UK plans to introduce border controls on EU goods after post-Brexit transition

[CG1 Blue]

7 hours ago, bristolboy said:

If financial service companies don't have passporting  or equivalancy rights they can't offer services through the EU based financial system. Why do you think that UK financial service companies are pressing so hard to retain those rights?

Passporting is about allowing EU investors into the UK system or not. The UK will no longer be under MIFID. But I was talking about investors from outside the EU if you read back. 

[bannork]

Boris 's government all over the place.

Resignation of the Chancellor has now been followed by the resignation of the top civil servant in the Home Office,

Indeed, he will issue a claim against the Home Office for constructive dismissal.

What a shambles.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-51687287

 

 

Edited February 29, 2020 by bannork

[sanemax]

3 minutes ago, bannork said:

Boris 's government all over the place.

Resignation of the Chancellor has now been followed by the resignation of the top civil servant in the Home Office,

Indeed, he will issue a claim against the Home Office for constructive dismissal.

What a shambles.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-51687287

 

 

Its not uncommon for ministers to resign or get sacked , happens frequently 

[evadgib]

8 minutes ago, bannork said:

Boris 's government all over the place.

Resignation of the Chancellor has now been followed by the resignation of the top civil servant in the Home Office,

Indeed, he will issue a claim against the Home Office for constructive dismissal.

What a shambles.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-51687287

Getting rid of rejoiner Sir Humphries makes perfect sence IMO.

 

Statement on resignation of Sir Philip Rutnam

Edited February 29, 2020 by evadgib

[bannork]

13 minutes ago, sanemax said:

Its not uncommon for ministers to resign or get sacked , happens frequently 

It's unprecedented for the top civil servant in the Home Office to resign and then sue the government for constructive dismissal.

He was offered a lot of money to go quietly but refused.

[nauseus]

28 minutes ago, bannork said:

Boris 's government all over the place.

Resignation of the Chancellor has now been followed by the resignation of the top civil servant in the Home Office,

Indeed, he will issue a claim against the Home Office for constructive dismissal.

What a shambles.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-51687287

 

 

I don't think that was much to do with border controls. More like the CS too used to being out of control.

[nauseus]

9 minutes ago, bannork said:

It's unprecedented for the top civil servant in the Home Office to resign and then sue the government for constructive dismissal.

He was offered a lot of money to go quietly but refused.

Envelope probably wasn't brown enough.

[Loiner]

10 minutes ago, bannork said:

It's unprecedented for the top civil servant in the Home Office to resign and then sue the government for constructive dismissal.

He was offered a lot of money to go quietly but refused.

Time to get rid of Remainers wherever and whoever they may be. As a career pen pusher he was almost certainly causing problems for the elected government, so had to go.

Boris needs to rid Whitehall of many more of them too.

[david555]

1 minute ago, Loiner said:

Time to get rid of Remainers wherever and whoever they may be. As a career pen pusher he was almost certainly causing problems for the elected government, so had to go.

Boris needs to rid Whitehall of many more of them too.

More and more it looks that the E.U. is better off whiteout this kind  U.K. what Boris is transforming it in …. 

[bannork]

4 minutes ago, david555 said:

More and more it looks that the E.U. is better off whiteout this kind  U.K. what Boris is transforming it in …. 

I reckon Boris will be gone by the end of this year. Too much nonsense.

[CG1 Blue]

15 minutes ago, david555 said:

More and more it looks that the E.U. is better off whiteout this kind  U.K. what Boris is transforming it in …. 

The UK public will decide at the next general election if our government is doing the right thing by clearing out the remainers / rejoiners. Thankfully we don't have another higher level of governance (the EU bureaucrats) to concern us anymore ????

[Loiner]

26 minutes ago, david555 said:

More and more it looks that the E.U. is better off whiteout this kind  U.K. what Boris is transforming it in …. 

This is what we want. This is what we voted for. Can’t do this with EU bureaucrats, so we have Brexit. 

[david555]

15 minutes ago, bannork said:

I reckon Boris will be gone by the end of this year. Too much nonsense.

????

[david555]

14 minutes ago, CG1 Blue said:

The UK public will decide at the next general election if our government is doing the right thing by clearing out the remainers / rejoiners. Thankfully we don't have another higher level of governance (the EU bureaucrats) to concern us anymore ????

"Thankfully we don't have another higher level of governance (the EU bureaucrats) to concern us anymore"

 

 

Oh No ?

MI5 ?.....lol

Edited February 29, 2020 by david555

[evadgib]

48 minutes ago, bannork said:

It's unprecedented for the top civil servant in the Home Office to resign and then sue the government for constructive dismissal.

He was offered a lot of money to go quietly but refused.

It's more common than many realize but most are settled (not all of them win) before reaching tribunal.

[david555]

19 minutes ago, Loiner said:

This is what we want. This is what we voted for. Can’t do this with EU bureaucrats, so we have Brexit. 

"Can’t do this with EU bureaucrats,"

 

 

Must be painful to realize …..5555, but anyway nice from you to admit that hard E.U. unwelcome truth 

Edited February 29, 2020 by david555

[bannork]

2 minutes ago, evadgib said:

It's more common than many realize but most are settled (not all of them win) before reaching tribunal.

It's not looking good for Priti Patel. Lots of unpleasant and nasty stuff liable to come out in court.

Who can replace her?

Another child of immigrants whose parents wouldn't have been able to come to the UK under Johnson's government new rules. Of course! The recently resigned Chancellor, Sajid Javid.

 

 

[evadgib]

6 minutes ago, bannork said:

It's not looking good for Priti Patel. Lots of unpleasant and nasty stuff liable to come out in court.

Who can replace her?

Another child of immigrants whose parents wouldn't have been able to come to the UK under Johnson's government new rules. Of course! The recently resigned Chancellor, Sajid Javid.

Employment hearings are a lot slower that the fast tracking seen re the likes of Gina Miller. At normal speed the initial hearing will be around September & the full hearing not until next year if my own experience is anything to go by.

[Loiner]

51 minutes ago, david555 said:

"Can’t do this with EU bureaucrats,"

 

 

Must be painful to realize …..5555, but anyway nice from you to admit that hard E.U. unwelcome truth 

We realised that sometime after we were conned into joining. The painful part was 40+ years of waiting to get out of the EU. 
Now that we are out, it really doesn't matter to us any more. However, Europeans are welcome to your bureaucrats that you can't replace, whereas we can and do replace ours if they are blocking the work of the elected government.

[tomacht8]

4 hours ago, bannork said:

I reckon Boris will be gone by the end of this year. Too much nonsense.

I think you are right. The hard Brexiteers love BJ's inflated national populist speeches. Many of those affected are increasingly seeing through the BJ nonsense.

 

Meanwhile, the sectors affected by EU trade and their associations are putting increasing pressure on the UK government: SMMT warned on behalf of the car manufacturers of the "continuing uncertainty" caused by Johnson's Brexit course. Minister of Agriculture George Eustice was booed on Wednesday at the NFU farmers' meeting because he specifically refused to guarantee future subsidies. In contrast, the “Vote Leave” lobby in 2016 in the referendum fight, led by Johnson and Gove, had enticed the rural population with the idea that their situation would not deteriorate without Brussels' agricultural subsidies. NFU chief Minette Batters promised resistance to the government's “moral bankruptcy”.

 

And these are not Remainers, but disappointed Brexiteers.

 

Edited February 29, 2020 by tomacht8

[vogie]

7 hours ago, bannork said:

I reckon Boris will be gone by the end of this year. Too much nonsense.

A lot of the Glums reckoned Boris was going to be the shortest reigning PM too, that went well didn't it, your wishfull thinking won't get rid of Boris, his popularity and the Tories have never been higher.

[izod10]

At a stroke those god awful irish tinkers/travellers banished from the UK,along with 3.6 million other EU hangers on. Take your damned caravans,white vans and get to hell out of it

 No entiitlment to anything,no legal aid, no buying up farmland to turn into ghetto caravan pitches,no jobs, no welfare,no free schooling,no access to NHS,no right to anything,not even housing,its all goodbye to them

[Rookiescot]

16 hours ago, CG1 Blue said:

As I told you already, companies do not need to move to the UK to use financial services. Investors can simply redirect their investments to UK markets and financial products. 

 

But if you need an example of a global company having confidence in the City, here you go: 

 

Goldman Sachs's new £1 billion London headquarters is full of family-friendly features. The Evening Standard can reveal that the US investment bank’s European HQ in the Square Mile has a string of innovations for its 6,000 UK staff

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/revealed-new-1bn-london-hq-of-goldman-sachs-which-boasts-resting-rooms-for-tired-bankers-lactation-a4177836.html

 

Goldman Sachs was already here in London. Yes they have a lovely new headquarters.

So companies dont need to move to the UK?

So in what way will that offset the job loses already happening?

 

[tomacht8]

5 hours ago, izod10 said:

At a stroke those god awful irish tinkers/travellers banished from the UK,along with 3.6 million other EU hangers on. Take your damned caravans,white vans and get to hell out of it

 No entiitlment to anything,no legal aid, no buying up farmland to turn into ghetto caravan pitches,no jobs, no welfare,no free schooling,no access to NHS,no right to anything,not even housing,its all goodbye to them

How is the weather in Russia at your troll farm? Apparently you missed some important agreements regarding the right of residence for EU citizens in the UK and vice versa. 

Despite all the uncertainty caused by Brexit. One thing is certain: I don't want to have a hate head like you as neighbor.

[bannork]

6 hours ago, izod10 said:

At a stroke those god awful irish tinkers/travellers banished from the UK,along with 3.6 million other EU hangers on. Take your damned caravans,white vans and get to hell out of it

 No entiitlment to anything,no legal aid, no buying up farmland to turn into ghetto caravan pitches,no jobs, no welfare,no free schooling,no access to NHS,no right to anything,not even housing,its all goodbye to them

Anyone living in the UK who has either Irish parents or grandparents is entitled to an Irish passport, as well as the British one.

Almost a million Irish passports were issued in 2019, Dublin has revealed. The record total was hit because of a surge in applicants from the UK.

Connemara, one of the most beautiful spots on this earth, on a sunny day!

 

Edited March 1, 2020 by bannork

[Nigel Garvie]

1 hour ago, bannork said:

Anyone living in the UK who has either Irish parents or grandparents is entitled to an Irish passport, as well as the British one.

Almost a million Irish passports were issued in 2019, Dublin has revealed. The record total was hit because of a surge in applicants from the UK.

Connemara, one of the most beautiful spots on this earth, on a sunny day!

 

Yes my nieces have them already, lucky girls.

Even for someone who spent their teens living in Kintail and Strathpeffer I have to admit that is a fine view. We got sunshine occasionally as well!

[Loiner]

5 hours ago, bannork said:

Anyone living in the UK who has either Irish parents or grandparents is entitled to an Irish passport, as well as the British one.

Almost a million Irish passports were issued in 2019, Dublin has revealed. The record total was hit because of a surge in applicants from the UK.

It's all very well those Remainers rushing for an Irish EU passport. But what has it done for them? Nothing.
Where are they all now? Exactly where they were pre-Brexit.

If life is so good in the EU states why haven't all those new paddies rushed off to Connemara or some of the other countries their freedom of movement guarantees them? No answer necessary.

[TheDark]

1 minute ago, Loiner said:

It's all very well those Remainers rushing for an Irish EU passport. But what has it done for them? Nothing.
Where are they all now? Exactly where they were pre-Brexit.

If life is so good in the EU states why haven't all those new paddies rushed off to Connemara or some of the other countries their freedom of movement guarantees them? No answer necessary.

EU has given them choices and freedoms. 

 

Perhaps they don't rush to move to live and work or pensionate in another EU country, but at least they can keep the choice and freedom to do so. 

 

Sounds like a good deal to me. 

[bannork]

19 minutes ago, Loiner said:

It's all very well those Remainers rushing for an Irish EU passport. But what has it done for them? Nothing.
Where are they all now? Exactly where they were pre-Brexit.

If life is so good in the EU states why haven't all those new paddies rushed off to Connemara or some of the other countries their freedom of movement guarantees them? No answer necessary.

They're waiting for the proverbial to hit the fan in the UK if there's a no deal Brexit.

[izod10]

38 minutes ago, TheDark said:

EU has given them choices and freedoms. 

 

Perhaps they don't rush to move to live and work or pensionate in another EU country, but at least they can keep the choice and freedom to do so. 

 

Sounds like a good deal to me. 

It sounds to me that the bulk of them do not have a UK passport,but hoping against hope that when the break finally comes in 9 months that they can hang on in UK,covered by eu s rules and regulations  Reported today Boris is not signing up to eu human rights agenda either.  Boris (as reported) wants 3.6 million ousted from UK.  There will be more than that leaving when realisation takes hold. No bank account,no rental/owning property any financial transaction voided