

So why the fork are they on the road and fork knows why the police allow it just fine the parents for even allowing a kid to ride a bike ..1000 baht each time.

Take the bike off them and when the fine is paid return the bike.

Rant over ..happy new year everyone..

Edited January 3, 2020 by kwak250
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[Nkpjed]

Won’t change a thing.  Spend a day out in the provinces where I live and you’ll see for yourself.  This is common every day practice. Parents praise their kids as being (เก่งมาก) very good.  This way kids can ride to the markets and run other errands so the parents can stay in the fields.  There is never any thought given to the fact that they are putting their kids in danger.   It’s the culture.  Police do nothing and are virtually non-existent.  Laws mean absolutely nothing to these people.  It’s sad and my guess is it will never change.  This threat of being prosecuted for allowing their kids to drive is hollow.  Means nothing to these people because even they know it will never be enforced because law enforcement in Thailand is totally ineffective and useless.

[Grusa]

9 hours ago, Chelseafan said:

I don't live there at present but purleease get yourself into the real world? The school does not have the funds for anything as extravagant as a school bus & driver

 

There is no way I would ask the kids to cycle, walk, crawl, hop etc to the school on a bendy road that encourages drivers to speed - That's being a decent parent and as I don't live there I really do not have any say.

 

 

And why does the school not have the funds? Because the principal has embezzled most of the funds, such as are left after the minister has embezzled the funds, such as are left after his Big Boss has embezzled the funds.

 

Stop the flow of corruption and there would be plenty for school buses. There might even be enough left to educate the teachers to educate the children, who could then educate the parents.

[Grumpy John]

A lot of angry people with opinions in this thread!  Making assumptions about paying 2000 baht fine.  And thinking because Thai's drive a new pickup they have money in the bank!   For Thai's at the low end everything is bought on credit, probably nothing in the bank,  So 2000 baht is a big deal.  And assuming the kid wasn't skilled is a bit unkind.  When 10 I had to drive the tractor whilst dad rode the plow...and at 12 I was driving the pickup.  I never had a traffic accident till I was 24 and a licensed driver!  It was an accident plain and simple, unfortunately the kid died. 

[BobBKK]

And how many times do we see Police stopping 12 year olds riding around in cars and bikes?  never

[SunsetT]

19 hours ago, Chelseafan said:

I agree with you but there's no transport to get them to school other than the motorbike.

You may well say that it's up to the parents to drive them there but mum and dad are working in the fields at silly-o-clock.

I'm actually surprised that there's not more fatalities in the sticks.

 

Bicycles?

[Bangkok Barry]

19 hours ago, Chelseafan said:

I agree with you but there's no transport to get them to school other than the motorbike.

You may well say that it's up to the parents to drive them there but mum and dad are working in the fields at silly-o-clock.

I'm actually surprised that there's not more fatalities in the sticks.

 

 

I wonder how they cope then in Laos, Cambodia, Philippines, Vietnam, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, or any of dozens of other countries with poor public transport. And whose fault is the poor public transport anyway. The Thai government, who couldn't give a rat's fart about anyone outside of their circle of rich friends and who never take public transport anyway. Thailand is far, far beyond repair without a major revolution, and that is never going to happen.

And many of them anyway do have transport to take them to and from school. The problem is that it is often no less dangerous. Often even more so. Basically, there is zero concept of safety in Thailand, whichever way you turn, in whatever field. How so many people can be so stupid is impossible to understand. Common sense should dictate, but that simply doesn't exist here.

[Cereal]

So, kid drives. Kid dies. Parents guilty of murder.

 

What's the prison sentence for murder? 

 

That's what I want to know. If none is forthcoming this is naught but typical empty Thai rhetoric. 

[Chelseafan]

52 minutes ago, Grusa said:

And why does the school not have the funds? Because the principal has embezzled most of the funds, such as are left after the minister has embezzled the funds, such as are left after his Big Boss has embezzled the funds.

 

Stop the flow of corruption and there would be plenty for school buses. There might even be enough left to educate the teachers to educate the children, who could then educate the parents.

Like all things in Thailand, it's not only possible but most likely probable.

Unfortunately corruption is just a way of life, Still Prayut will sort it all out ????

[RJRS1301]

2 hours ago, saminoz said:

"Young people are just not equipped with the necessary skills to drive."

Thais are generally not  equipped with the necessary skills to live in a civilised society.

So I am hoping you do not live here, or have a Thai partner or children

 

[jvs]

15 hours ago, Chelseafan said:

Again, I'm not disagreeing but given where the kids live, there's just no way we would allow them ride pushbikes. The cars come around those bends at 50+ mph sometimes and I suspect there would be more deaths of schoolkids on the roads. I don't like motorbikes, I don't like the kids driving them either but unfortunately they are a practicality out in the provinces.

 

So how do they go to school?

 

[jvs]

2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

What parent in their right mind lets their 12 year old kid drive a pick up truck? What gives here? Where is the common sense, and desire to protect one's offspring? And where is the law enforcement? Such astonishing indifference. The police are as much to blame as the parents. 

I have sais it many times before and probably will again later,as long as 'Mai pen rai'

rules in Thailand nothing will change.